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What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college?
    #2565347 - 04/15/04 06:59 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

how many years college do u need to take and how much money do you make if you are a pharmacist? it is pretty interesting to me and seems pretty damn easy. And not just because it deals with drugs or nothing since i pretty much dont do drugs (i drink once or twice a week and use marijuana on the weekends)

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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Live406]
    #2565361 - 04/15/04 07:02 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I think it's like 17 years or so.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Live406]
    #2565379 - 04/15/04 07:05 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

6-8 years depending on the type of degree(you can get a pharm D).
They make decent money, but most tell me it's a boring job.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565395 - 04/15/04 07:07 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Are you sure it's not 17 years China?


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565416 - 04/15/04 07:11 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

17 years of school? I don't know of any degree that requires that amount of schooling. You can be a pharmacologist in 8-9 years which is above a pharmacist.
At Purdue were I got my undergrad degree(psychology) there pharmacy program is 6 years I think. Its one of the top pahrmacology schools.

Heres a little general info
http://www.pharmacyandyou.org/education/pharmed.html


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565437 - 04/15/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

That dam little voice in my head did it to me again :wink:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565470 - 04/15/04 07:18 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

It took my dad about 10 yrs but he had 4 kids and my grandma to support...My mom was making a small amt of money as a secretary to help. He also worked a full time job so i have a lot of respect for my dad. I think the worst part of the job is all the longass hours on your feet....it used to kill me back when i was a teenager.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565477 - 04/15/04 07:20 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

:grin:
If you go to school for 17 years you better make about 10 million dollars a year . Imagine the student loan amount for 17 years of school. :tongue: :tongue:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: OldSpice]
    #2565514 - 04/15/04 07:26 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah if you go full time it takes about 6 year. My pharmacist is still in her 20's. She's single and pretty also. Too bad i'm married, old, burnt and have kids. :tongue:

When I first started at Purdue I was a pharmacology major. I was going to be a psychopharmacologist. I settled for psychology/pre-med.

Most of my friends from Purdue that became pharmacist complain that they go through all that schooling and gain all that knowlege and they spend 90% of there time counting pills. They pray for people to ask questions so they can put their knowlege to use.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565532 - 04/15/04 07:29 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I believe the starting salary is over 90K based on a news story that recently spoke about the shortage of pharmacists.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565553 - 04/15/04 07:32 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Thats decent money. :thumbup:
Mabye i'll give my wife the boot and hook up with my pharmacist.
I can sit at home and eat pills all day. j/k


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565558 - 04/15/04 07:34 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

hehe....but I keep thinking about the guy in the local CVS that fills my Rx's he's there till 9:30 almost every night.....long ass hours.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565586 - 04/15/04 07:40 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Most work 12 hr shifts also..lemme tell ya the last 4 hrs creeps by


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565594 - 04/15/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah plus pharmacys are open 7 days a week. The nice thing about clinical psychology is you make100k+ and only work bankers hours. I look forward to working. It's wierd that i'll be over 40 when I get my first job(legal that is). :wexican:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565616 - 04/15/04 07:47 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

So as a clinical psychologist will you be able to write scripts?


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565661 - 04/15/04 07:58 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Nope.
Well in some states their is a trial going on letting C. Psychologists prescribe certian meds. Theres a push to get prescription rights for clinical psycologists in the US. It would work kind of like a nurse practitioner. Lord nows we take enough pharmacology and medical classes, that and 9 years of school. If it does happen we'll just be able to precribe certian meds like antidepressents, Benzo's, amphetamines and other meds related to metal health.

As it is now most C. psychologists work close with a doctor and if they want somebody on a med they just call the doctor who calls in the script. I did a internship at a mental health clinic a couple years ago and the psychologist there would give the MD who worked there a list of names and meds and the MD would just call them all in.

I'm interested in working in psychedelic research/therapy, though so prescription rights are not realy important for me.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565686 - 04/15/04 08:04 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

It only makes sense that with all those years of education you would be able to prescribe MAOI's, SSRI's, Benzo's, and the drugs commonly used to treat mental health issues. you wouldn't be dealing with high blood pressure or other common medical issues in your line of work anyway.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Ripple]
    #2565697 - 04/15/04 08:09 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Yes it would make sense. In the states doing the trial the clinical psychologists are doing like a extra year of school so they can learn to spot any health problems that could be complicated by the meds. Its funny cause we already learn most of that stuff. In fact the pharmacology class i'm in now is 3/4 med students and the rest clinical psychology students.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565704 - 04/15/04 08:11 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I'm a psychology undergrad right now.  And I want to get my Masters so I can practice at a counseling level, but I think my grades aren't good enough.  I'm probably going to graduate with a 3.0  Chinacat, do you think that's good enough to make it into a Masters program?  I had a 1360 SAT so I think the GRE won't be too hard at all.  I'm really worried that I won't be able to do anything with my BA in psych and it is stressing me out quite a bit.. :sad:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565710 - 04/15/04 08:13 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

It also would save the patients money. Instead of having to pay a psychologist and a doctor. Alot of times if a psychologist puts a patient on a med the doctor charges them 40 or 50 bucks and never see's them. :thumbdown:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565824 - 04/15/04 08:48 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Chinacat know anything more to the tune of obtaining a degree in pharmaceutical chemistry and the following jobs one would get?

Any of those friends you know obtain a degree and end up working for a pharmaceutical company?


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: d33p]
    #2565857 - 04/15/04 08:58 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

You need a PhD which requires 8 years. Biochemist's and psychopharmocolgist's all work closley together. Purdue is one of the top schools fo that whole pharmacology/neuroscience field. First you need to get a BS then work your way through grad school. If your interested I would suggest to start talking to people in the field and checking out schools. It is very important to do very well in your undergrad BS degree. You need to stand out as a very good student to get into a PhD program. I had to work my ass off to get into one. You need a very high GPA, plus research assistant experiance, plus internship experiance and any other perks that make you stand out.

If your interested go for it. The whole psychology/pharmacology/neuroscience field is exploding. The human mind is mans final frontier. :sun:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2565888 - 04/15/04 09:07 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Chinacat what do you think about University of the Sciences in Philadelphia if you know anything and how it compares with purdue?


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much coll [Re: bert]
    #2565903 - 04/15/04 09:16 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Bert-
You should be fine if you apply to a decent number of schools.
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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: bert]
    #2566050 - 04/15/04 10:09 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

As stated above just apply to as many schools as possible. Counsling masters are usually one of the easier graduate programs to get into becuase of the need for counslers. They realize that you'll be stoping at your masters. Plus there is alot more masters programs overall since counsling is a big part of psychology. Apply everywere you can. If you don't get accepted you can find out what you need to do to increae your chances. Alot of times you can start taking graduate level courses without being in a graduate program. If you do that and do well you'll get accepted. Also if you work or do a internship at a mental health clinic it helps.

You'll be fine, just keep at it. :thumbup: :smile:


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2566209 - 04/15/04 11:12 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the encouraging words. I'm going to talk to my advisor tomorrow and try to sign up for a lab assistant position in the fall. I need to get cracking if I want to make this happen.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: chinacat72]
    #2566538 - 04/16/04 02:44 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Damn, Indiana has alot going for it.  Eli-Lilly is based there.  Before there was an EPA, all of downtown smelt like paint thinner.  But even with all that acid being made there, Owsley blue was the most common in southern Indiana. 

I knew Purdue had a good engineering program, but I didn't know that about their pharm program.  Oh, and go Hoosiers!  Sorry China, but with a basketball coach like Bobby Knight, how can you not like IU?  Plus, that movie cutters is cool.  Boilermakers are OK, I guess :tongue:

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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #2566746 - 04/16/04 06:11 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I'm no longer in Indiana. I just wanted to go to Purdue so I was there during my undergrad years. As for the Eli Lilly acid I can almost cry thinking about how they destoyed it. For those that don't know in the 50-60's the CIA contracted Eli Lilly to learn away to make LSD for their biological programs. Eli Lilly made tns of LSD crystal. Probably more then ever made in the rest of the world combined times 3. It was all destoyed years later. Pound after pound of LSD crystal destoyed.

Yes Purdue is famous for engineering and pharmacology. Some of NASA's top scientists are Purdue grads in engineering. There pharmacology department is very impressive. I went there becuase I wanted to study under Dr. Nichols who has a full research lab working on the neurophysiology of psychedelics.


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: bert]
    #2566752 - 04/16/04 06:21 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks for the encouraging words.  I'm going to talk to my advisor tomorrow and try to sign up for a lab assistant position in the fall.  I need to get cracking if I want to make this happen.




Smart man. I thought you already graduated. Yes if you can get into research thats a huge bonus.HUGE!!. When I was getting into a PhD program they were more interested in our research experiance and all the other little things we did that made us stand out. I had a 3.6GPA, but my research Assistant experiance helped me just as much.

Alot of times your research will be boring becuase you'll be a assistant. You'll complille data and do statistics. Run experiments over, and over. But it pays off.
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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much coll [Re: Live406]
    #2568351 - 04/16/04 03:24 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

about a year ago when i was checking out jobs on the internet, they had quite a few openings for pharmacist at the grocery store, theier starting salary was 70k. and it got me thinking "hey, i could do that" so then i looked up how much schooling and whatnot, and it was hella expensive.

some of the pharmasist that work for hospitals have to do all the research on the pills and recomend to the dr's what to try, and basicaly do thier own studies on people. and they really have to deal with all the BS drug dealers that try to bring thier shit to the hospital...


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Re: What kind of money do pharmacists make and How much college? [Re: d33p]
    #2569182 - 04/16/04 07:28 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

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Chinacat know anything more to the tune of obtaining a degree in pharmaceutical chemistry and the following jobs one would get?

Any of those friends you know obtain a degree and end up working for a pharmaceutical company?




I have a chemistry degree and I'm currently finishing my honours in medicinal/pharmaceutical chemistry. I'm consider going to graduate school to study pharmacology, pharmacy or toxicology.

Getting a job in pharm chem, if you had a masters, would probably get you a job for a pharm company. If you have an undergrad degree, from what I understand, most pharm chems aren't interested. For a pharmaceutical chemist there are a lot of options.

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