cilosyb said:

...it's like we've forgotten that that's where we came from, from a place of total wonder and boundlessness. I have a theory that we forgot on purpose, just so we could awaken and remember how awesome everything really is.

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Hostile, ignorant-fuck sheeple are the reason that our world is 1000 years behind where we might have been were evolution of intellect ALLOWED to take it's course.

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Thanks for putting my frustrations into words for me! also very eloquently if i might say so.

coAsTal said:

How often do you do this? Is it something that you just hit every few hours? (I'm talking after you are "prepared" with experience of what to expect) I wouldn't think that you do it all day long...it would probably be too much...

It seems like it's clearly draining... but is there a strong compulsion to do it a lot? I'm not getting the impression there is any "abusive" behavior with this...

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dedjam said:

Interesting theory, although in my experiences with true breakthroughs, its not so much meetings "aliens". These "aliens" or "beings" or "elves" (whatever the fuck you want to call them) have an INTIMATE knowledge of us. When I go, I am expected, they know I am about to arrive and they have prepared for that arrival. Many times there are "crowds" gathered. I cant explain the DMT world, I cant explain what happens on the other side of a breakthrough when you are sitting in what can only be described as the "control room of reality", although I am sure no mental picture you will get from that description will come close. Its a place that feels more at home than anything you can imagine, yet a place that you are so intimately familiar with that it can be scary/eerie. And then there is the "music", the "music" everyone I have talked to about their breakthrough can remember...a sound that flows through you and everything, almost carnival like...yet in some ways ancient and in need of reference.

I am rambling now, as I often do when talking about DMT. Its hard to discuss because I know so many things that I cant get out of my head properly to explain to others. I could discuss this for an eternity and not get across what I want to...so instead I usually just hand people the bowl and help them get to that place on their own.

DMT takes you out of this universe...you arent seeing aliens as we think of aliens. You are seeings beings that exist outside of our universe in reality, outside of our life and death.

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StarrGazer said:

hello, sorry this is my first post here. I actually want to dive into a question of my own but I thought it'd be a bit rude if I didn't have a little chat first

There is a man, I can't remember his name but he paints/draws these amazing beings made of fractals that were apparently beings that constantly watch us, however these beings can't get close because the vibrations we give off as people alone are enough to destroy them. If I find the paintings I will post them but a lot of them looked like common animals (I specifically remember an owl) made of fractals. I've never done DMT and back when I heard about this (a good few years now)

I hadn't heard of DMT back then either but when I read a trip report in which someone recalled their cat suddenly becoming engulfed in fractals and so on, the drawing that the tripper had drawn of how he remembers his cat was scarily similar to the ones I remember this man had drawn. I don't know if he had drawn these under the influence of drugs or if he had claimed to be psychic.

I think the point I'm trying to get at is that there are some outstanding similarities between what people experience on DMT and other drugs and what psychics or people who have bizzare events happen to them also experience. I've heard also about DMT that there is a real 'sense' of aliens even if they are not seen. A lot of people say that it feels like there are aliens watching them and this seems to be a really common theme in DMT trips. I'd love to know more about it but I'm a novice to psychedelics and I think DMT would blow my head off at this point.

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In September 2006, it was reported in Nature[2] that Shahar Arzy and colleagues of the University Hospital, Geneva, Switzerland, had unexpectedly reproduced an effect strongly reminiscent of the doppelgänger phenomenon via the electromagnetic stimulation of a patient's brain. They applied focal electrical stimulation to a patient's left temporoparietal junction while she lay flat on a bed. The patient immediately felt the presence of another person in her "extrapersonal space." Other than epilepsy, for which the patient was being treated, she was psychologically fit.

The other person was described as young, of indeterminate sex, silent, motionless, and with a body posture identical to her own. The other person was located exactly behind her, almost touching and therefore within the bed on which the patient was lying.

A second electrical stimulation was applied with slightly more intensity, while the patient was sitting up with her arms folded. This time the patient felt the presence of a "man" who had his arms wrapped around her. She described the sensation as highly unpleasant and electrical stimulation was stopped.

Finally, when the patient was seated, electrical stimulation was applied while the patient was asked to perform a language test with a set of flash cards. On this occasion the patient reported the presence of a sitting person, displaced behind her and to the right. She said the presence was attempting to interfere with the test: "He wants to take the card; he doesn’t want me to read." Again, the effect was disturbing and electrical stimulation was ceased.

Similar effects were found for different positions and postures when electrical stimulation exceeded 10 mA, at the left temporoparietal junction.

Arzy and his colleagues suggest that the left temporoparietal junction of the brain evokes the sensation of self image—body location, position, posture etc. When the left temporoparietal junction is disturbed, the sensation of self-attribution is broken and may be replaced by the sensation of a foreign presence or copy of oneself displaced nearby. This copy mirrors the real person's body posture, location and position. Arzy and his colleagues suggest that the phenomenon they created is seen in certain mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia, particularly when accompanied by paranoia, delusions of persecution and of alien control. Nevertheless, the effects reported are highly reminiscent of the doppelgänger phenomenon.[3] Accordingly, some reports of doppelgängers may well be due to failure of the left temporoparietal junction.

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StarrGazer said:

hello, sorry this is my first post here. I actually want to dive into a question of my own but I thought it'd be a bit rude if I didn't have a little chat first

There is a man, I can't remember his name but he paints/draws these amazing beings made of fractals that were apparently beings that constantly watch us, however these beings can't get close because the vibrations we give off as people alone are enough to destroy them. If I find the paintings I will post them but a lot of them looked like common animals (I specifically remember an owl) made of fractals. I've never done DMT and back when I heard about this (a good few years now)

I hadn't heard of DMT back then either but when I read a trip report in which someone recalled their cat suddenly becoming engulfed in fractals and so on, the drawing that the tripper had drawn of how he remembers his cat was scarily similar to the ones I remember this man had drawn. I don't know if he had drawn these under the influence of drugs or if he had claimed to be psychic.

I think the point I'm trying to get at is that there are some outstanding similarities between what people experience on DMT and other drugs and what psychics or people who have bizzare events happen to them also experience. I've heard also about DMT that there is a real 'sense' of aliens even if they are not seen. A lot of people say that it feels like there are aliens watching them and this seems to be a really common theme in DMT trips. I'd love to know more about it but I'm a novice to psychedelics and I think DMT would blow my head off at this point.

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