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Invisibledjfrog
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yet another idea for reducing sock count
    #704956 - 06/27/02 08:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

So like, whenever someone opens up a new account, they should have to pay a $5 registration fee. This would be a one time only charge for new accounts only. There would not be continuous membership fees, and I think the $5 pays for itself for the knowledge that can be gained (if someone is paying >$10 for a syringe, they can afford $5 once too). It could be paid via paypal, or an anonymous $5 could be sent in the mail.

The effect of this is, someone who wants to have a bunch of sock puppets is going to think twice before doing it. People will only bother creating high-quality, quality sock puppets (tongue in cheek) rather than the numerous dumb ones.

The downside is, there might be people out there who don't have $5. Umm, but what they can do is write a letter (anonymous perhaps) by hand at least 500 words of something saying anything pleading for a free membership. That way the $5 is really optional, a donation really.

Thoughts?

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #704984 - 06/27/02 08:19 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I think it's a great idea. Or maybe instead of $5, just the essay idea, and it can be sent by email. They used to have that on the lycaeum.org boards, you'd have to write a short essay explaining why you're interested, and the mods would screen them.


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #704986 - 06/27/02 08:19 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I hav'ent had money for a syringe for months now.

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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Phluck]
    #705005 - 06/27/02 08:28 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

It would be fine to say you either write an essay or send the $5. The contents of the essay shouldn't be too strictly checked, just make sure it took awhile to write so that there is a 'cost' of entry.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #705182 - 06/27/02 09:29 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

i like the idea too, heck i think you could prolly cut it down from 5$ down to $1.... if some moron wants to keep paying a dollar to make stupid puppets that will be banned let them pay for thor and 3d's lunch

On the other hand, i think you could get away with only making it cost 25c... whos gonna go through all that hassel to keep making accounts that keep getting banned. also with that note, simply making the registration procedure more complicated could help out drasticly as well.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: windex]
    #705186 - 06/27/02 09:31 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

the problem that would most likly be ran into is now the shroomery is getting money for their content, i dunno how this could affect them legally, but with all the rights the've taken away in the past few months, who knows.....

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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: windex]
    #705196 - 06/27/02 09:37 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, the legal issue/making a profit was something I was concerned about to. Thats the benefit of keeping it optional with the essay alternative. Also, records could be kept proving that all the money went to pay for the boards regular bills and no net profit was made.

The $ amount could be reduced, but $5 is pretty minimal and would compensate the mod's time of actually handling registrations.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Phluck]
    #705199 - 06/27/02 09:38 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

This sounds like it could be pretty effective. I like the idea of the option $5 or 500 word essay.

That should cut the sock use down to include only the truly depraved.


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Post deleted by MOE THE MAD SCIENTIST [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #705212 - 06/27/02 09:43 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: vatoloco]
    #705226 - 06/27/02 09:51 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

But SG said he was leaving. Again!


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #705401 - 06/27/02 10:55 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

No thanks. I know that not everybody would pay that $5 and I wouldn't want to feel that anybody is better around here than other people because the people running the place say they are. The essay is a good idea....I guess!


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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: phrozendata]
    #716459 - 07/01/02 05:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

bump

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #730486 - 07/08/02 02:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

No.

Just think of the broke teenagers and otheragers, the other people who have no credit cards etc.

And essays? Think of the people who don't speak English as a first language. All that stuff.

That would just be oppression.


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #731167 - 07/08/02 09:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

NO, leave it alone....

you guys are scary


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: PGF]
    #733213 - 07/09/02 07:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

We're just tired of all your socks.


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #733256 - 07/09/02 08:01 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

i thought I was your sock....?

and my sock, dank_nugs, died when the new server came online....
I am barefoot


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: PGF]
    #734929 - 07/09/02 07:10 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Yes I am.


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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: PjS]
    #739148 - 07/11/02 10:31 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

If someone can post here, they can write an essay on paper and send it in. No one ever said it had to be good english.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #739365 - 07/11/02 12:08 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

no one even said it had to be english...

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #772500 - 07/24/02 06:35 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Poster: djfrog
Subject: Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count

So like, whenever someone opens up a new account, they should have to pay a $5 registration fee. This would be a one time only charge for new accounts only. There would not be continuous membership fees, and I think the $5 pays for itself for the knowledge that can be gained (if someone is paying >$10 for a syringe, they can afford $5 once too). It could be paid via paypal, or an anonymous $5 could be sent in the mail.

The effect of this is, someone who wants to have a bunch of sock puppets is going to think twice before doing it. People will only bother creating high-quality, quality sock puppets (tongue in cheek) rather than the numerous dumb ones.

The downside is, there might be people out there who don't have $5. Umm, but what they can do is write a letter (anonymous perhaps) by hand at least 500 words of something saying anything pleading for a free membership. That way the $5 is really optional, a donation really.

Thoughts?


That sounds like a good idea. Maybe a user should be allowed to make up to 5 posts before having to pay the fee.

Or members should be allowed to post 30 times per month, And would have to pay a one time fee of $5 for unlimited posting.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Mushroom_Madness]
    #772509 - 07/24/02 06:40 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Mushroom Madness, I like your revised idea. Sounds very feesable to me!

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Mushroom_Madness]
    #773287 - 07/24/02 11:57 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Mushroom_Madness]
    #773635 - 07/24/02 02:14 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think allowing a low number of posts before charging the fee is not very good, because malicious folks can still create lots of socks and only use them each 30 times or whatever, and it doesn't take many posts to create antagonism. I do not think such a compromise is necessary, as anyone who has the resources to visit this site would have the resources to pay the fee or write an essay.

This is not a high fee, its not actually a fee since they can write the essay, and the everyone will still have access to all information gathered, they just won't be able to ask questions or add info until they pony up. So it will not prevent the knowledge here from being spread. I am not advocating making the forums so that non-users cannot read them.

Thanks for the input people, I'm still convinced this is a good idea though. Keep the discussion rolling, I really wonder why the admin's haven't spoken on this officially.

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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #4075741 - 04/20/05 03:12 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I still think they shoudl tax babies and gas.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #4076456 - 04/20/05 10:15 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

No need to tax gas, just strip the subsidies and show the people the real cost without the gas companies benefiting.


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #4076495 - 04/20/05 10:27 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I think that the shroomery is based on the idea of freedom of speech and freedom of information. While it may seem like a good idea to keep the underage posters/trolls away, this is why there is a rating system, so people can immediatly (ususally) weed out good/bad advice given to them.

Also, is an admin or a mod really going to want to read hundreds of essays? People on this site will be viewed for the information that they present/discuss, and charging or demanding a written essay to join a "club" is pretty beat.

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Boom]
    #4076552 - 04/20/05 10:47 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The system that they use now to expose and eliminate puppets seems to be working fine. Puppets usually last about 5 minutes in OTD. I wouldn't add anything to the registration page.


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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #4080839 - 04/21/05 10:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

why dig this thread up?


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Invisibledjfrog
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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: Jim]
    #4100870 - 04/26/05 10:37 PM (19 years, 26 days ago)

heh I don't know. I can't really explain without bumping the thread. And now that I've had to bump, I don't have an explanation. dig?

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Re: yet another idea for reducing sock count [Re: djfrog]
    #4101627 - 04/27/05 02:28 AM (19 years, 26 days ago)

Mods keep the sock count down... but OM me if you have an extra $5!

:smile:


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