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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Shins]
    #14594588 - 06/11/11 06:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I am very willing however to teach you what i can perhaps in other thread(s).


I'm not sure there is much you can teach me, you can't even make decent sneaky ad hominems. :shrug:

Another thing you can't do is point out a simple logical fallacy that you have claimed to have found in my posts..if you can't do that, then frankly, I don't think you can teach me jack Shiite. :hehehe::osama:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594601 - 06/11/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well. Being an ex, soldier.. You follow orders of the ranks above. Maybe a long time ago pride and whatever meant something..... Now..... If i expressed how fuk3ed it really is. Id be an enemy to the state. Kinda perfect how they have it set up...


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: Poid]
    #14594606 - 06/11/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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they didnt cry to us saying we need help...


Yeah, that's because many of them were too afraid to.


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we saw an opportunity to get some green :moneyeyes:

omgwtf


So what evidence do you have that we don't also generally want to help those people? That we're in debt? You really think that's convincing evidence?




i think its disgusting that were demanding money when we are already building and making ourselves cozy there.. being pour nation is just icing on the cake


this topic quotes one of our leaders saying we need money.

we need money because we helped you

needing help does not justify us going there.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Poid]
    #14594607 - 06/11/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Okay one...


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Any type of protection comes at a cost..are you going to demonize the pest control people who protect me against termites as well?




Lets say the pest control people did as home invasion, spraying everywhere killing your kid and your cats, then put a bill in you face for doing so?


I wouldn't leave my kids and cat inside my home while it's being bombed..but if I happened to, just by chance, then I would still pay for the job they did because it's not their fault that I made the retarded mistake of leaving my loved ones inside my house while it's being bombed for bugs.





Here you jump to the conclusion that you could predict a home invasion.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Shins]
    #14594609 - 06/11/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:highfive:


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: the human abstract]
    #14594615 - 06/11/11 06:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Listen, i don't hate you, or think you are stupid, or want to "beat you" or anything.  I just sincerely want you to see the suffering that this war has caused.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594621 - 06/11/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Well. Being an ex, soldier.. You follow orders of the ranks above. Maybe a long time ago pride and whatever meant something..... Now..... If i expressed how fuk3ed it really is. Id be an enemy to the state. Kinda perfect how they have it set up...




its very strange now with tech being so advanced.. the high ups in computers have access to some crazy info

even the lower people on computers know where subs and weapons are..

its like command and conquer


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Shins]
    #14594630 - 06/11/11 06:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Listen, i don't hate you, or think you are stupid, or want to "beat you" or anything.  I just sincerely want you to see the suffering that this war has caused.



dont know if that was to me

war is a mass production scheme its really what the world economy depends on

keeping people down to keep themselves up


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: the human abstract]
    #14594632 - 06/11/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I was talking to poid.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Shins]
    #14594635 - 06/11/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

OK, So Im about to get a bad rep... I was a soldier for this abomination of wannabe nation for 8 years. It only caused me and my family pain and hardship. I can relate. Te issue is that people cant truly feel that struggle.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594639 - 06/11/11 06:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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they didnt cry to us saying we need help...


Yeah, that's because many of them were too afraid to.


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the human abstract said:
we saw an opportunity to get some green :moneyeyes:

omgwtf


So what evidence do you have that we don't also generally want to help those people? That we're in debt? You really think that's convincing evidence?




i think its disgusting that were demanding money when we are already building and making ourselves cozy there.. being pour nation is just icing on the cake


Did you just misspell 'poor' as 'pour'? :hehehe:

We are doing our best to make them cozy as well, don't be fooled. I have a cousin in the Air Force who is stationed in Iraq ATM..trust me, we're doing a hell of a lot to keep their civilians safe.


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this topic quotes one of our leaders saying we need money.

we need money because we helped you


Yeah, we want to be payed back eventually, when they're prosperous enough to do so.


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needing help does not justify us going there.


Wow, you're complaining about what basically amounts to a humanitarian effort..how compassionate of you. :what:



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Listen, i don't hate you or anything, or think you are stupid.  I just sincerely want you to see the suffering that this war has caused.


Yeah, like you know jack fucking shit about what's going on over there. One of my cousins fought in the Battle of Fallujah..nearly got blown to shreds by an RPG which zoomed just mere feet over the tower that he was stationed on. I have a cousin who is in Baghdad right now, and I'm getting news directly from the source.

Of course there is a lot of suffering, that is the unfortunate cost of war. The US Forces are doing everything they can to reduce the amount of suffering, both for themselves and for innocent civilians. Isn't it obvious that the real bad guys here are the dumbfuck religious fundamentalists? Why demonize the US, when we're trying to get rid of these assholes? :confused:


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594646 - 06/11/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

They have been fed media. no disrespect.... who has been on the frontline?


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594649 - 06/11/11 06:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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its like command and conquer


That made me giggle. :grin:


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They have been fed media. no disrespect.... who has been on the frontline?


My cousins, that's who.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594650 - 06/11/11 06:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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OK, So Im about to get a bad rep... I was a soldier for this abomination of wannabe nation for 8 years. It only caused me and my family pain and hardship. I can relate. Te issue is that people cant truly feel that struggle.




Very wise post!

I completely agree, it's easy to dismiss the suffering when it does not affect you.

I don't blame you for being a soldier, in fact i commend you, it's not your fault that you were lied to into this war.

Though you should have upheld you oath to the constitution, but i forgive you, it would not have been easy to do.


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Poid]
    #14594651 - 06/11/11 06:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

isnt it a law that you MUST own gun if you have a home in some iraq cities?

thats weird..


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594653 - 06/11/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The truth shines when bullets are flyin over your head. And your best friend getin...... yup..


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14594654 - 06/11/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, we want to be payed back eventually, when they're prosperous enough to do so.

Wow, you're complaining about what basically amounts to a humanitarian effort..how compassionate of you. :what:





A humanitarian mission they are expected to pay for?

SYNTAX ERROR


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: Asante]
    #14594655 - 06/11/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Trust cnn if ya like... :boo:


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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: the human abstract]
    #14594657 - 06/11/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

fucking typos..lol

im not to smart in this and i usually stay out of a thread if i dont know the topic well but i saw, and still see, a big contradiction in your posts poid

but at i know what you stand for now

P  hysically
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Re: Pay back the United States for the money it has spent in the eight years since the U.S.-led invasion [Re: sko0bydo0]
    #14594660 - 06/11/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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OK, So Im about to get a bad rep... I was a soldier for this abomination of wannabe nation for 8 years. It only caused me and my family pain and hardship. I can relate. Te issue is that people cant truly feel that struggle.




Very wise post!

I completely agree, it's easy to dismiss the suffering when it does not affect you.


Who is dismissing the suffering here, and who isn't it affecting? I'm the one who wants to get rid of these violent pieces of shit, and I'm the one with actual family in the front lines, and you're accusing me of this shit? :what:


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