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Fesperse
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18239824 - 05/09/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: I find that I can stuff those holes pretty damn tight. I back off a little. If you have condensation on the walls, then a dry ring around the polly is a good sign of FAE.
See, that's the thing. I do have the dry rings around my poly holes but there are still some pins that have the aerial myc. I've now taken all the polyfill out of one of the top holes so waiting to see how that goes.
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MastaBlastar
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: Fesperse]
#18240801 - 05/09/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fesperse said:
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SpitballJedi said: I find that I can stuff those holes pretty damn tight. I back off a little. If you have condensation on the walls, then a dry ring around the polly is a good sign of FAE.
See, that's the thing. I do have the dry rings around my poly holes but there are still some pins that have the aerial myc. I've now taken all the polyfill out of one of the top holes so waiting to see how that goes.
Are you not worried about contaminates?
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: MastaBlastar]
#18240826 - 05/09/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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frank knows whats up. keep that pfill loose
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Fesperse
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: MastaBlastar]
#18240891 - 05/09/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: I find that I can stuff those holes pretty damn tight. I back off a little. If you have condensation on the walls, then a dry ring around the polly is a good sign of FAE.
See, that's the thing. I do have the dry rings around my poly holes but there are still some pins that have the aerial myc. I've now taken all the polyfill out of one of the top holes so waiting to see how that goes.
Are you not worried about contaminates?
Not particularly. It's fully colonized and on the first flush. Frank says he fruits with one hole open sometimes as well and likes his results.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: Fesperse]
#18240925 - 05/09/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like you know what you're doing bud. let us know how it works.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: Fesperse]
#18242051 - 05/10/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fesperse said: Hey Frank, have a tub going right now and stuffed the bottom holes tightly as per this thread. Top holes are very loose. The box still doesn't seem to be getting the right FAE. There is an oscillating fan in the room and a ceiling fan. It's definitely not too dry, I can see water droplets on the sub and myc. There are a few pins that look a little stretchy and a few pins with the fuzzy myc feet.
Any advice on this? There's plenty of airflow in my room. Also, there is a somewhat fluffy chair that sits on top of my box (it applies the same weight another mono on top of this one might). If this changes how you're supposed to stuff the poly, i'd love to hear some tricks.
It sounds like you should give it some time, sometimes what you describe can be caused by genetics. I stuff the bottom as tight as possible. You should never need to back off or loosen them up. You want your RH as high as possible at the surface of the substrate. I get the best results when I stuff them as tight as possible.
I would not worry about putting weight on the top of the tub. That'll increase your FAE a bit as well. However keep in mind that tiny droplets all over the surface is a good sign as is the condensation on the walls.
Basically like SJ said above, I only mess with the top. Take one hole out if you'd like to try it. But you can generally get amazing results with loose on both top holes, tight as hell on the bottom
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18244808 - 05/10/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: It sounds like you should give it some time, sometimes what you describe can be caused by genetics. I stuff the bottom as tight as possible. You should never need to back off or loosen them up. You want your RH as high as possible at the surface of the substrate. I get the best results when I stuff them as tight as possible.
I would not worry about putting weight on the top of the tub. That'll increase your FAE a bit as well. However keep in mind that tiny droplets all over the surface is a good sign as is the condensation on the walls.
Basically like SJ said above, I only mess with the top. Take one hole out if you'd like to try it. But you can generally get amazing results with loose on both top holes, tight as hell on the bottom
Well watching it today, more of the small fruitbodies started getting the fuzzy myc growth at the base of them. There isn't much condensation on the inside of my tub. Not really sure what this means as I thought that was just a temperature differential between the inside and outside of the tub. Would the sub being too dry cause the fruitbodies to grow mycelium at the base? Other than that, they seem to be growing fine. Many, many tiny pins keep popping up and no fruitbodies seem to be aborting. I can upload pictures if that might help at all?
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: Fesperse]
#18250485 - 05/11/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Upload some pics but I think you're overthinking it
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18283072 - 05/18/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Frank,
Do you use a light for the tubs or just a normal room light? Also, what point in the process are you providing light? 12/12?
thanks
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: Bangkok]
#18283167 - 05/18/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm definitely going to utilize this method when I prepare my monotubs, great post.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: Bangkok]
#18289760 - 05/19/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bangkok said: Frank,
Do you use a light for the tubs or just a normal room light? Also, what point in the process are you providing light? 12/12?
thanks
I used my ceiling light fixture for years, just two 13w 6500k (daylight) CFLs.
Light is provided when the tubs are fruited. I colonize them under a warm, thick blanket that lets little if any light through. When they are fruited, then they get the 12/12 light cycle.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18337881 - 05/29/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Added a couple new pics to show what ideal airflow looks like on the walls of the monotub
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18371955 - 06/05/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I colonize them under a warm, thick blanket that lets little if any light through.
Hei mate
Thanks for a great thread. I wanted to ask why you colonize in total darkness. As i understand colonization is faster when light is introduced..
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ [Re: forestly]
#18371963 - 06/05/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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forestly said:
Thanks for a great thread. I wanted to ask why you colonize in total darkness. As i understand colonization is faster when light is introduced..
If it is, I haven't noticed it in my last 100 tubs
I have noticed that colonization is faster when the heat the tubs produce is insulated a little bit with the blanket. Colonization time sits around 4-6 days for me now
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MastaBlastar
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18417849 - 06/14/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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When you are selecting tubs, do you go for taller tubs, or shorter tubs with a longer length and width.
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: MastaBlastar]
#18417899 - 06/14/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I go for tall, rectangular and 60-100qts
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MastaBlastar
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18418924 - 06/14/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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OK. I was more thinking along the lines of say you have 2 70 qt tubs, one taller and shorter lengthwise, and other shorter and longer lengthwise, you would pick the taller one?
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18418946 - 06/14/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just wanted to thank you for your work frank. I've been reading over your stuff since i joined back after several years. I used this gem actually as part of my first grow. Come check it out soon I'm only a week or less away from spawning to bulk. Thanks again
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: UltimateAnswer]
#18419260 - 06/14/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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MastaBlastar said: OK. I was more thinking along the lines of say you have 2 70 qt tubs, one taller and shorter lengthwise, and other shorter and longer lengthwise, you would pick the taller one?
I would go with the taller one
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UltimateAnswer said: Just wanted to thank you for your work frank. I've been reading over your stuff since i joined back after several years. I used this gem actually as part of my first grow. Come check it out soon I'm only a week or less away from spawning to bulk. Thanks again
I'm glad to hear it has worked well for you!
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Re: How to dial in your monotubs like a champ *DELETED* [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18434672 - 06/17/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Frank, awesome guide! Thank you for all of them actually!
I followed this guide as best as I can. I followed your instruction for the top hole, and just packed the bottom one as tight as I possibly could.
This is what I ended up with:
A little bit hard to see... sorry. But it's got a ring around the top hole and connects to the ring around the bottom one.
Does that look ok or am I looking for more of an evaporation trail?
Also, I noticed that your tub has 2 holes on each long side, and then one top (FAE) hole each on the short sides (from what I can see anyway).
Your set up? Mine ---O-------O--- -------O------- | | | | O O OO OO | | | | ---O-------O--- -------O-------
I have one bottom hole on each side, and the short sides have a top and lower holes. Is this ok or does this have a negative effect on air flow in the tub?
Edited by cave (06/17/13 11:16 PM)
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