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OfflineYthanA
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Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna
    #14530540 - 05/29/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The Psychedelic Adventures At The Edge Of The Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna is an online interactive video series taking place June 5th to July 2nd. Hosted by Dennis McKenna, guests include Daniel Pinchbeck, Luis Eduardo Luna, Ralph Abraham, Mark Pesce, and Erik Davis. During this course Dennis McKenna, along with his guests, explore Terence's legacy and reveals his relevance for today.

The cost is $110 for the full 4-week course, but Shroomery members can receive a $75 discount if you enter the promotional code "ADVENTURES" (in all caps) when prompted during checkout. For more information or to sign up, please follow this link.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan]
    #14530568 - 05/29/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sweet.  Thank you.:thumbup:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14530585 - 05/29/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice, this is going to be good


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14530617 - 05/29/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

a friend of mine works with dennis... such a small world.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan]
    #14530815 - 05/29/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:watchingyou::thumbup:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #14530901 - 05/29/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

$75 discount!? Damn, our high holiness grand poobah omniscient :kingtard: :ythan: got the hook-ups :snoop:

Thanks dude :kenthumbup:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: sunset_mission] * 2
    #14532548 - 05/29/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan]
    #14532629 - 05/29/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice score Ythan, thanks!


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14532775 - 05/29/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

The Whale said:
First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!




This is pretty much how it always goes when an exceptionally talented member of the family dies - bank for the rest. Just look at Brian Herbert and the Dune "prequels". :argh:

Still though, Dennis McKenna contributed a major part of Terence's ideas. Terence just happened to be the more outspoken, silver-tongued of the two brothers. They collaborated on everything. I am somewhat tempted to check this out.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14533319 - 05/29/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

The Whale said:
First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!





Bingo!


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan]
    #14533353 - 05/29/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice.  Thanks.















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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Learyfan]
    #14533442 - 05/29/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've already signed up for the Evolver Intensives... though I did so before seeing this discount offer...

:awenuhuh:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Icelander]
    #14534085 - 05/30/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

The Whale said:
First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!





Bingo!




How's this, Ice?



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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14534213 - 05/30/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The Whale said:

How's this, Ice?






HAHAHA I LOVE IT!


Thanks Ythan!  I would like to be part of this, and the discount adds more incentive.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Inner Eye]
    #14534228 - 05/30/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14534505 - 05/30/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nniccce...thx for this...


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14534559 - 05/30/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Omg, my debit card works with everything, but this, I can't pay for it! :frown:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14534579 - 05/30/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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:facepalm:




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14535068 - 05/30/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i entered the code and got a 35 dollar discount, not a 75 dollar one?

Quote:

The Whale said:
First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!




for 35 bucks on dennis's kickstarter site you get a signed hardcopy of the book plus a .pdf of it when it comes out, and lots of other stuff. your basically just preordering the book...so i dont see why people complain about that.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14535659 - 05/30/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Lol... I forgot my sarcasm font?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Inner Eye]
    #14536429 - 05/30/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How long 'til the recorded video is streaming free online? That's really all I care about. I'm broke so I'm definitely not gonna pay to video-chat with these guys, but nonetheless, I do care what they have to say. Any word on if the video will be released free of charge after-the-fact?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: laserpig]
    #14536957 - 05/30/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

nice, thanks for sharing will def be attending digitally


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: drpain27]
    #14539122 - 05/31/11 03:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Hidden display for child pornography, deep in the inner layers of the society. More likely to get access if you are a paid member.

It's also risky to trade with the members there, some people there have very sick minds, go check it out for yourself. Thieves, or people sending you something similar to anthrax, the list just goes on. The members doing this are protected/trusted/moderators also, not just normal randoms.

This site desperately needs shutting down, it is garbage and the people who run it are complete trash.


They used to send you foul (toxic) stuff, then rating rape you with multi-accounts to make it seem like no one liked you, then ban you. They would also manually edit your posts to drop the credibility of it, when you posted about what is happening they would pretty much delete it to cover it up and restrict posting privelages. They would turn that detailed truthful post into a three letter garbage post. You only realize this when you have been victimized.



They could have killed people without anyone knowing the cause of the death really.

Shut them down, The moderators support this behavior when you tell them about it they say tell someone who cares.

This is not the place you want your kids or family on all kinds of fraudulent activities going on.





what you think?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan] * 4
    #14539880 - 05/31/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ugh, Daniel Pinchbeck is such a ponce. I wish this course was elsewhere, because I will never ever give him or his psychedelic Facebook any of my money.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14539999 - 05/31/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

The Whale said:
First Dennis is trying to gather change by peddling more Terence stories in a new book, and now this. He gathered a handful of folks who are perceived to be at the top tier of the online drug guru hierarchy and is charging the plebeians for a fucking video conference?

This is worse than jacking off with Eckhart Tolle in the self-help section.

I don't know about you guys, but I certainly enjoy paying for the insider scoop and getting some delicious secrets on reality. Can't wait!







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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: backinblack]
    #14540710 - 05/31/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

backinblack said:
Quote:

Hidden display for child pornography, deep in the inner layers of the society. More likely to get access if you are a paid member.

It's also risky to trade with the members there, some people there have very sick minds, go check it out for yourself. Thieves, or people sending you something similar to anthrax, the list just goes on. The members doing this are protected/trusted/moderators also, not just normal randoms.

This site desperately needs shutting down, it is garbage and the people who run it are complete trash.


They used to send you foul (toxic) stuff, then rating rape you with multi-accounts to make it seem like no one liked you, then ban you. They would also manually edit your posts to drop the credibility of it, when you posted about what is happening they would pretty much delete it to cover it up and restrict posting privelages. They would turn that detailed truthful post into a three letter garbage post. You only realize this when you have been victimized.



They could have killed people without anyone knowing the cause of the death really.

Shut them down, The moderators support this behavior when you tell them about it they say tell someone who cares.

This is not the place you want your kids or family on all kinds of fraudulent activities going on.





what you think?




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14540804 - 05/31/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like he met his pledge goal.  :whatever:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #14541050 - 05/31/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Penguarky Tunguin said:
Looks like he met his pledge goal.  :whatever:




Yep :feelsgoodman:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 2
    #14543089 - 05/31/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I really would like to know more about what Dennis has been up to. I know he's done a lot of botanical work and such and I'm sure it's all been very important. I just wish he didn't have to pitch himself as Terence's brother to get any attention.

But yeah, paying that much for a video conference is kinda fucking crazy. Pinchbeck is a bit of a jizzmop when it comes to this sort of stuff. Always arranging expensive fucking aya retreats, workshops, etc. I'm sorry but I'm not THAT privileged and white that I'll pay that much money to listen to someone TALK about drugs, or travel to another country to do drugs that I could just as easily order in the mail.

This generation of psychedelic gurus is pretty disappointing.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14543097 - 05/31/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's all about the :money:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14543109 - 05/31/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pinchbeck has a fabulous headshot, by the way - Terence McKenna never looked so gritty and morose yet noble and defiant.



:emo::emo:


Edited by Tchan909 (05/31/11 10:28 PM)


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14543241 - 05/31/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's because he wasn't a ponce.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14545968 - 06/01/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I really would like to know more about what Dennis has been up to. I know he's done a lot of botanical work and such and I'm sure it's all been very important. I just wish he didn't have to pitch himself as Terence's brother to get any attention.

But yeah, paying that much for a video conference is kinda fucking crazy. Pinchbeck is a bit of a jizzmop when it comes to this sort of stuff. Always arranging expensive fucking aya retreats, workshops, etc. I'm sorry but I'm not THAT privileged and white that I'll pay that much money to listen to someone TALK about drugs, or travel to another country to do drugs that I could just as easily order in the mail.

This generation of psychedelic gurus is pretty disappointing.




It's getting harder to trump the previous explorers with intellectual girth, ballsy attitudes, and impressive track records with publishing/traveling/exploring.

In my meager opinion, we have beat a dead horse by analyzing the shit out of this psychedelic caboose - applying every label, philosophy, and allegory within arms reach without sounding cooky. The only two things left to do are: 1) consume them and have the subjective experience sans rulebook and excessive guidelines, and 2) follow Shulgin's path and unearth some more of these magic tricks. The rest is just story telling. Then again, this seems to be one big story, so why not.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14546013 - 06/01/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Until mainstream society latches onto the healing potential of psychedelics (in the process of happening IMO) we're just going to have to keep exploring our relationship with them by categorizing novel ones, recording our experiences, and finding new ways to use them. IE option #2. And by the time the shrinks and the clinics finally catch up with what we've known all this time we'll be sought-after journeymen of the no-longer-forbidden arts.

Pardon my delusions of grandeur but I think there is legitimate possibility it will pan out like this :lol:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14546051 - 06/01/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
Until mainstream society latches onto the healing potential of psychedelics (in the process of happening IMO) we're just going to have to keep exploring our relationship with them by categorizing novel ones, recording our experiences, and finding new ways to use them. IE option #2. And by the time the shrinks and the clinics finally catch up with what we've known all this time we'll be sought-after masters of the no-longer-forbidden arts.

Pardon my delusions of grandeur but I think there is legitimate possibility it will pan out like this :lol:




This is the directions MAPS is pushing for.

It functions primarily by a) appealing to authority (PhDs and MDs discussing drugs is more socially tolerable), and b) like you said, indicating their medical and psychotherapeutic value (again, mere reiterations of a millennia-old tradition; spool irony).

But, launching this boat even further into the future, I think an ideal way to see all this unfold is towards the appreciation of psychonautism for its own sake: to map consciousness, the soul and archetypes, synchronicities, Psi phenomena, etc. Puking and shitting out negativity while the ayahuasca-derived serotonin massages your karmic turds is well and good: our society is sick as fuck - I mean, we're at WAR less we forget. Still, whenever I get all visionary I lean towards the Hedweb/Hedonistic Imperative/Abolitionist/Utopian Pharmacology of David Pearce. We'll eventually use these compounds to hack the mind, and hopefully one day overcome our need to re-live childhood trauma and the curious fascination that a mushroom looks like a wee wee.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14546081 - 06/01/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

All things in baby steps. Once psychedelics are accepted rather than feared by society at large, more complex and organized undertakings can begin. I agree with you that psychedelics are a key instrument of a transhuman future.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14546102 - 06/01/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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All things in baby steps. Once psychedelics are accepted rather than feared by society at large, more complex and organized undertakings can begin. I agree with you that psychedelics are a key instrument of a transhuman future.




Baby steps indeed.

We're still debating legalizing a fucking harmless plant that, at its most threatening, gives you mild euphoria.

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    #14546575 - 06/01/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I wish my brother was a dead famous insane man so I could make money selling bullshit to assholes.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14547156 - 06/01/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What exactly is being healed?


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    #14547720 - 06/01/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14547795 - 06/01/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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But yeah, paying that much for a video conference is kinda fucking crazy. Pinchbeck is a bit of a jizzmop when it comes to this sort of stuff. Always arranging expensive fucking aya retreats, workshops, etc. I'm sorry but I'm not THAT privileged and white that I'll pay that much money to listen to someone TALK about drugs, or travel to another country to do drugs that I could just as easily order in the mail.

This generation of psychedelic gurus is pretty disappointing.




for real!!! i share the same sentiments about Pinchbeck and the current crop of trust fund windbags.


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    #14549446 - 06/02/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14549799 - 06/02/11 07:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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What exactly is being healed?




Your mom.




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    #14549990 - 06/02/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for proving my point.


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    #14550237 - 06/02/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Thanks for proving my point.




There's a point in that nonsequitur? Why can't you prove it yourself? :confused:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14550965 - 06/02/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Your mom.





I see your mom and raise you deez nuts.

Gurus for hire were always cock-sucking sycophants of the upper classes. This is nothing new.


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    #14551017 - 06/02/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

People have no problem spending money on useless clothes or drinks at a bar, but get all up in arms when someone charges something for a project they are putting work, time and information into. If you don't want to pay for the course, don't pay, but save us your bitching.


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People have no problem spending money on useless clothes or drinks at a bar, but get all up in arms when someone charges something for a project they are putting work, time and information into. If you don't want to pay for the course, don't pay, but save us your bitching.




What if someone started charging you for web pages, comments, posts, images, sound bites, news stories, poems, quotes, one line jokes?

Information should be free. And humans should be exuberant about freely sharing and communicating our subjective experiences, which save for a few exceptionally gifted or intelligent people, are all universal. Yes, creative works that absorbed the time and energy of the individual artist should be awarded however possible -- and an advanced society should treasure these conceptual commodities over other material things.

However, in the case of materialism, nothing is being hidden from the consumer. What you see is what you get: a stick of deodorant. In this case of these psychedelic lectures, the underlying and operative attraction is that these individuals somehow possess a more unique truth or perspective than anyone else. Kudos that they are being proactive and organizing conferences, workshops, websites, video chats, etc. If they can make a living off of it by enticing other people who can afford to pay for it, good for them.

But a more noble intellectual will freely admit that their version of the truth is just as much horse shit and flawed as anyone else's. Furthermore, a more noble spiritualist will spread his or her ideas in a way that maximizes their dissemination, not their profit. If what is truly being exchanged is positive energy and more information about an important subject, there are more efficient ways to proselytize the good word than to reserve your elite wisdom for those willing to pay.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14551721 - 06/02/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14553152 - 06/02/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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People have no problem spending money on useless clothes or drinks at a bar, but get all up in arms when someone charges something for a project they are putting work, time and information into. If you don't want to pay for the course, don't pay, but save us your bitching.




What if someone started charging you for web pages, comments, posts, images, sound bites, news stories, poems, quotes, one line jokes?

Information should be free. And humans should be exuberant about freely sharing and communicating our subjective experiences, which save for a few exceptionally gifted or intelligent people, are all universal. Yes, creative works that absorbed the time and energy of the individual artist should be awarded however possible -- and an advanced society should treasure these conceptual commodities over other material things.

However, in the case of materialism, nothing is being hidden from the consumer. What you see is what you get: a stick of deodorant. In this case of these psychedelic lectures, the underlying and operative attraction is that these individuals somehow possess a more unique truth or perspective than anyone else. Kudos that they are being proactive and organizing conferences, workshops, websites, video chats, etc. If they can make a living off of it by enticing other people who can afford to pay for it, good for them.

But a more noble intellectual will freely admit that their version of the truth is just as much horse shit and flawed as anyone else's. Furthermore, a more noble spiritualist will spread his or her ideas in a way that maximizes their dissemination, not their profit. If what is truly being exchanged is positive energy and more information about an important subject, there are more efficient ways to proselytize the good word than to reserve your elite wisdom for those willing to pay.




I agree in an ideal world all information would be free. I'd imagine if humanity grows up we would live in a society where people work to better society. Unfortunately that is not the case at this moment in time. People are still for the most part selfish and will work for money which they spend, for the most part, on themselves.

D. McKenna is not forcing anyone to pay for his lectures. Similarly, people are not forced to pay tuition and go to college. There is a shit load of free information out their on the internet. I rarely pay for information. I will not be paying to see this video conference. However, if someone is willing to put the time into producing something I won't attack them for charging money for it. There's much larger enemies out their to get emotional about.

I'm with you man. Bring on the information revolution. The snowball is picking up speed. We just aren't there just yet.


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    #14554726 - 06/03/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"D. McKenna is not forcing anyone to pay for his lectures."

I'm not forcing anyone to read my dissent of his choice of employment. I am, however, putting it here because people get caught up in this nonsense, and maybe if I joke about it someone out there will take their words a little less seriously.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: xFrockx]
    #14554793 - 06/03/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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"D. McKenna is not forcing anyone to pay for his lectures."

I'm not forcing anyone to read my dissent of his choice of employment. I am, however, putting it here because people get caught up in this nonsense, and maybe if I joke about it someone out there will take their words a little less seriously.




McKenna is an expert in his field, he's bound to have interesting things to say. He's trying to raise money to write a book. I don't see the problem?


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    #14555815 - 06/03/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

An expert in what, exactly?


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    #14555832 - 06/03/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14555845 - 06/03/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14563105 - 06/05/11 02:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hello all!

Have any Australians payed for this? I tried using my card, 3x, I rang the bank and they said it's not my end. I then attempted to use my friends card, same issue. I'm really quite interested, I even sent an email asking on another method of payment and no reply. :sad: :confused:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Lysergic72]
    #14563115 - 06/05/11 02:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

In spite of their reputation, the brothers McKenna are not your typical gurus. They're both pretty dedicated to their fields of study. They're not famous because they're PR whores (which they are not), they're famous because they have interesting things to say.

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    #14564272 - 06/05/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pinchbeck believes he's the vessel of a Mayan god. I really wouldn't take anything he says seriously.


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    #14564331 - 06/05/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you read his book you'd see he's very much human, with all the flaws that come with that. I don't like to defend people I don't know personally, but Pinchbeck has done more for the psychedelic community than most of the people flaming him here. His website actually has some pretty sweet articles - all of it brought to you free of charge nonetheless. But hey, I know how fun it is to jump on a hate bandwagon - it's cool to feel like your part of a group.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14564343 - 06/05/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

*you're

I'm not hating. I've no doubt he's done good things for the psychedelic community, I'm just saying, what he says shouldn't be taken too seriously.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14564347 - 06/05/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

As with what anyone says...

But apparently what I say is serious enough for you to correct my grammar. :lol:


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    #14564387 - 06/05/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14564400 - 06/05/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'd like to hear about Terence's experiences on psychedelics when going through cancer in his 40's and his death if i have the age area right.  Read a book of his earlier and I don't think it's worth the money for this though the book was interesting.

Might be wrong, the people who do sign up for it let me know if it was worth the money in four days.


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    #14564469 - 06/05/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here's a video of Terrance's final interview. Although he doesn't talk about his cancer (I'm not sure if he even knew about it before he was hospitalized), he goes over a compilation of all of his final ideas relating to novelty theory.



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Here's a video of Terrance's final interview. Although he doesn't talk about his cancer (I'm not sure if he even knew about it before he was hospitalized), he goes over a compilation of all of his final ideas relating to novelty theory.







Wrong.



Tumor plainly visible on his head here.

Also, please explain what exactly Pinchbeck has done for the psychedelic community.


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    #14564651 - 06/05/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Push to end the war on drugs... more than post on a forum?


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    #14564738 - 06/05/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think the main reaction against Pinchbeck comes from his total lack of scholarly/academic credentials. Most past psychedelic luminaries (Leary, Huxley, McKenna, Lily, others) have been highly educated in one or another field, or deeply steeped in esoterica like RAW, and Pinchbeck seems kind of like an attention-seeking amateur by comparison. (Not saying he actually is.)

I'm not actually that familiar with the guy's work, and kudos to him for organizing the community (especially those upper-class moneyed folks we need so badly).


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    #14564821 - 06/05/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pinchbeck is wonderful in what he is doing.  With contributing to Reality Sandwich, his speaking engagements at Burning Man and the the Colbert Report. 

He has the connections to bring a higher consciousness through media and other means to educate people.  With Iboga and other psychedelics he has and is making a great contribution to moving forward past the ignorance of the masses and lawmakers for psychedelics and the modern movement to wake people up.


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    #14564927 - 06/05/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14564935 - 06/05/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

IMO people who try to "debunk" the Timewave Zero theory are missing the forest for the trees. It's not intended to be taken seriously or as hard science. It's meta-satire.


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    #14564968 - 06/05/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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IMO people who try to "debunk" the Timewave Zero theory are missing the forest for the trees. It's not intended to be taken seriously or as hard science. It's meta-satire.



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    #14564994 - 06/05/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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IMO people who try to "debunk" the Timewave Zero theory are missing the forest for the trees. It's not intended to be taken seriously or as hard science. It's meta-satire.




McKenna didn't see it that way. I think towards the end of his life he knew that it wasn't a solid mathematical model. An English mathematician called Watson debunked it in the mid-1990s and apparently Terence told his brother that he would announce that he had made errors with the calculations, but he never did.

He was wedded to the theory and didn't want to let it go. It was his brainchild.


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    #14565010 - 06/05/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: muffinTop]
    #14565656 - 06/05/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Terence was, among other things, a brilliant story teller. He spoke through various content mediums in the form of history, art, science, 'and so forth and so on.' Like any good story teller, sometime he fluffed the story or added additional details -- some true, some not so true (sticking with the Maybe-Logic paradigm). Like he said, sometimes the elves seem friendly, sometimes they seem mischievous. In terms of the ideas he wished to convey, we may have rode in a beat up raft, but we still made it to the shore.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale]
    #14565674 - 06/05/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14565730 - 06/05/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14565740 - 06/05/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The most powerful archetype is the Trickster.




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14565789 - 06/05/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14565796 - 06/05/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The most powerful archetype is the Trickster.




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #14565826 - 06/05/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Some of Pinchbeck's tangible accomplishments:

Creator of the Evolver network, with its monthly spore gatherings.

Creator of Reality-Sandwich, with its constant barrage of new articles, information, and knowledge.

Co-Produced the movie: 2012:Time for Change, which isn't as apocalyptic, cataclysmic, or superstitious as it might sound. It's more about the practical, pragmatic, and reasonable ways that we can avert the impending ecological disasters by using sustainable technology.

Working on the Unify Earth project: an event that will take place on Dec 21, 2012 in which there will be an attempt at pulling together everyone's collective psychic energy to help the earth and spread love, even if only temporarily... or some bull shit like that.

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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: laserpig]
    #14566041 - 06/05/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.




Yea, exactly. I see people getting on people's case like Pinchbeck and Rogan all too often. The fact they are in the public eye (more so Rogan) and are an image of someone who does psychedelics and is not a "hippie" or "batshit crazy" is a good thing.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14566433 - 06/05/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.




Yea, exactly. I see people getting on people's case like Pinchbeck and Rogan all too often. The fact they are in the public eye (more so Rogan) and are an image of someone who does psychedelics and is not a "hippie" or "batshit crazy" is a good thing.




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14566629 - 06/05/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.




Yea, exactly. I see people getting on people's case like Pinchbeck and Rogan all too often. The fact they are in the public eye (more so Rogan) and are an image of someone who does psychedelics and is not a "hippie" or "batshit crazy" is a good thing.






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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #14566726 - 06/05/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.




Yea, exactly. I see people getting on people's case like Pinchbeck and Rogan all too often. The fact they are in the public eye (more so Rogan) and are an image of someone who does psychedelics and is not a "hippie" or "batshit crazy" is a good thing.









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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #14566846 - 06/05/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Just to chime in on Pinchbeck: he obviously is at best a junior intellectual compared to luminaries like McKenna or [name your favorite psychedelic thinker]. But he's also more mainstream than any of those guys. If psychedelics are ever going to gain ground in public opinion, I think we'll need more people like Pinchbeck.




Yea, exactly. I see people getting on people's case like Pinchbeck and Rogan all too often. The fact they are in the public eye (more so Rogan) and are an image of someone who does psychedelics and is not a "hippie" or "batshit crazy" is a good thing.









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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14566854 - 06/05/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Lmao, that is pretty funny. Yea, well, he doesn't always dress like that. :lol:


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14566943 - 06/05/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There are in fact dozens of prestigious researchers currently working behind the scenes with psychedelics clinicals, many of whom work outside of the U.S. Most of these guys don't receive media attention, given that scientific data - in the mind of Joe Blow - is about as culturally appealing to the masses as the researcher's khaki pants and sports blazer. Eccentric hippies or political rebels sell more gumdrops.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale] * 1
    #14566959 - 06/05/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm checking out Reality Sandwich right now, it's actually not a bad site. It's like a psychedelic Huffington Post.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14566967 - 06/05/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The photo was probably taken at a burning man festival.  Seriously how much does fashion mean when you take psychedelics or use it regularly?  FIT INTO THIS MOLD, be a fucking tool and sheep. 

I'd wear something simuular if it wasn't for law enforcement and the attention it would bring that would make people uncomfortable if you are on a psychedelic and dressed in such a manner.

Fuck babylon and it's decaying ways and wanting to fit in or to fit in just to survive with the finances.  I'm not under that shit.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: The Whale] * 1
    #14567257 - 06/05/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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There are in fact dozens of prestigious researchers currently working behind the scenes with psychedelics clinicals, many of whom work outside of the U.S. Most of these guys don't receive media attention, given that scientific data - in the mind of Joe Blow - is about as culturally appealing to the masses as the researcher's khaki pants and sports blazer. Eccentric hippies or political rebels sell more gumdrops.




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: timelapses]
    #14568501 - 06/06/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Seriously how much does fashion mean when you take psychedelics or use it regularly?




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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan]
    #14568891 - 06/06/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Would there be a way for people to view prior videos that have already been recorded? Today's date is June 6th - would I be able to view June 5th's session once I've registered?


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: Ythan]
    #14569380 - 06/06/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pinchbeck is a joke. He only borrowed like 80% of his material and his writing acumen is barely average.


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Re: Psychedelic Adventures at the Edge of the Abyss: The Ideas of Terence and Dennis McKenna [Re: GrizzlyBear]
    #14569509 - 06/06/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Would there be a way for people to view prior videos that have already been recorded? Today's date is June 6th - would I be able to view June 5th's session once I've registered?




I dunno, but I hope someone is recording them to upload on YouTube. It's that kind of trickle-down, no-secrets mentality that defines le psychedelic community.


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    #14569634 - 06/06/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Hi! Could anyone recommend a trusted site or company from where I can order a grow kit?

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