Prisoner#1 said:

Patlal said:

Ojom said:

Patlal said:

Actually, its illegal to discriminate against drug users or ex-addicts.

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Ohh right.... That is why pre-employment drug testing is illegal. It is not illegal to discriminate against drug users. It is actually government mandated in the United States that drug users not be allowed to do certain work, and governmentally encouraged that drug users be denied employment.

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In the US its not illegal, where I'm from it is.

We don't have any interest denying jobs to addicts. It would only increase crime and result in them going to jail. That wouldn't be fair.

Therefore, its illegal to discriminate against drug users.

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with the US it's not a government interest, it's an insurance one. insurance
companies dont want to ensure for any liability, any company that hires drug
users which is why the tests are mandatory in many places, other pay the
higher premiums and dodge the testing because they know many of their
applicants and even best workers use drugs. the real drawback at least for
the user is that if you get hurt, they'll test you for workers comp and it
may not pay

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zappaisgod said:

If there's no record of you being a junkie then there should be no problem.  That said you have to do well for two semesters of chemistry, two semesters of organic chemistry, two semesters of calculus, and some biology and physics, among other things.  Then get into pharmacy school and get through that.  Good fucking luck

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This is actually kinda the track I'm on right now... ideally I want to do brain research, but it was the idea of pharmaceutical research or failing that, simply working with drugs that initially got me interested.

I never took school seriously before a couple years ago, but I'm now working on calculus 2 and organic chemistry 1. Not the weak shit, the real shit. It's intense, but surprisingly fun.

You should go for it if you're interested, ellen. There are plenty of practical applications and different paths available after mastering the essential sciences, and science is kinda better than drugs in the end anyway.

purelycontradictin said:

testing sort of puts drug users in check.
All the idiots wont be a danger to others since they dont wanna lose the job, and if they fail for something they DO lose it. no jobs really test for shrooms or acid, and dmt is untestable pretty much, so just stick with those or mescaline/rc's if you'd want.

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Ojom said:

purelycontradictin said:

testing sort of puts drug users in check.
All the idiots wont be a danger to others since they dont wanna lose the job, and if they fail for something they DO lose it. no jobs really test for shrooms or acid, and dmt is untestable pretty much, so just stick with those or mescaline/rc's if you'd want.

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Drug testing in my opinion largely unfairly targets cannabis and cocaine users. Opiate addicts can get prescriptions for many of their drugs of choice and get off scott free from drug tests. I'm not sure how specific amphetamine tests are but a prescription for ritalin or adderall might be able exempt meth addicts from positive tests. While cocaine is schedule two I don't think anyone is going to be able to show a prescription for that to get out of a positive drug test for cocaine, and even in states where medical marijuana is legal many places still consider a positive drug test for cannabis with a doctors recommendation grounds for disciplinary action. If this was truly about safety these exemptions for prescriptions wouldn't exist. Just because a doctor prescribes you oxy for your herniated disk doesn't mean your opiated ass is any less of a danger than someone who took some oxy for fun.

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