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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14600517 - 06/12/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Lol, you are still hung up on the Iraq-al Qaeda claims that even Bush himself admitted were false circa 2006, & which the Pentagon concluded in a review of thousands of captured documents & interviews with former Iraq government officials.. you are truly hopeless & a mindless believer in the U.S. militarism, willing to swallow the most absurd lies that have long been discredited.



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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14600528 - 06/12/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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EntheogenicPeace said:
Lol, you are still hung up on the Iraq-al Qaeda claims that even Bush himself admitted were false circa 2006, & which the Pentagon concluded in a review of thousands of captured documents & interviews with former Iraq government officials.. you are truly hopeless & a mindless believer in the U.S. militarism, willing to swallow the most absurd lies that have long been discredited.





I never mentioned al qaeda


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14600548 - 06/12/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

See that fine line in the grass? Either its a claymore wire or the thin line between stating passionate opinion and flaming/trolling. Mind your step!


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14600640 - 06/12/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14600712 - 06/12/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

maybe you'd be pleased to know that the Bush Administration isnt the only
ones that were talking about Iraq's state sponsored terrorism, you seem to
believe this is exclusive to him when it's been going on for some time



http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/980302/archive_003360.htm
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_93/statespon.html#Iraq
http://www.state.gov/www/global/terrorism/1996Report/overview.html
http://www.state.gov/www/global/terrorism/1999report/sponsor.html#Iraq


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid] * 4
    #14600833 - 06/12/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This is akin to me driving to your house, burning the place down, killing your family and pets, and then demand you pay me for the gas money I spent and the time I wasted taking off work.

A.k.a fucking retarded


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shroomism]
    #14600958 - 06/12/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

no it's not. yours is an anti-government/war perspective

we trained their police and military to handle the insurgents yet we're still there doing the police work


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14601664 - 06/12/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991): Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Sr. mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait. "

"Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003-: later known with less irony as Operation Iraqi Freedom The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the US with wmd's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them has been made. Since no wmd's were found, and after the Iraqi also scrapped some 800 long range Scud style missiles before the US coalition attack, the reason for the invasion was changed into "bringing the democracy into Iraq"."


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14602017 - 06/12/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It is still racism if he is targeting a contained group of lineages. 





you mean like the jews that you're so eager to target in your anti semitic rants

does this mean you'll hit the notify mod button everyone mentions a nationality in a derogatory way?





Yes i made one thread about the inherent racism / superiority etc. of Talmudic Judaism.  But the difference is that I did not call jews names and in any way insinuate they are inferior.

"Zionism" is a political ideology held by people of all colors.

And again, i never insinuate Zionists are racially inferior,  I just simply put that ideology in practice under scrutiny.



It's not racist to say something like; "why do Chinese people often eat rice?"  "I personally don't like rice; here's why."


PS: Learn the real meaning of Semitic.


Anyways i'm over this, time to drop it and let the thread go on. 


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14602093 - 06/12/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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no it's not. yours is an anti-government/war perspective

we trained their police and military to handle the insurgents yet we're still there doing the police work




You mean the ones who torture and kill prisoners and civilians while the american military turns a blind eye towards there actions?


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #14602478 - 06/12/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If the US, France and Britain didn't break up the Ottoman Empire into a bunch of Nation States after WWI and redraw the borders in such a way that they contained a bunch of different ethnic groups that were bound clash with one another they wouldn't have had to deal with Saddam in the first place (I believe I've said this on these forums before).

Even if Iraq was forced to pay reprimands, though, it won't make a difference. The allied powers tried that with Germany after WWI and all it did was make a bunch of people poor and angry to the point where a massive holocaust actually sounded like a good idea. Plus, judging by the fact that America and Europe are in the midst of an economic depression comparable to that era, it could be the same story all over again.

It might make rational sense to make a country pay reprimands but historically, AFAIK, it hasn't really fared well for either party. The country paying the reprimands usually ends up unstable and the country receiving the reprimands sacrifices a well-established trade partnership as a result.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14602518 - 06/12/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How about we stop trying to police the fucking globe against their will and use our military for what they are for - home defense - and save that 150 quadtrillion dollars a year.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shroomism]
    #14602561 - 06/12/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
How about we stop trying to police the fucking globe against their will and use our military for what they are for - home defense - and save that 150 quadtrillion dollars a year.




But then the global banking cartel could not use us to try to take over the world.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: misterogerz]
    #14603479 - 06/12/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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"Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991): Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Sr. mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait. "

"Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003-: later known with less irony as Operation Iraqi Freedom The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the US with wmd's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them has been made. Since no wmd's were found, and after the Iraqi also scrapped some 800 long range Scud style missiles before the US coalition attack, the reason for the invasion was changed into "bringing the democracy into Iraq"."




you should really cite your sources because this one is quite biased and seems to have omitted quite a bit

http://www.911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html

what exactly did Iraq ask for help on from the US? oh yes, they wanted the
US to give them money to rebuild their country, when the US declined they
invaded Kuwait... didnt the US hep Iraq enough during their war with their
neighbor, Iran

http://usiraq.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000670#kuwait
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"Hussein accused neighboring Kuwait in July, 1990, with flooding world oil markets, causing oil prices to decrease and threatening Iraq-s attempts to boost its war-torn economy. On Aug. 2, 1990, some 120,000 Iraqi troops invaded Kuwait, and Hussein declared its annexation."

On July 25, 1990, US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, tells Saddam Hussein, "I admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. I know you need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait."
New York Times "Excerpts from Iraqi Document on Meeting with the US Envoy," Sep. 23, 1990

"Aug. 2, 1990 - The United Nations Security Council convenes an emergency session at the request of Kuwait and the United States, and votes 14-0 (with Yemen abstaining) to condemn the invasion and to demand that Iraq withdraw immediately and unconditionally [UN Resoultion 660]...

Aug. 6, 1990 - UN Security Council imposes trade embargo [UN Resolution 661] on Iraq in a 13-0 vote, with Cuba and Yemen abstaining."





your second paragraph, again is false, it was because of a UN resolution,
a violation of the 1991 surrender agreement that the US went back into
Iraq not because bush said Iraq was a danger to the US with WMD


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shins]
    #14603563 - 06/12/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It is still racism if he is targeting a contained group of lineages. 





you mean like the jews that you're so eager to target in your anti semitic rants

does this mean you'll hit the notify mod button everyone mentions a nationality in a derogatory way?





Yes i made one thread about the inherent racism / superiority etc. of Talmudic Judaism.  But the difference is that I did not call jews names and in any way insinuate they are inferior.

"Zionism" is a political ideology held by people of all colors.




you mean like islam, comprised of people of many colors?

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It's sad how the evil despicable Jews out there who i would say deserve the backlash,  create "hate spillage" over onto the good Jews who maybe don't deserve it.




and while not in your own words, just another copy/paste job by yourself, you seem to like to implicate jews as being behind 9/11, but hey, isnt it by your own multitudes of definitions on racism that you've proven yourself as a racist simply by saying something derogatory about zionists

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13364843#13364843
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13364840#13364840
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13315236#13315236

isnt it true that so many racists say "I have many XXXX friends so I dont think they're all that way" to describe their hate for the majority of some ethnic, religious, cultural group or nationality
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13314672#13314672

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And again, i never insinuate Zionists are racially inferior,  I just simply put that ideology in practice under scrutiny.




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Most notable people talking about and pushing NWO are Jewish and/or free masons.

It's pretty naive to believe free masons are simply stone workers.  But it's okay,  perhaps you haven't taken a real look at it yet.





seems there's loads of your antisemitic, 'the holocaust is a lie' rantings on this board and yet you want to cry about racism and poid


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shroomism]
    #14603590 - 06/12/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
How about we stop trying to police the fucking globe against their will and use our military for what they are for - home defense - and save that 150 quadtrillion dollars a year.





well I agree, it's far better to tell all those foreign nations begging for
money or help to just fuck right off, "I'm sorry Zimbabwe, I dont care if
your children are starving, go ask someone else for a hand out", "Sorry
mexico, you're to corrupt to give billions of dollars to, seem we give you
the money to stop the drugs crossing the border and each time more drugs
are crossing" and while we're at it, lets save tons more money by cutting
off government assistance in this country

none of it changes the fact that we are there, that we are helping them to
stabilize their nation and that we're dumping tons of money into their
economy and infrastructure even though they're an oil rich nation


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14603632 - 06/12/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lol pris, it's not racist to say
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"Most notable people talking about and pushing NWO are Jewish and/or free masons."




Since when does "pushing NWO" make you inferior?

It's true anyways lol.


Quoting a list what other people have said about the matter isn't racist either.

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prej·u·dice
   /ˈprɛdʒədɪs/ Show Spelled [prej-uh-dis] Show IPA noun, verb, -diced, -dic·ing.
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1.
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2.
any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3.
unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group





I'm pretty sure what i sad in that thread was not "formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason." "preconceived" or "unreasonable"



Another irony about this is that I'm from an Israelite lineage :lol:  and my own beliefs include a lot of judaism.

:lol:

nice try though, valiant effort.


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It's sad how the evil despicable Jews out there who i would say deserve the backlash,  create "hate spillage" over onto the good Jews who maybe don't deserve it.




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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14603647 - 06/12/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

oh, and the holocaust WAS a lie

:lol:

*ducks*

Not saying no Jews died, but it was definitely used and exaggerated for Zionist propaganda purposes. 

Did you know "holocaust" means "burn offering" or "burnt sacrifice?"


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shins]
    #14603655 - 06/12/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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lol pris, it's not racist to say
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"Most notable people talking about and pushing NWO are Jewish and/or free masons."




Since when does "pushing NWO" make you inferior?

It's true anyways lol.




racism doesnt have to be about calling some group inferior, in fact it's as
simple as recognizing that there's differences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Racism is the belief that there are inherent differences in people's traits and capacities that are entirely due to their race


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shins]
    #14603670 - 06/12/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Shins said:
oh, and the holocaust WAS a lie

:lol:

*ducks*

Not saying no Jews died, but it was definitely used and exaggerated for Zionist propaganda purposes. 

Did you know "holocaust" means "burn offering" or "burnt sacrifice?"




you find the extermination of 6 million jews to be humorous, so tell us, how many did die

of the victims, including homosexuals, romani, soviets, etc... it could
well have been more than 17 million, is that too an exaggeration?


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