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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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*you're

I'm not hating. I've no doubt he's done good things for the psychedelic community, I'm just saying, what he says shouldn't be taken too seriously.

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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As with what anyone says...

But apparently what I say is serious enough for you to correct my grammar. :lol:

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt] * 1
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Grammar is important.  :grammarnazi:

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I'd like to hear about Terence's experiences on psychedelics when going through cancer in his 40's and his death if i have the age area right.  Read a book of his earlier and I don't think it's worth the money for this though the book was interesting.

Might be wrong, the people who do sign up for it let me know if it was worth the money in four days.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: timelapses] * 2
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Here's a video of Terrance's final interview. Although he doesn't talk about his cancer (I'm not sure if he even knew about it before he was hospitalized), he goes over a compilation of all of his final ideas relating to novelty theory.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
Here's a video of Terrance's final interview. Although he doesn't talk about his cancer (I'm not sure if he even knew about it before he was hospitalized), he goes over a compilation of all of his final ideas relating to novelty theory.





Wrong.



Tumor plainly visible on his head here.

Also, please explain what exactly Pinchbeck has done for the psychedelic community.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
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Push to end the war on drugs... more than post on a forum?

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I think the main reaction against Pinchbeck comes from his total lack of scholarly/academic credentials. Most past psychedelic luminaries (Leary, Huxley, McKenna, Lily, others) have been highly educated in one or another field, or deeply steeped in esoterica like RAW, and Pinchbeck seems kind of like an attention-seeking amateur by comparison. (Not saying he actually is.)

I'm not actually that familiar with the guy's work, and kudos to him for organizing the community (especially those upper-class moneyed folks we need so badly).


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (06/05/11 01:55 PM)

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
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Pinchbeck is wonderful in what he is doing.  With contributing to Reality Sandwich, his speaking engagements at Burning Man and the the Colbert Report. 

He has the connections to bring a higher consciousness through media and other means to educate people.  With Iboga and other psychedelics he has and is making a great contribution to moving forward past the ignorance of the masses and lawmakers for psychedelics and the modern movement to wake people up.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: timelapses]
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just leave this here


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: sickofit]
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IMO people who try to "debunk" the Timewave Zero theory are missing the forest for the trees. It's not intended to be taken seriously or as hard science. It's meta-satire.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
IMO people who try to "debunk" the Timewave Zero theory are missing the forest for the trees. It's not intended to be taken seriously or as hard science. It's meta-satire.


I don't have an opinion, I'm just in aw of others.
Thank you.


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A Resource on Psi, Science, and Philosophy
The Taboo of Psi
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Is ____ down, or is it just me?
You know, its against the rules to discuss/trade research chemical sources on the board, oh hey look,a "contact user" button, isn't this site the greatest!
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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
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Tchan909 said:
IMO people who try to "debunk" the Timewave Zero theory are missing the forest for the trees. It's not intended to be taken seriously or as hard science. It's meta-satire.


McKenna didn't see it that way. I think towards the end of his life he knew that it wasn't a solid mathematical model. An English mathematician called Watson debunked it in the mid-1990s and apparently Terence told his brother that he would announce that he had made errors with the calculations, but he never did.

He was wedded to the theory and didn't want to let it go. It was his brainchild.

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Nice. Much appreciated!


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: muffinTop]
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Terence was, among other things, a brilliant story teller. He spoke through various content mediums in the form of history, art, science, 'and so forth and so on.' Like any good story teller, sometime he fluffed the story or added additional details -- some true, some not so true (sticking with the Maybe-Logic paradigm). Like he said, sometimes the elves seem friendly, sometimes they seem mischievous. In terms of the ideas he wished to convey, we may have rode in a beat up raft, but we still made it to the shore.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
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The most powerful archetype is the Trickster.

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Quoth the raven.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said:
The most powerful archetype is the Trickster.


:trolldance::Trollface::maximumtrolling::Trollface::trolldance:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
Mad_Larkin said:
The most powerful archetype is the Trickster.


:trolldance::Trollface::maximumtrolling::Trollface::trolldance:


:lolsy:

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