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Lion
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
#14595387 - 06/11/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: I'm referring to lives lost due to terrorist actions..the collateral damage caused by bombing supposed terrorist cells is greatly outnumbered by the lives that would've been lost had we left those said cells alone to do their thing
What cells? Source??
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Poid said: What are you denying..that it was theocratic, or that it was a dictatorship? Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party sounds pretty fucking theocratic to me..I'm not even going to bother explaining why Saddam's government was a dictatorship.
Do you know the definition of theocracy? It is about as far from Saddam Hussein's govt. as an ideology could be.
It sounds to me like you don't know very much at all about the Iraq War.
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Lion]
#14595828 - 06/11/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Funny how he stops responding when asked to provide sources for his baseless claims.
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Lion said: there were NO suicide boimbers in Iraq. Zero. They are a consequence of the anarchy you created. And the only snipers were part of Saddam's military. Everyone knows there were no Iraqi suicide bombers. Why don't you provide a source for one single instance of an Iraqi suicide bomber, pre-war, since you're the one who mentioned them in the first place.
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Poid said: I thought I remembered hearing about them in the news back then..if I'm wrong, so what? So we took a while to take out Saddam..at least we did it. 
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: DeadHearts]
#14595860 - 06/11/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Didn't read the thread but we had the lend lease act with britain. Kinda the same principle. We should have never been there in the first place though. If things are legitimetly better(not sure if they are) why not get a return on our investment in the iraqi people.
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: DeadHearts]
#14595871 - 06/11/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does anyone know the real casualty statistics? The number's i've come across vary widly from ten thousand up to 1 million. Not to mention the problems with DU(depleted uranium) amunition.
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DeadHearts


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
#14595879 - 06/11/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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love2shpongleIRL said: Didn't read the thread but we had the lend lease act with britain. Kinda the same principle. We should have never been there in the first place though. If things are legitimetly better(not sure if they are) why not get a return on our investment in the iraqi people.
Because of the simple fact of the loss of life there mainly civilian. How do you kill 60,000 civilians and then turn around and ask for money because of "the good job we have done."
And the fact that they did not even ask for our assistance whatsoever and they still want us out. This is never going to happen but the shear audacity of one of our Congressional to even suggest such a thing is one of the most unsettling things I have heard this year.
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subject too long [Re: dr_gonz]
#14595893 - 06/11/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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dr_gonz said: what is that guy eating?
He had just robbed a bank, that was the note he showed to the teller presumably saying something like "I have a gun, gimme yo money hooker".
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DeadHearts


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#14595902 - 06/11/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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U.S. commanders in Iraq ignored evidence of torture and often failed to investigate the killing of civilians. These are the major findings from the leak of 400,000 secret American military files from the whistleblowing website, WikiLeaks. The data describes widespread brutal torture of detainees by Iraqi troops - with some documents showing American authorities often turned a blind eye. The files also reveal that 66,000 civilians were killed in Iraq since the U.S. invaded - even though Washington had denied it kept any such record. The Pentagon's condemned what is the largest-ever leak of classified documents - saying it will only serve to help America's enemies.......
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Poid
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Re: .... [Re: Heffy]
#14597465 - 06/11/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heffy said: You claim that most people in Iraq desired our military presence there to protect them from Saddam.
No I didn't.
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Two_Swarm
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Re: .... [Re: Poid]
#14597480 - 06/11/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hundreds f treasures from the multiple Baghdad museums are still under the control of the top secret artifact reserves of the US. THis does not include the extraterrestrial reserves, which are no longer held at area 51.
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Poid
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: DeadHearts]
#14597485 - 06/11/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lion said:
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Poid said: I'm referring to lives lost due to terrorist actions..the collateral damage caused by bombing supposed terrorist cells is greatly outnumbered by the lives that would've been lost had we left those said cells alone to do their thing
What cells? Source??
Are you telling me you are unaware that there are terrorist cells in Iraq?
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Poid said: What are you denying..that it was theocratic, or that it was a dictatorship? Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party sounds pretty fucking theocratic to me..I'm not even going to bother explaining why Saddam's government was a dictatorship.
Do you know the definition of theocracy? It is about as far from Saddam Hussein's govt. as an ideology could be.
It was a government based or at least largely influenced by religion.
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Lion said: It sounds to me like you don't know very much at all about the Iraq War.
That really tells me a lot.
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DeadHearts said: Funny how he stops responding when asked to provide sources for his baseless claims.
I fell asleep.
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Lion said: there were NO suicide boimbers in Iraq. Zero. They are a consequence of the anarchy you created. And the only snipers were part of Saddam's military. Everyone knows there were no Iraqi suicide bombers. Why don't you provide a source for one single instance of an Iraqi suicide bomber, pre-war, since you're the one who mentioned them in the first place.
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Poid said: I thought I remembered hearing about them in the news back then..if I'm wrong, so what? So we took a while to take out Saddam..at least we did it. 

Like always, your posts completely lack content. This is why I didn't want you to respond to me, your posts are 100% useless.
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Two_Swarm
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
#14597494 - 06/11/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You know too much.. you must be..... 313/\/\1/\/@t3d
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Shins
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Two_Swarm]
#14597588 - 06/11/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid; the door is always open with me if you over so chose to walk through.
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Shins
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shins]
#14597609 - 06/11/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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sorry Poid, but this is just too funny...
Avoid the (P)oid Dominoes 1980's
I hope one day me and you can sit around and eat a dominoes pizza (metaphorically speaking.)
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Poid] 2
#14597707 - 06/11/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: So what is so epically fucking retarded here? The suggestion that Iraq pay the US back for helping them get rid of a murderous totalitarian, or your epically fucking retarded inability to explain what is so epically fucking retarded to you about this suggestion? I don't expect a real answer from you, so don't even bother responding with yet another one of your epically fucking retarded posts.
Plenty of Iraqis didn't want US intervention. Sure Saddam was a murderous totalitarian dictator who killed his own people but US airstrikes and assaults have killed civilians as well. Who do you think US troops are fighting right no in Iraq? Do you think Saddam's men are planting IEDs trying to kill US convoys? No. They are local insurgents who want the US to leave.
The Iraqi people did not unanimously ask for the US to iinvade their nation and kill their dictator. In addition all the cost of the Iraq war is over 700 billion dollars. It would be immpossible for Iraq to pay that much money.
The situation is as if you had squirrels in your backyard that you wanted to get rid of, then without permission your neighbor kills all the squirrels and demands three million dollars compensation.
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DeadHearts


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
#14597718 - 06/11/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: Like always, your posts completely lack content. This is why I didn't want you to respond to me, your posts are 100% useless.
Only the posts you choose to actually read. How are your posts especially in this thread robust with content?? All you have done is spew your opinion and makes baseless claims. I guess there is "content" in that.
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: crazyboy25]
#14597726 - 06/11/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: So what is so epically fucking retarded here? The suggestion that Iraq pay the US back for helping them get rid of a murderous totalitarian, or your epically fucking retarded inability to explain what is so epically fucking retarded to you about this suggestion? I don't expect a real answer from you, so don't even bother responding with yet another one of your epically fucking retarded posts.
Plenty of Iraqis didn't want US intervention. Sure Saddam was a murderous totalitarian dictator who killed his own people but US airstrikes and assaults have killed civilians as well. Who do you think US troops are fighting right no in Iraq? Do you think Saddam's men are planting IEDs trying to kill US convoys? No. They are local insurgents who want the US to leave.
The Iraqi people did not unanimously ask for the US to iinvade their nation and kill their dictator. In addition all the cost of the Iraq war is over 700 billion dollars. It would be immpossible for Iraq to pay that much money.
The situation is as if you had squirrels in your backyard that you wanted to get rid of, then without permission your neighbor kills all the squirrels and demands three million dollars compensation.
Exactly.
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: DeadHearts]
#14597753 - 06/11/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Wow, Epically fucking retarded.
BAGHDAD -- A U.S. congressman visiting Baghdad Friday suggested that Iraq pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher spoke during a one-day visit by a group of six U.S. congressman. The California Republican said he raised the suggestion during a meeting with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that some day when Iraq is a "prosperous" nation it pay back the U.S. for everything that it has done here.
"We would hope that some consideration be given to repaying the United States some of the megadollars we have spent here in the last eight years," Rohrabacher told reporters at the U.S. Embassy after the meeting.
http://www.vxec.com/2011/06/gop-congressman-suggests-iraq-pay-back-u-s-for-war-cost/
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: pouihi]
#14597762 - 06/11/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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pouihi said:
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DeadHearts said: Wow, Epically fucking retarded.
BAGHDAD -- A U.S. congressman visiting Baghdad Friday suggested that Iraq pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher spoke during a one-day visit by a group of six U.S. congressman. The California Republican said he raised the suggestion during a meeting with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that some day when Iraq is a "prosperous" nation it pay back the U.S. for everything that it has done here.
"We would hope that some consideration be given to repaying the United States some of the megadollars we have spent here in the last eight years," Rohrabacher told reporters at the U.S. Embassy after the meeting.
http://www.vxec.com/2011/06/gop-congressman-suggests-iraq-pay-back-u-s-for-war-cost/
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: DeadHearts]
#14597787 - 06/11/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: DeadHearts]
#14597800 - 06/11/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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where do i put my direct deposit information?
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