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Re: Fat people *DELETED* [Re: Anonymous #16]
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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #34]
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Anonymous #34 said:
Those things do cause burdens but they also can help. Meat provides needed protein, cars are good for a lot of things and provide more opportunities for people to help ze earth. Cosmetics are meh, but being Obese has NO benefit to anyone else. Obese people basically steal money vicariously through mooching government run programs that were designed for people who really need the help. Do obese people really deserve welfare and disability? FUCK NO. The problems they have were caused by themselves therefore they should receive no bail-out. They should care enough about themselves to fix a serious health problem. I would love to see an obese person try to survive in a hunter-gatherer society



You can get your protein from sources other than eating meat. There is nothing in meat that cannot be sourced elsewhere. It is extremely energy inefficient to eat meat, high consumption is correlated with cancer and other health problems, and there are a lot of negative environmental effects associated with the agriculture industry. I'm not saying that people should stop eating meat, but if you do eat meat you need to realise that your eating habits are also having a negative impact. So don't be a hypocrite.

I am certain that not every obese person is alike. What if a fat person suffers from chronic depression? Because many of these people DO have psychological problems which manifest in obesity. If they aren't entitled to welfare, then no one with a mental condition should be, either. Not all fat people are on welfare, and not all the people on welfare are fat. People on welfare are really a separate argument here. In the same vein, not everyone that is thin is necessarily healthy, and not everyone that is fat is necessarily unhealthy.

In terms of how they would survive in a hunter gatherer society - I wouldn't be surprised if they outsurvived everyone else. There are actually heaps of studies on this and the 'survival of the fattest'. Put a thin person and a fat person in an environment with little food - it seems perfectly logical the fat person would have an advantage, not only due to the difference in the present state of their energy reserves but also a likely slower metabolic rate.



I don' t eat meat but what I was saying is that it does have benefits to go along with its negative output. Obese people don't. I also never said all people all welfare are obese, I was more referring to all the obese people have gotten the disability tag and now mooch

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Re: Fat people *DELETED* [Re: Anonymous #16]
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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #34]
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I haven't read anything in this thread but fat people suck and they disgust me.

I think we should send them to asia so they can cook them up, I bet one fat person could feed a family of 4 for at least a year.

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #37]
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There are two sides to every story. I'm sure you can find some beneficial effects of being fat if you do a google search. For example:

"Flicker and colleagues1  found that overweight older people have a lower mortality rate than "normal weight" older people. They suggest that this might be due to overweight people, in the event of illness, having greater metabolic and nutritional reserves.

Another possible explanation for the lower mortality rate involves the protective effect of fat. Falls are a common health event for older people. In the event of a fall, the additional "padding" reduces the likelihood of a hip fracture, avoiding the risk of surgical complications, postoperative infections, or blood clots occurring after extended periods of traction." - Journal of the American Geriatrics Society




I never said being fat doesnt have any benefits, but it has absolutely no benefits towards society. Keeping old people alive longer is an ever bigger burden to society because it causes even more overpopulation which raises health care wait times and various other problems

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #16]
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:rolleyes:
ok bro tell me what you give to society on a day to day basis that is putting old people in the history books

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #21]
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I don't give anything to society that puts old people in the history books, I just don't like the idea of people living to 80+ years old. It creates mad problems. My mother works at one of those assisted living retirement centers and tells me stories of people who are a straight waste of space and money. They spend 20,000 a month to shit all over themselves and forget who their family is. If they just went and died like there body is telling them to do, that money could go to their family who is an active member of society and it would stimulate economic growth. Orrrrrrr, that 20,000 a month could go to some charity to find a cure for aids or something.


This is off-point though. Obese people are wastes of space and should start eating salad and running around.

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #34]
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Fatties are turds. :thumbdown: Glad this thread is still going.

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #16]
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Anonymous #16 said:
I don't give anything to society that puts old people in the history books, I just don't like the idea of people living to 80+ years old. It creates mad problems. My mother works at one of those assisted living retirement centers and tells me stories of people who are a straight waste of space and money. They spend 20,000 a month to shit all over themselves and forget who their family is. If they just went and died like there body is telling them to do, that money could go to their family who is an active member of society and it would stimulate economic growth. Orrrrrrr, that 20,000 a month could go to some charity to find a cure for aids or something.


This is off-point though. Obese people are wastes of space and should start eating salad and running around.



well there is your probelm your giving them pills to fuck em up more and then you charging them 20,00 dollars a month when they clearly don't even eat anything at that age besides crackers and chocolate, people can live to be 120 if they drink tea and shit.  Plus those old people worked 10x harder in their day then you or any day laborer hauling lumber and digging ditches so i dont see your point

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #21]
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Anonymous #16 said:
I don't give anything to society that puts old people in the history books, I just don't like the idea of people living to 80+ years old. It creates mad problems. My mother works at one of those assisted living retirement centers and tells me stories of people who are a straight waste of space and money. They spend 20,000 a month to shit all over themselves and forget who their family is. If they just went and died like there body is telling them to do, that money could go to their family who is an active member of society and it would stimulate economic growth. Orrrrrrr, that 20,000 a month could go to some charity to find a cure for aids or something.


This is off-point though. Obese people are wastes of space and should start eating salad and running around.



well there is your probelm your giving them pills to fuck em up more and then you charging them 20,00 dollars a month when they clearly don't even eat anything at that age besides crackers and chocolate, people can live to be 120 if they drink tea and shit.  Plus those old people worked 10x harder in their day then you or any day laborer hauling lumber and digging ditches so i dont see your point




Still are pretty worthless in their current state. Drinking tea also isn't a sure ticket to anything.

That said, if I ever end up in that state, someone better just kill me. My dad was a doctor who saw countless people who were just a shell and nothing more. Yes they would breath and eat, but what the hell is that? Would you want that? So if there was a tiny bit of conscious left in you, it would know that death is the only thing to look forward to at that point.

I disagree what people say about meat and fat, and do a ketogenic diet. If one really wants to worry about their body and mind for when they become that old, they will want to look into it as what most of us consider standard in diet is so off base.

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #38]
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<<Obese people are wastes of space and should start eating salad and running around.>>

:lol: :thumbup:

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #34]
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Anonymous #38 said:
I disagree what people say about meat and fat, and do a ketogenic diet. If one really wants to worry about their body and mind for when they become that old, they will want to look into it as what most of us consider standard in diet is so off base.



Trusty wikipedia gives me this information on a ketogenic diet:

"A typical day of food for a CHILD on a 4:1 ratio, 1,500 kcal (6,300 kJ) ketogenic diet comprises:[27]

    * Breakfast: egg with bacon
      28 g egg, 11 g bacon, 37 g of 36% heavy whipping cream, 23 g butter and 9 g apple.
    * Snack: peanut butter ball
      6 g peanut butter and 9 g butter.
    * Lunch: tuna salad
      28 g tuna fish, 30 g mayonnaise, 10 g celery, 36 g of 36% heavy whipping cream and 15 g lettuce.
    * Snack: keto yogurt
      18 g of 36% heavy whipping cream, 17 g sour cream, 4 g strawberries and artificial sweetener.
    * Dinner: cheeseburger (no bun)
      22 g minced (ground) beef, 10 g American cheese, 26 g butter, 38 g cream, 10 g lettuce and 11 g green beans.
    * Snack: keto custard
      25 g of 36% heavy whipping cream, 9 g egg and pure vanilla flavouring."

Ok.... so are you a fatty, or what? What's your cholesterol and triglyceride level, out of curiosity? Do you eat much vegetables or fruit at all?




First off, that is a typical keto diet for seizure patients, and include big no no's to satisfy sweet tooth's such as artificial sweeteners. I don't do dairy, it reacts not so well with me, and I am not a fan of the opiate like peptides that dairy and wheat contain that cause interesting digestive situations on varying levels to different people.

I eat plenty of eggs, a small amount of bacon (made a mistake recently when I ordered the wrong kind and ended up with bacon cured with sugar), fatty beef, beef liver, and pretty much any meat.

My mom is going to do blood lipid testing on me and my brother who hates my diet (yet he is the fat one). I almost have an eight back, but am still working off either a little water bloat, or something that I had since I was little and was put on allergy meds. My allergies cleared up even after I stopped taking them. That junk gave me man boobs when I was still skinny, and finally after much effort is almost gone away with. My complaint is she will not issue the particle size tests for HDL and LDL which are vital to knowing whose profile is better. I'm tempted to consult somebody how common breast growth is with that med. I wouldn't be surprised if it did something weird with estrogen, since it wasn't a typical allergy med from what I overheard.

The only vegetables and fruit I eat are when I taste test them when I make dinner for the rest of the family. Fiber is not beneficial, and the reasoning to intact it doesn't hold ground to scrutiny. People yell at me about RDA's, but they don't know how they were even formed, so I get yelled at by so many ignorant people. I don't really care though, their defense is you need x, I ask why. "You just do" I respond why I don't, and they claim I'm a nut. Fine with me, I watch fat people pound down pasta while I eat a chopped steak, and they claim I am the unhealthy one.

When I go to this one store to buy ginger the fat cashiers always tell me how they eat so many carbs, and I tell them I eat none, and yet sprint faster than ever and lift heavier without crashes. The full metabolic shift takes awhile, but once complete is amazing.

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #38]
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Free checks = lard ass
No amount of diet compensates for intetional infantility and food gratification. It's their sex and dope since they don't or can't do either. It's also easy, constant and provided free of charge by the US free checks for bums system.
That and infantilizing, dumbing down and degrading our society are about the sum and tot. of it.
Pointless people eat. They got little else.
If there was mail-box heroin, it would be a discussion of "Richard Simmons for Junkies!"
But if diet, counseling and free checks were the answer the problem would not be getting worse.

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Re: Fat people [Re: Anonymous #39]
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just eat when you are hungry

sometimes i work longer just because i know i am goin to eat
: O

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