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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: the human abstract]
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This is far beyond most any comprehension. A country that left the gulf(Louisiana) in a flood with no help! Yet they, or we or whatever is elsewhere fighting for freedom or what many like to call democracy... Really? I would rather live in a Cherokee tribe type of society..:ganja:


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Poid]
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I wouldn't leave my kids and cat inside my home while it's being bombed..but if I happened to, just by chance, then I would still pay for the job they did because it's not their fault that I made the retarded mistake of leaving my loved ones inside my house while it's being bombed for bugs.


What if your home is your country, and you cannot flee it because you are poor and Shock & Awe is going on? What if the exterminators are the same guys who shook a jar of roaches through your mail slot to begin with?

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Ah, so Saddam wasn't his own mess?


Saddam was a sociopath, one which you armed and helped into power as a counterforce to Iran.

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Oh yeah, send in 50 snipers for one target in an area littered by random suicide bombers, and enemy snipers as well. That's a genius way to try to curb the death toll on our side. :thumbup:



Thats the beauty of it: there were NO suicide boimbers in Iraq. Zero. They are a consequence of the anarchy you created. And the only snipers were part of Saddam's military.

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The minor collateral damage?


:lolwut:

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Um, we guided the country out of their civil war. We want money for that, too.


There was no civil war. That was your mess too.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Asante]
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sko0bydo0 said:
I would rather live in a Cherokee tribe type of society..:ganja:

Go move to one of the many failed/failing hippie communes. :thumbup:



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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
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BTW, They call it America, yet all of history had no record of what everyone calls america till a few hundred years ago.... Hmmmmm???? Yea , you fill in the blanks..


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
sko0bydo0 said:
I would rather live in a Cherokee tribe type of society..:ganja:

Go move to one of the many failed/failing hippie communes. :thumbup:




p.s. i am :jah: kinda lonley here but not very complicated. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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I wouldn't leave my kids and cat inside my home while it's being bombed..but if I happened to, just by chance, then I would still pay for the job they did because it's not their fault that I made the retarded mistake of leaving my loved ones inside my house while it's being bombed for bugs.


What if your home is your country, and you cannot flee it because you are poor and Shock & Awe is going on? What if the exterminators are the same guys who shook a jar of roaches through your mail slot to begin with?

Well that's not the case here.


Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Ah, so Saddam wasn't his own mess?


Saddam was a sociopath, one which you armed and helped into power as a counterforce to Iran.

Ah, so because Saddam was a sociopath, this means he wasn't his own mess?


Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Oh yeah, send in 50 snipers for one target in an area littered by random suicide bombers, and enemy snipers as well. That's a genius way to try to curb the death toll on our side. :thumbup:



Thats the beauty of it: there were NO suicide boimbers in Iraq. Zero. They are a consequence of the anarchy you created. And the only snipers were part of Saddam's military.

Source please.


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The minor collateral damage?


:lolwut:

I'd like to see some figures which show that the lives lost in US-caused collateral damage outnumbered the potential loss of life that would've ensued had the US not acted.


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Um, we guided the country out of their civil war. We want money for that, too.


There was no civil war. That was your mess too.

No, there was no civil war, but there was a theocratic dictatorship. And when we helped topple that large pile of shit, we helped out in the ensuing civil war..is it really our fault that those people (Iraqi civilians) are so fucking violent, even amongst themselves? Stop with this bleeding-heart shit, it's clouding your objective judgment.

:spock:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Edited by Poid (06/11/11 07:47 AM)

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
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sko0bydo0 said:
Poid said:
sko0bydo0 said:
I would rather live in a Cherokee tribe type of society..:ganja:

Go move to one of the many failed/failing hippie communes. :thumbup:




p.s. i am :jah: kinda lonley here but not very complicated. :cookiemonster:

Aww, Rooby-Roo ris ronery? :crying:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
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Hmmm, :ganja:


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0] * 4
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Poid; your unwavering bias has seemingly driven you to insanity.

It really seems like you are making excuses without honestly considering what wiccan is saying.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
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:holyshit:



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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Poid; your unwavering bias has seemingly driven you to insanity.

:rofl2:


Shins said:
It really seems like you are making excuses without honestly considering what wiccan is saying.

Yeah thanks for the commentary, some examples would be nice however.


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
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What is the Wiccan saying?


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
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No disrespect, just think im lost in a conversation maybe i should roll out of..


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
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i like money and hospitals, though many foilers believe we should abandon everything i love having hospitals and :ilovemymeds:

ie mayans would chase the sick into the woods.


americans all arent as stupid as you think too, i think its stupid that poid doesnt think americans didnt plan to make money before dropping bombs.. i believe that there needed to be change in iraq but we shouldnt have been involved with dept up to our eyes


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
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sko0bydo0 said:
What is the Wiccan saying?

That it's our fault that a country full of a bunch of retarded religious dickheaded freaks broke out in a full-fledged civil war as a result of losing its oppressive theocratic fascist government.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: the human abstract]
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the human abstract said:
...i think its stupid that poid doesnt think americans didnt plan to make money before dropping bombs.

I think it's stupid that you made this assumption..of course we knowingly stood to directly benefit from our presence in the Middle East (financially or otherwise). Nothing I stated contradicts this in the least.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: the human abstract]
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hes also saying that this threads topic is bullshit.

at least thats what i got. sorry i dont wanna put words in your mouth wicca


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
the human abstract said:
...i think its stupid that poid doesnt think americans didnt plan to make money before dropping bombs.

I think it's stupid that you made this assumption..of course we knowingly stood to directly benefit from our presence in the Middle East (financially or otherwise). Nothing I stated contradicts this in the least.


:facepalm:

ok poid


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
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Wow, i really shouldnt be in this convo. No one has a right to go into any tribe or culture and force change.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: the human abstract]
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Glad I could get some stimulating discussion out of you. :thumbup:


So, are you able to point out where I said anything which shows your assumption to be correct? I really don't think so, but perhaps you'll surprise me. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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