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 Re: Idea: A new rating system  [Re: ]
#1535609 - 05/09/03 06:54 PM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Karma is a weighted system, that considers various factors in determining how much "karma" a specific user is able to give out at any given time. It won't restrict you to only one rating of a user, but you won't be able to go around whorin' up the karma either 
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 Thor
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 Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: geokills]
#1535879 - 05/09/03 09:42 PM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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The more positive karma you recieve the more you can give, thus people who get loads of good karma can give more 'weighted' karma to others.
At overgrow it works really well, and a similar system here is needed.
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: Thor]
#1535970 - 05/09/03 10:31 PM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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how does one get 'karma'?
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Murex
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: Thor]
#1535984 - 05/09/03 10:41 PM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: matts]
#1536393 - 05/10/03 02:59 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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you get karma from good ratings from other people. so its basiclly a what goes around comes around thing. if you have a shitty rating then when you rate people it wont count for shit. likewise if you have a high rating then your rate will be weighted. peace
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: blaze2]
#1536473 - 05/10/03 04:51 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Thor
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1536479 - 05/10/03 05:00 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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The only thing bad about the Karma system is that you get bonus points or more "weight" from simply being a member longer. That is pure bullshit. The fact that some loser that has no life spent the bulk of it at a website shouldn't give them more "weight". I would substitute in its place rank. The higher your position, the more weight you would have.
Cheers,
Well I'm glad you 'weighed' in on this since you don't seem to understand the karma system. It does not matter how long you've been here. It does not matter.
You are given 'ratings' as you do here at the shroomery. But lets make this simple.
A user here with 1 shroom votes you a 1 shroom.
That has little effect of your rating since that user has a low 'weight' to their votes on other users.
However if a 5 weight user votes you a 1, it has a big effect on your rating since that user has been given a lot of weighted ratings to earn a 5 rating. Thus this user can give a heavy rating as opposed to a user with 1 rating and a low weight.
Just check out www.overgrow.com for the Karma system and how it works.
I have never seen a better system online other than the Karma system. Nobody comes close to it.
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I would substitute in its place rank. The higher your position, the more weight you would have.
Oh, so because you are a mod you are better than anyone else? Maybe an admin is better than anyone because of their rank?
Seems to work for the military. Why not here?
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 Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: Thor]
#1536495 - 05/10/03 05:22 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Thor
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1536510 - 05/10/03 05:39 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Why so snippy, Captain? 
Because you were against this whole thing. This has been my baby and thankfully matts came around and made it a reality for me and the community. You called it bullshit.
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You know as I know that there was an incredibly long ass discussion on this in the mod forum. And it was explained to me that the length of time you had been at the site the more weight you had.
I have not seen this, and dont know where this came from.
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If that was a lie and I believed it don't blame me for being another other than gullible.
Lie? I have no idea where this came from.
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Oh, so because you are a mod you are better than anyone else? Maybe an admin is better than anyone because of their rank?
Seems to work for the military. Why not here?
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Better? Please point out where I said "better". The fact is that those of us who work our ass off should be good people.
Good people according to who? If you do good then the users who make up this community reward you with positive 'weighted' ratings.. Those who have low weighted influence have less ability to effect your rating, those who have 'earned' a high rating (karma) can give you high or low ratings according to their standing in this community.
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The higher up the ladder you go the better sort of person you should be. True? Or do you support giving positions of responsibility and authority to assholes?
Hey no mod choice is ever perfect, you know for a fact we've had mods who have turned around and been nothing but assholes after they've left. Betrayal has happened on more than 4 occasions in the past, yet in your theory Mods are better than others? I know plenty of users of whom I've met in real life and who have great reputations and respect. Because they are 'users' should they not have the same respect as mods?
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Do I think 3D should have more weight than I do?
Damn straight!
I think that should be decided by the community, the mass of users who judge each 'post' 'reply' or comment by 3D to determine his rating. OF course I would and most others would give 3D a immensly high rating, but his actions on the BB to other users are also important. Its not a situation where because you are an admin that you be untouchable and free from criticism.
WE ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR ACTIONS.
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Do I think I should have more weight than Looner?
Damn straight again.
I agree with you there, this 'karma' type system would also reflect this situation better than our current system of mushroom ratings.
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If getting a bunch of rates gives you more clout when you give them, then are you saying that some dickhead who has a 1 mushroom rating and 70 rates has more clout than a member who has a 5 mushroom rating and only 35 rates?
I certainly hope that isn't the case.
Well again you are certainly making a judgement without obviously going to overgrow and reading how it works.
You judged this system without the facts, and here you are making examples of it without realizing how the system works.
The more 'positive' ratings you have the more you can give. If you have nothing but negetive ratings the less you can give.
Its simple, please refer to Overgrow.com for their Karma system and then comment on it after you know the facts.
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Anno
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1536594 - 05/10/03 07:27 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: Anno]
#1536604 - 05/10/03 07:39 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1536610 - 05/10/03 07:43 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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>Great, so then we will reward post whores? I think that's bullshit too.
Hmmm, but you are a postwhore too, right? 
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 Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: Anno]
#1536641 - 05/10/03 08:25 AM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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Thor
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1537127 - 05/10/03 02:17 PM (20 years, 23 days ago) |
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We have never intended on using it exactly as they have it at overgrow. We've discussed using a 'karma type' system here, one that matts will create and obviously number of posts won't reflect on the weight of your ratings.
Thats a given.
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1537156 - 05/10/03 02:34 PM (20 years, 22 days ago) |
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So you are saying that you are better than everyone? 
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Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1537160 - 05/10/03 02:37 PM (20 years, 22 days ago) |
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Do I think I should have more weight than Looner?
don't patronize me!!! 
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Murex
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1537288 - 05/10/03 03:52 PM (20 years, 22 days ago) |
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The more ratings you have, the less your ratings will be affected by new ratings.
If the new system gets active, I suggest all ratings get erased and we start over again.
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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: ]
#1537300 - 05/10/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 22 days ago) |
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I'm curious, and the devil's advocate:
>>Which means that members who have been there longer get more points. And as I said before I think that's bullshit.
^^ Why do you think that's bullshit, what are your reasons and the overall conclusion do you see if such a stipulation was implemented?
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Anonymous
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Re: Idea: A new rating system [Re: neuro]
#1537674 - 05/10/03 07:07 PM (20 years, 22 days ago) |
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