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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
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chaotic646 said:
Not saying its the right way, but just wanted to point out Ive been using this tek but skipping the simmering step for the last couple months and haven't had any problems. My WBS has plenty of moisture just from the 24 hour soak, and my colonization times haven't suffered at all.


That works if you don't end up with wet grains. The main reason to simmer is so the excess water can "steam" off the grains in the strainer. There is only so much that will drip off on its own.

A 5-10 minute simmer can also puff your grains up a bit, these colonize better IMO. But you risk bursting a lot of grains and releasing starches if you are not careful. Millet is especially prone to bursting quickly under a rolling boil.

If it is working for you, by all means continue on :wink:

I just prefer a simmer myself.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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That's why I stopped, because no matter how "short" I simmered, and how much I stirred, the bottom of the pot always had a bunch of gooey popped grains. I leave my lids loose when I pressure cook too, maybe the excess moisture is steaming out then? Not sure but everything is working great.

How is that gym you found growing on the door coming along? Have you tried to grow it out yet?

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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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I just started my first WBS soak today. I'm converting from rye berries.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: SpitballJedi]
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:bananadance:

You're gonna love it.

As to where I am...it's almost time to head home for Frank.

But I'm hesitant to leave until harvest time has past :volcano:


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Read through the thread and saw the quick discussion about the plastic lids. The plastic lids I use do not create an airtight seal with the jar, and this inlet/outlet of unfiltered air has kept me from using them on my WBS jars.

Do you have the same non-gasket lids, or are your lids air/water tight?

And is this air exchange so negligible that it's not something I should worry about in regards to contaminations during colonization?

I use SFD for GE and injectable rubber stoppers for injecting spores. I have plastic lids on my LC's and only because they have a separate rubber gasket under the plastic lid to create that seal. Looking to use more plastic lids without the use of a gasket. If you have time to get back to me I would appreciate it. Just recently switched from rye grain to WBS and wish I would have sooner. Awesome write-up, thanks for spreading the knowledge.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: BL00MERS]
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:thanx:

I tried rubber gaskets once, hated them :shake:

I've never, ever had an issue with using the plastic lids with no gasket. This is for grains and LC.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Thanks for the input, Frank

I am also not a fan of those gasket and can finally make the box of plastic lids in the garage useful.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: BL00MERS]
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I have a box like that :wink:



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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Thank you FrankY!  :asianofapproval:
I'm thinking of just running under my faucet on high that water is well over 150F .


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Edited by mister brown 420 (01/15/14 10:35 PM)

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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: mister brown 420]
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mister brown 420 said:
Thank you franks!  :asianofapproval:
I'm thinking of just running under my faucet mon high that water is well over 150F .


To get them steaming after the soak?

You'll rinse all your gypsum off and they won't heat very evenly (at all). Bring it to a simmer :wink:


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Yea I didn't acquire gypsum until after they were already soaking...
But I will just simmer them I'm scared of bursting them.. :lol: :windowtantrum:


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: mister brown 420]
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Why? They don't burst unless you boil them.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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Alright I'll admit its all the horror stories I've read, I don't want bird seed oatmeal.. I just switched to birdseed from popcorn.

Ill quit being a puss :lol:


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: mister brown 420]
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Will adding the gypsum now do any thing?:mygoditsfullofstars:

P.S. It wasn't my choice on not getting Gypsum until today just for the record! :godfuckingdammit: Shitty service at hardware store :oldman2:


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Edited by mister brown 420 (01/15/14 10:38 PM)

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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: mister brown 420]
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Oh yeah, just add it before you simmer. You'll be stirring a few times anyhow, it'll all break up just fine.

Bring it to a simmer, where it's starting to bubble regularly and there's a decent amount of steam. Then dump and strain and shake it up a couple times while it's steaming.

It'll be fine, I promise :wink:


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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2 Tbs For 8.5 cups wbs?


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: mister brown 420]
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Bah, just grab a big handful and toss it in :thumbup:

I haven't measured gypsum in over a year.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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lol I like your style


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: mister brown 420]
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:smilingpuppy:

Gypsum is pretty easy to work with, you don't need a whole lot (a handful is perfect) but if you use too much, it won't hurt anything.

Pot of grains? Handful of gypsum.
Brick of coir? Handful of gypsum.
Bag of casing material? You guessed it, handful of gypsum.


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Re: Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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I added it! I went until I saw a ring of simmer sized bubbles!  Unfortunately the gypsum was like a gritty paste on the bottom of the pan :lol:


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