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sooo believers of adam and eve..
    #19331023 - 12/26/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In the beggining, bare minumum of over 8 billion years from earths perspective god made Adam and eve. That's where humans came from. So then what? They died out dinosaurs and such roamed and then evolution just happened to create the human again in a similar fashion millions of years later?

Speaking of dinosaurs to. A priest once told me dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test faith.. Um what!


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc] * 3
    #19331032 - 12/26/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The earth is 6,000 years old and Adam and Eve left the garden of Eden of the back of a t-Rex.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc]
    #19331047 - 12/26/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And, pondering on this the other day, wouldn't this imply that we're all beings brought into this divine opportunity by... people who committed incest?!?!?! Yet Jesus was born of a Virgin.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc] * 1
    #19331049 - 12/26/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In the beggining, bare minumum of over 8 billion years
Speaking of dinosaurs to.




:uhno: try 5,000 wise guy


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Channeling_Spirit]
    #19331057 - 12/26/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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And, pondering on this the other day, wouldn't this imply that we're all beings brought into this divine opportunity by... people who committed incest?!?!?!




Nothing wrong with a little incest now and then. The Romans did it all the time, and look how well it worked out for them!


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19331063 - 12/26/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

my grandfather is a preacher...he will tell you that we walked alongside dinosaurs

and let the circle of conversation begin...yeehawww!


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19331066 - 12/26/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In the beggining, bare minumum of over 8 billion years
Speaking of dinosaurs to.




:uhno: try 5,000 wise guy




Well then that's not the beginning. With that logic god was created by a higher being to take some load off creating a possibly endless universe.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: MisterSandman] * 2
    #19331071 - 12/26/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The dinosaurs were all in America and Adam and Eve were in the Middle East that's why dinosaur bones were found in USA .


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc]
    #19331084 - 12/26/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Besides there is evidence of humans are 5000 years. I see what you mean. He waited till then to make humans but that's a limited text ignoring all other life. But I guess since "animals don't have souls" its cool.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: ShiVersblood] * 2
    #19331085 - 12/26/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, incest is inescapable if you take the bible seriously.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #19331094 - 12/26/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The bible was put here by aliens to fuck with our heads, so when they come back, we will believe they are the divine and only way to heaven.

They have been playing us like fiddles for thousands of years.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Rhizohunter] * 1
    #19331114 - 12/26/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You been watching the show ancient aliens too much


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #19331173 - 12/26/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a believer of Adam and STEVE :naughty:


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc] * 3
    #19331223 - 12/26/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Speaking of dinosaurs to. A priest once told me dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test faith.. Um what!



:rofl::lol:

I know one person IRL who tells me they "Don't believe in dinosaurs".
Her basis was that she doesn't believe scientists, and has never personally seen any real fossils.
Then later in the conversation, I explained that I have personally excavated dinosaur fossils.
Her reply was: "Oh I believe that way back, there were animals that are much much larger than we have today".
I literally face palmed and said, "Yeah, that's what a dinosaur is".


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc] * 1
    #19331268 - 12/27/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't participate,laughing too hard!


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc]
    #19331271 - 12/27/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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highc said:
Speaking of dinosaurs to. A priest once told me dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test faith.. Um what!



(bill hicks)

that seems to be the most common excuse for fossils by dumb creationists.

the story of adam and eve goes deep. very very deep. entirely symbolic. and makes a lot of sense at the heart of the story. it's about the fall from grace, and entering into the prison of ego. it's the price we must pay to attain enlightenment.

you can get just as much sense out of JRR Tolkien's the similarion

y'know what happens when symbolic stories get translated in a literal context? nonsense


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc]
    #19331284 - 12/27/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think the chances of there being a god that is described in the bible and the whole creation thing is at least possible. Who are we to say what can or can not be? We can only make our best attempts with the information we have on what seems to make the most sense. However, faith is in opposition to that, by its very nature. The Denisovians are a recently recognized hominid species, and part of their DNA as well as 8% of the Neanderthal genome contains unknown hominin DNA. Who's to say Adam and Eve aren't the original ancient primate ancestors, and the image of God is more like a monkey than a human?

Do I think they are... No.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: dukkahwarrior] * 1
    #19331292 - 12/27/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think the chances of there being a god that is described in the bible and the whole creation thing is at least possible. Who are we to say what can or can not be? We can only make our best attempts with the information we have on what seems to make the most sense. However, faith is in opposition to that, by its very nature. The Denisovians are a recently recognized hominid species, and part of their DNA as well as 8% of the Neanderthal genome contains unknown hominin DNA. Who's to say Adam and Eve aren't the original ancient primate ancestors, and the image of God is more like a monkey than a human?

Do I think they are... No.



if the god of the bible is the god of reality, then we're all doomed. not sure if you read the bible, but that god guy in it is an asshole\\

examples:

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1    "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)

2    "Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)

3    "You shall not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:18)

4    "Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." (Psalm 137:9)

5    "When the men would not listen to his host, the husband seized his concubine and thrust her outside to them. They had relations with her and abused her all night until the following dawn, when they let her go. Then at daybreak the woman came and collapsed at the entrance of the house in which her husband was a guest, where she lay until the morning. When her husband rose that day and opened the door of the house to start out again on his journey, there lay the woman, his concubine, at the entrance of the house with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, 'Come, let us go'; but there was no answer. So the man placed her on an ass and started out again for home." (Judges 19:25-28)

6    "And the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity." (Romans 1:27)

7    "Jephthah made a vow to the Lord. 'If you deliver the Ammonites into my power,' he said, 'whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites shall belong to the Lord. I shall offer him up as a holocaust.' ... When Jephthah returned to his house in Mizpah, it was his daughter who came forth, playing the tambourines and dancing. She was an only child: he had neither son nor daughter besides her. When he saw her, he rent his garments and said, 'Alas, daughter, you have struck me down and brought calamity upon me. For I have made a vow to the Lord and I cannot retract'." (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)

8    "Then God said: 'Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you'."(Genesis 22:2)

9    "Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)

10    "Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18)




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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc]
    #19331313 - 12/27/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What's life without whimsy?


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Envix]
    #19331321 - 12/27/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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if the god of the bible is the god of reality, then we're all doomed. not sure if you read the bible, but that god guy in it is an asshole\\





Absolutely, if the Bible is right and we're not repentant, we sure are. I became a Christian when I was nineteen, and within the last year I've grown beyond that construct and don't really identify with it.  I actually used to be a missionary and a youth leader, and would preach to junior highers some Sundays. Haha! But you never know... Pascal's wager and all that.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: dukkahwarrior] * 1
    #19331331 - 12/27/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i just find it weird how a transcendent god would be so caught up in human emotions, like anger, jealousy, vengeance, and power-lust :shrug:

i was raised christian during childhood, so i know quite a bit about the bible. i realize it can be translated in infinite ways. it's mostly mistranslated. language is slippery. be careful


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Envix]
    #19331337 - 12/27/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As humans we naturally anthropomorphize. As creatures with emotions we attach that to our god. Man wasn't created in the image of God, God was created in the image of man.

However, the Christian (circular) answer to that is: God has emotions, therefore we have emotions due to imago dei. But, since God is holy, good, righteous, perfect, so then is his anger, jealousy, and wrath.

"It's the song that never ends...it just goes on and on my frieeeends..."


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: dukkahwarrior] * 1
    #19331342 - 12/27/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

god simply is.

all other notions of "god" is created by humans


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Envix]
    #19331346 - 12/27/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Who's to say that this "god" is even what our human vocabulary implies?


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Envix] * 6
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: dukkahwarrior] * 1
    #19331349 - 12/27/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Who's to say that this "god" is even what our human vocabulary implies?




it's not. that's exactly my point. god speaks only in silence. god teaches only in silence.

one must first vanquish all notions of "god", before they can realize what god is.

listening without defining. it's tricky. but that's the closest one can get to "god"

is it possible to quiet the mind enough to meet god? most people rarely ever do it. and when they do, they call it "psychosis" or some crap/ hahahaha



EDIT:
also, human emotions are things which evolved from animal instincts. emotions are basically a more complex version of instincts, the driving force of behavior. instincts develop into emotions when a species complexifies their behavior. they didn't "come from god". they transformed naturally, along with everything else in nature


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Envix]
    #19331381 - 12/27/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

y'all need Jesus


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19331410 - 12/27/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They do :yesnod:


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc]
    #19331483 - 12/27/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In the beggining, bare minumum of over 8 billion years from earths perspective god made Adam and eve. That's where humans came from. So then what? They died out dinosaurs and such roamed and then evolution just happened to create the human again in a similar fashion millions of years later?

Speaking of dinosaurs to. A priest once told me dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test faith.. Um what!




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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19331507 - 12/27/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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y'all need Jesus




Or any other human as far as im concerned. Jesus was no different then you or me. We are all the son of god.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: highc] * 1
    #19331512 - 12/27/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread is kinda meh without TMH777/YSHServant and his stubbornness/trolling (I'm really not sure which one)


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Envix]
    #19331514 - 12/27/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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highc said:
Speaking of dinosaurs to. A priest once told me dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test faith.. Um what!



(bill hicks)

that seems to be the most common excuse for fossils by dumb creationists.

the story of adam and eve goes deep. very very deep. entirely symbolic. and makes a lot of sense at the heart of the story. it's about the fall from grace, and entering into the prison of ego. it's the price we must pay to attain enlightenment.

you can get just as much sense out of JRR Tolkien's the similarion

y'know what happens when symbolic stories get translated in a literal context? nonsense



What envix said. It's actually a really beautiful narrative of the rise of consciousness IMO.

Just don't be a tard about it and take shit literally lol


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: NWlight]
    #19331520 - 12/27/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Which Adam and Eve story are we talking about? There's two (at least) in genesis alone.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19331543 - 12/27/13 02:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Which Adam and Eve story are we talking about? There's two (at least) in genesis alone.



Creation from dust and Temptation by satan causing banishment from the garden.


Awareness causing "shame of their nakedness" etc.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: NWlight]
    #19331549 - 12/27/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, i can't look at myself in the mirror because of these two fuck ups?


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19331556 - 12/27/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nope just eve, She convinced adAm to go full retard and eat the forbidden fruit.

Now there's Angels with flaming swords and shit keeping us from being happy in the garden.

What a Bitch.  I totally get homosexuality bro. If it was Adam and Adam and we could continue to reproduce asexually by ripping out our ribs we would be eating delicious fruit naked together all day like animals


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: NWlight]
    #19331558 - 12/27/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nope just eve, What a bitch. She convinced adAm to go full retard and eat the forbidden fruit



I've always thought it was the beyoootch, who ate the forbidden fruit :themoreyouknow:

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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: rulesq]
    #19331564 - 12/27/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh she totally did then she gave some to adam. You think she let him have the first bite? No. She's eve. And she's a bitch. The bible teaches us that women are inherently weaker willed than men and that men do stupid shit if women convince them to.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: NWlight]
    #19331566 - 12/27/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just reading the bible here, and I have a point of order to make.

God told Adam to not eat the kiwi (for sake of argument) before Eve was even made. He didn't tell Eve shit, nor did he tell Adam to get Eve up to speed on the kiwi thing. Adam should have asked for a lawyer.


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Oh so it was ok until he took a bite. Well. a good lawyer could have figured this out.


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    #19331573 - 12/27/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How so you know so much NWlight? Were you raised in a very religious household?


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    #19331592 - 12/27/13 03:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How so you know so much NWlight? Were you raised in a very religious household?



Very traditional Roman Catholic mass every Sunday from birth til I moved out.

I got kicked out of the catholic private school they tried putting me in though, thank god (ironic in this case).

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I got kicked out of CCD for asking too many questions.


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    #19331609 - 12/27/13 03:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I got kicked out of CCD for asking too many questions.



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    #19331619 - 12/27/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Haha right on, :highfive:

I didn't make it past preschool :vaped: mine was behavioral though. I didn't question the bible at four years old I just wouldn't STFU and sit down


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    #19331632 - 12/27/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Haha right on, :highfive:

I didn't make it past preschool :vaped: mine was behavioral though. I didn't question the bible at four years old I just wouldn't STFU and sit down




apparently, the nuns said "maybe this isn't the right place for young koods" lol

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    #19331642 - 12/27/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I never got to eat Jesus, my only regret.



He is a bit stale, so it's not like you missed out on anything.


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    #19331652 - 12/27/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:loldongs:

I've eaten Jesus hundreds of times he's always bland as fuck.
he could use some butter or jam or something.

For my first confession I told the priest I let a girl touch my penis in day care :rofl:


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    #19331659 - 12/27/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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For my first confession I told the priest I let a girl touch my penis in day care :rofl:



This guy here is a true star  :kimjong:

:congrats:

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    #19331667 - 12/27/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude it's so fun you have no idea.

By high school I started telling him how i was smoking weed taking psychedelics railing coke and shit.

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Dude it's so fun you have no idea.

By high school I started telling him how i was smoking weed taking psychedelics railing coke and shit.

He had to smile and shake hands with my parents, couldn't say a damn thing :grin:



Fuck yeah, why haven't I thought of this before :lookslucrative:


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    #19331675 - 12/27/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

just about everyone I've known with a decent personality has been mind fucked by the catholic church, and mind fucked them right back.


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    #19331681 - 12/27/13 03:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Finland has the lowest proportion of Catholics in all of Europe, about 9,000 people.[1] The overwhelming majority are foreign-born, particularly Polish. About half of the priests are Polish. As of 2007 there are only two Finland-born priests, and only one of them works in Finland. The Bishop of Helsinki is Mgr. Teemu Sippo, appointed on June 16, 2009. He is the first Finn to serve as a Catholic bishop for over 500 years.



I had to google a bit. There are almost 10x more muslims in here, than catholics :themoreyouknow:


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Finland has the lowest proportion of Catholics in all of Europe, about 9,000 people



so, half your population is catholic?

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Finland has the lowest proportion of Catholics in all of Europe, about 9,000 people



so, half your population is catholic?

:hehehe:



:hahthatsrich:

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    #19331690 - 12/27/13 04:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:haha:
I met an ex-Moslem whose parents converted to Catholicism when they moved to America. He got Shitty drunk on stolen communion wine at church camp.

The best part is after he confessed it  :whatyougonnado:


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    #19331698 - 12/27/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That is the most insidious part of the catholic mentality... You can do whatever the fuck you want, as long as you fess up before you die, you're good to go. You just have to make sure to time everything properly and not get hit by a bus and end up in Ensenada.


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    #19331708 - 12/27/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey man if it wasnt for last rites a lot of rapists and murderers wouldn't have made it to heaven. Is that what you want???

In the epic battle between heaven and hell during the apocalypse I def. want them on my side


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    #19331710 - 12/27/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I still think they get rapey with their own side.


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    #19331716 - 12/27/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh...
:ifyoucanawe:

It's ok they will pray after


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    #19331721 - 12/27/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dan savage did a piece for This American Life about the lure of the Catholic Church.

Be warned, you may get weepy


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    #19331762 - 12/27/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow I just finished watching.  Couldn't have said it better myself man,  when I was younger I wished I could just "make" myself believe what I heard in church. But it is not a choice.

So I was forced to be a black sheep for years, going through the motions painfully.

I love that he wore a shirt from the church that he was kind of ripping on.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: NWlight]
    #19331997 - 12/27/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if u wanna go  even more  back in  time  life evolved from 1  cell in water  sooo u could say if  we eat any other  living being we are being cannibalistic  according to  science :havesomescience:

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    #19332083 - 12/27/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Speaking of dinosaurs to. A priest once told me dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test faith.. Um what!




Yeah I can't understand how people embrace that idea. So God is some prankster troll who's trying to get people to believe the wrong thing so they'll go to hell? The same God who loves everyone and wants them to go to heaven?


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Haters gotta' hate.


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    #19332252 - 12/27/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm up to a point when I simply get angry as soon as somebody mentions religion to me.

Sure, openmindedmess is a good thing and intelligent conversations are better than anger, but fuck, they start their conversations with absolute non-sense and refuse to hear reason. So I say screw open-mindedness, we should simply discriminate against these people until there kind disapprears. Their children should be raised by the state in order that their parent don't contaminate their young minds with bullshit.

Adam and Eve's kids, who do they have to fuck in order to get kids of their own? Either mommy and daddy or each other. Great message to pass on. Incest fuck yeah! It's great for the gene pool right?


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    #19332269 - 12/27/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How did the "virgin" mary get pregnant?  Whose DNA was it? If jesus is god, then jesus got his own mother pregnant and give birth to himself, what a fucked up story.


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How did the "virgin" mary get pregnant?  Whose DNA was it? If jesus is god, then jesus got his own mother pregnant and give birth to himself, what a fucked up story.




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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: Patlal]
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this thread is so far off the mark it's wacky
jesus and the bible are some pretty cool dudes if you ask me




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    #19332321 - 12/27/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Adam and Eve's kids, who do they have to fuck in order to get kids of their own? Either mommy and daddy or each other. Great message to pass on. Incest fuck yeah! It's great for the gene pool right?




That or other unrelated humans were created directly in the way that Adam and Eve were. There are plenty of other more direct mentions of incest in the Bible though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_%28biblical_person%29#Lot_and_his_daughters


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    #19332323 - 12/27/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How did the "virgin" mary get pregnant?  Whose DNA was it? If jesus is god, then jesus got his own mother pregnant and give birth to himself, what a fucked up story.




Honestly, is this story all that hard to figure out? Mary gets knocked up, and she comes up with a totally far fetched story to cover her ass... The goat herders believe it and bamm we've got a new religion. All because some slutty chick had to make up a story about how she got preggers.

The morality in the bible is so fucked up  it should be used as an example for how to not live your life.


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    #19332340 - 12/27/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Be truly enlightened..Read the Quran...


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How did the "virgin" mary get pregnant?  Whose DNA was it? If jesus is god, then jesus got his own mother pregnant and give birth to himself, what a fucked up story.




Honestly, is this story all that hard to figure out? Mary gets knocked up, and she comes up with a totally far fetched story to cover her ass... The goat herders believe it and bamm we've got a new religion. All because some slutty chick had to make up a story about how she got preggers.

The morality in the bible is so fucked up  it should be used as an example for how to not live your life.




Exactly. Not to mention she banged a colored man. But I guess that's only assuming mary was white. Jesus was def light skinned.


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the virgin birth was written by gays
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lol
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For my first confession I told the priest I let a girl touch my penis in day care :rofl:




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For my first confession I told the priest I let a girl touch my penis in day care :rofl:




I bet that priest was jealous.



:hahthatsrich:

hahahahaha, I don't even.. wait, what? hahahahahahhaha :lol:


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For my first confession I told the priest I let a girl touch my penis in day care :rofl:




I bet that priest was jealous.



:hahthatsrich:

hahahahaha, I don't even.. wait, what? hahahahahahhaha :lol:




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    #19332831 - 12/27/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dan savage did a piece for This American Life about the lure of the Catholic Church.

Be warned, you may get weepy





Wow. I really loved watching this, and yes, I did get bit weepy. It was just so spot on about how I feel about the Catholic church also having been forced to go as a kid. Also, because now I'm an "agnostheist" as Savage put it.:congrats:


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    #19332844 - 12/27/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Devout Christians believe that man walked the Earth with dinosaurs.


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The bible was written by man. Man is imperfect. Thus the bible has flaws, yes?


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The bible was written by man. Man is imperfect. Thus the bible has flaws, yes?



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    #19334448 - 12/27/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The bible was written by man. Man is imperfect. Thus the bible has flaws, yes?



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    #19334673 - 12/27/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bibles are Subjective to who commissioned them and the source of the writers. Protestants made their own,Catholics their own, not to mention the craaazy shit left out or burned. So yes, flawed. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19334694 - 12/27/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Adam and Eve is a creation myth with political purposes. Every culture has their creation myths. Most of them are strikingly similar from a writer's perspective.

Adam and Eve, at the moment, is a very well known creation myth, in Western society. It's familiarity transforms it into an allegorical tool for writers/speakers/thinkers. It can become a trope in and of itself, where ideas that moreso associated with modern Christianity are submitted into this archaic piece of the Bible, in hopes that an image of continuity will remain for the Church. After all, aside from vast amounts of wealth, a religion is doomed without an image of continuity.

More interestingly, the adam and eve story is being used an allegorical trope by people who are spreading thoughts that in direct conflict with the current political stances of the church. In doing so, they can sort of subconsciously steal the authenticity people are supposed to associate with the institution of the church, and once they have your trust, brainfuck you.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19334717 - 12/27/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bibles are Subjective to who commissioned them and the source of the writers. Protestants made their own,Catholics their own, not to mention the craaazy shit left out or burned. So yes, flawed. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain




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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19334735 - 12/27/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you see, the earth has been visited by inter dimensional beings for billions of years. they first helped life get started on this planet. Then the reptilians created dinosaurs because they were cool as shit and they just wanted to see dinosaurs fight n shit. When the earth was ready, they killed off the dinosaurs and started to populate the earth again with mammals. They soon started to genetically engineer apes and human like creatures, as well as alien/human hybrids. The first successful human created was Adam. They then used his DNA to create Eve, and the rest of the human race. Once the earth was populated enough with humans, the hybrids started to set up civilizations. These beings are still involved in our evolution, and will soon be able to interact with humans on a much larger scale. Right now they only interact with few key people in the US gov't. We will soon become a part of the intergalactic family.

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    #19334744 - 12/27/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: LittleDipster]
    #19334755 - 12/27/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Adam and eve is way more believable than anything in the book of Mormon


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19334759 - 12/27/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There was no Eve. It was Steve. Everybody calls him uncle Steve, but we know what's really going on.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19334762 - 12/27/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There was no Eve. It was Steve. Everybody calls him uncle Steve, but we know what's really going on.




i can dig this

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1517 Hans Holbein, Adam and Eve




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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19334769 - 12/27/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Is fact. Different sects have their own book, each edited and redacted in their own way


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19334778 - 12/27/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Explains the weird Bert and Ernie vibe, but why the hate of chic-fil-a?


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19335388 - 12/28/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It'd not fact, only Jehovah's Witness and Mormon's (not officially Christian despite the names) have any edited scriptures. Catholics include the apocryphal texts to the bible in a separate section. All authorised translations used the same texts to translate from. These are agreed upon due to their consistency with each other and earliest available texts. currently the Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest extant versions predating previous versions by about 700 years. These are Old Testament only though. Earliest extant NT texts dates from approximately 200 AD/CE. You will note this is more than a century before the Council of Nicea, a moment that many anti-theists will say the books of the bible were altered to suit various agendas. Using texts well and truly pre-dating this event as canon, I'm sure all will agree, nullifies this hypothesis.

All texts used must fit criteria before being authorised for translation. The criteria include authenticity, accuracy of content, appropriate dating, widely accepted by early church.

And If I'm not mistaken the Vatican holds quite a few of these in their vaults.

I hope this clarifies any confusion :smile:


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    #19335670 - 12/28/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19336035 - 12/28/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It'd not fact, only Jehovah's Witness and Mormon's (not officially Christian despite the names) have any edited scriptures. Catholics include the apocryphal texts to the bible in a separate section.




I don't think you are correct that they are in a separate section, those books/writings occur in various different parts of the Catholic Old Testament. Separate section or not though, to a Catholic they're part of the Bible and to a Protestant they're not.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: psi]
    #19336117 - 12/28/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Earliest extant NT texts dates from approximately 200 AD/CE



Or 150 years after anyone who actually knew firsthand the stories being told - who could raise their hand and say :lolwut: walked on water? You hittin the pipe, Luke?


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19336147 - 12/28/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Adam and Eve is a metaphor.. how the hell did this thread reach 6 pages


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: GEncore]
    #19336164 - 12/28/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Religion based discussion.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: GEncore]
    #19336194 - 12/28/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Adam and Eve is a metaphor.. how the hell did this thread reach 6 pages




It's your page display settings, the thread really only just started into its second page.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: psi]
    #19336200 - 12/28/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A metaphor for what?


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    #19336299 - 12/28/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's open to interpretation obviously, but I would say one core idea is that as humans we are burdened by our intelligence in a sense, and that if we don't actively choose to act in a moral way things can go to shit very quickly. Animals that rely more on instinct don't really face the same kinds of dilemmas and choices. The pain of childbirth is a concrete result of this "burden of intelligence;" childbirth is riskier for humans than it is for a lot of other mammals because our heads are so gigantic.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
    #19336326 - 12/28/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just read through all of this. I like the part about jesus fucking his mother and giving birth to himself.:grin:

I'm not a huge jesus basher but its hard to take the bible literally with a straight face.
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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: psi]
    #19336331 - 12/28/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How is the bible going to preach thou shall not kill or steal. Be a good person this and that when man steals the apple. God mass murders millions.


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    #19336563 - 12/28/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As others have said, the Bible was written by various different people so it's not really all that consistent.


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It's open to interpretation obviously, but I would say one core idea is that as humans we are burdened by our intelligence in a sense, and that if we don't actively choose to act in a moral way things can go to shit very quickly. Animals that rely more on instinct don't really face the same kinds of dilemmas and choices. The pain of childbirth is a concrete result of this "burden of intelligence;" childbirth is riskier for humans than it is for a lot of other mammals because our heads are so gigantic.




Have you ever seen a horse or cow drop out of a cow vag? Heads ain't nothing compared to four gangly legs. Human also are born earlier in their development than many mammals, which pop out and can run around in an hour.


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Re: sooo believers of adam and eve.. [Re: koods]
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Earliest extant NT texts dates from approximately 200 AD/CE



Or 150 years after anyone who actually knew firsthand the stories being told - who could raise their hand and say :lolwut: walked on water? You hittin the pipe, Luke?




I think you mis-understand the term term extant.


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It's open to interpretation obviously, but I would say one core idea is that as humans we are burdened by our intelligence in a sense, and that if we don't actively choose to act in a moral way things can go to shit very quickly. Animals that rely more on instinct don't really face the same kinds of dilemmas and choices. The pain of childbirth is a concrete result of this "burden of intelligence;" childbirth is riskier for humans than it is for a lot of other mammals because our heads are so gigantic.




Have you ever seen a horse or cow drop out of a cow vag? Heads ain't nothing compared to four gangly legs. Human also are born earlier in their development than many mammals, which pop out and can run around in an hour.




Ok, but so what? For humans the head is the big challenge.


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