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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: DieCommie]
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yeah why would i believe anything in the bible, i don't see that belief helping me.  same with history books, most of the stuff was probably recorded wrong, most of what happened probably happened in a completely different way in reality

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: uncivilBANKS]
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Some people deny that Jesus even existed.  :shocked:


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: deCypher]
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Mr. Cypher said:
The Catholics recently decreed that Genesis shouldn't be taken literally, brah.



Well that little bit of info would have been useful a few wars ago...

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
naw, god just LOL'd.

he was like "u cant fuck ur family" and they're like "but there's no one else here" and he's all "Well thats not my fuckin problem is it?"

tru story


:rofldrunk:

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Im pretty sure god knows what a day is... A day is a day.  Its not a year, its not a billion years.

What kind of deceptive creator would use the word 'day' to mean a day everywhere but in the beginning of genesis where day somehow means billions of years.


I know,this really bothered me. Not enough to get into the conversation though.


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Its funny, that is actually one of the mantra's of young earth creationist ken ham.  There is video of him saying, to his congregation "Repeat after me, 'A day is a day'".  And I couldn't help but think, yea I agree with that.  A day does mean a day, it doesn't mean 3 billion years.  (of course that is where our agreement ends as he takes that fact to mean that the earth is 10000 years old, and I take it to mean the bible account is wrong)

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: DieCommie]
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I'm just so used to hearing that.
"God's concept of time and ours are totally different. Our whole life in God's eyes could really only be a few minutes."

I actually asked my mom what she believes about dinosaurs the last time I saw her and she said "It's all about God's time."

:rolleyes:

It's just a way of disguising "Well, I don't know the real answer to that. So I made this one up and it sounds good."


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Im pretty sure god knows what a day is... A day is a day.  Its not a year, its not a billion years.


:laugh2:

Yea, Im sure he does

but the bible was written by men, not god

something most fundies get real antsy about when you tell them that


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: niteowl]
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Alright so maybe I can let this epic mis-communication of days vs. billions of years go, but that doesnt cover up the insanely lame rainbow theory...

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 1
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I wonder if prisms didn't work before the flood either?  :rolleyes:

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Im pretty sure god knows what a day is... A day is a day.  Its not a year, its not a billion years.

What kind of deceptive creator would use the word 'day' to mean a day everywhere but in the beginning of genesis where day somehow means billions of years.


Whether it was intentional or not I always thought the idea that a day represents a thousand years (or whatever other set of time) was pretty interesting.

Plus God didn't write the Bible so he wasn't the one being deceitful.

Assuming the Bible is supposed to not only tell a story but define a set of morals I don't see why it's so impossible or wrong for it to have metaphorical stories.


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: jewunit]
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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
DieCommie said:
Im pretty sure god knows what a day is... A day is a day.  Its not a year, its not a billion years.

What kind of deceptive creator would use the word 'day' to mean a day everywhere but in the beginning of genesis where day somehow means billions of years.


Whether it was intentional or not I always thought the idea that a day represents a thousand years (or whatever other set of time) was pretty interesting.

Plus God didn't write the Bible so he wasn't the one being deceitful.

Assuming the Bible is supposed to not only tell a story but define a set of morals I don't see why it's so impossible or wrong for it to have metaphorical stories.


:handth:

If more christians could see the bible as a set of stories
that try to set an example of how to live in a civil society
rather than cold hard fact that cant be interpreted any way but literally

then I would not have a deep seated hatred for that religion


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Its funny, that is actually one of the mantra's of young earth creationist ken ham.  There is video of him saying, to his congregation "Repeat after me, 'A day is a day'".  And I couldn't help but think, yea I agree with that.  A day does mean a day, it doesn't mean 3 billion years.  (of course that is where our agreement ends as he takes that fact to mean that the earth is 10000 years old, and I take it to mean the bible account is wrong)


maybe a day on another planet in another solar system could take as long as 3 billion of our years? God is an alien.  :feelsweirdman:

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: psilyguy]
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well a day on mercury is 58 earth days :shrug:


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: learningtofly]
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My dad thinks dinosaur bones were put in the earth as a test of faith :rolleyes:

My mom thinks a guy named Noah actually put two of every species of animal in a boat (despite my telling her that there are literally MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS of land-inhabiting species, and that a boat made of wood could not POSSIBLY accommodate that number of animals.  Her response is, "Through God all things are possible"

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence?


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By making his world a little colder.

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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: circularvortex]
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circularvortex said:
My dad thinks dinosaur bones were put in the earth as a test of faith :rolleyes:

My mom thinks a guy named Noah actually put two of every species of animal in a boat (despite my telling her that there are literally MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS of land-inhabiting species, and that a boat made of wood could not POSSIBLY accommodate that number of animals.  Her response is, "Through God all things are possible"

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence?


ya how do u fit two whale sharks on a fuckin boat

and wouldnt that include like all diseases too? that would fuck some shit up


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: learningtofly]
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Well whale sharks would do okay outside of a boat during a major flood I would imagine.  I'm just thinking land based species.

I mean....there are populations of species that number less than 50 in the whole world that live in the way back ass range of caves, too many insects to count....it's just completely impossible.  Did Noah have time to travel across the whole globe before this flood happened in his GIANT FUCKING BOAT and visit all the little nooks and crannies EVERYWHERE to find two of EVERYTHING?  I mean....come on.  In this supposed time people in Biblical areas didn't even know about the existence of SEVERAL continents.  If Noah really did get everything from everywhere, you'd think he might have documented that the world is round, there's seven continents, and humans would have had a much greater understanding of their environment.

Also, after he'd accomplished all this he'd have to put everything back where it was, requiring a second trip around the globe (and across huge masses of land, mind you).

The whole thing is just recockulous.


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No statements made in any post or message by myself should be construed to mean that I am now, or have ever been, participating in or considering participation in any activities in violation of any local, state, federal, or fashion police laws. All posts are works of fiction.

For well you know that its a fool who plays it cool
By making his world a little colder.

Under closer inspection I realised it was a funky ball of tits from outer space.


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Re: ADAM/EVE [Re: circularvortex]
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Interesting thought on the water species. Wouldn't the salt water creatures be compromised by the fresh water rains that supposedly flooded the earth?

And the insect thing, wouldn't there be deadly spiders, animals(Gila monster) etc. on that boat biting people?


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