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AngryPhil
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Physics makes us all it's bitches

#12493858 - 05/02/10 04:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You, me, everyone and everything are perfectly calculated chemical reactions. This moment, the past, and the future were exactly determined at the moment of the big bang, or likely before that. You ability to make choices is an illusion. Each person is the result of the way they were born combined with the life they were put through, neither of which they had any control over. To judge others is to judge the entire universe, of which you are a part. To hate others is to hate yourself. To love yourself entirely is to love the entire universe. To understand everything is to forgive everything.

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Icelander
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: AngryPhil]
#12493873 - 05/02/10 04:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I judge the Universe FAIL :satansmoking:

:satansmoking:

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DieCommie

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: AngryPhil]
#12493877 - 05/02/10 04:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

This moment, the past, and the future were exactly determined at the moment of the big bang

That directly conflicts the theories of physics. In physics, this moment is not exactly determined by the moment before it.

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Icelander
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12493893 - 05/02/10 04:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hey man! You don't have to understand thangs to criticize em. :awewtf:

:awewtf:

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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DieCommie

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: Icelander]
#12493915 - 05/02/10 04:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Thats true, I do that too much probably.

I know this thread is about more than just physics, but Im a one trick pony and thats all I got. :shrug:

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AngryPhil
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12493916 - 05/02/10 04:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

DieCommie said:

Quote:

This moment, the past, and the future were exactly determined at the moment of the big bang

That directly conflicts the theories of physics. In physics, this moment is not exactly determined by the moment before it.

You could be right, but science hasn't concluded that either way yet. I personally don't think there are any variables that "I" have control over. I don't see where that would be necessary.

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Icelander
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12493955 - 05/02/10 04:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Science doesn't draw final conclusions.

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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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AngryPhil
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: Icelander]
#12493989 - 05/02/10 04:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Science doesn't draw final conclusions.
True, let me rephrase

You could be right, but we'll never know so it doesn't matter. I personally don't think there are any variables that "I" have control over. I don't see where that would be necessary.

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Icelander
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494161 - 05/02/10 05:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

We have "control" over very few things, if any.

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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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MushroomTrip
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: AngryPhil]
#12494276 - 05/02/10 05:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

AngryPhil said:

You could be right, but we'll never know so it doesn't matter.

Hence your thread was in vain.

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AngryPhil
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494356 - 05/02/10 06:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

MushroomTrip said:

AngryPhil said:

You could be right, but we'll never know so it doesn't matter.

Hence your thread was in vain.

What it comes down to, as is the point of this thread, is that no human can rightfully be judged by another human. That is an opinion, but it is an opinion backed by many of the wisest philosophers, including Buddha and Jesus. I believe that the adoption of that view into my life has made me happier, and that it will do the same for anyone else who adopts it.

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494371 - 05/02/10 06:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

What exactly do you understand by rightful and how can you possibly know what will make every other human happy?

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AngryPhil
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494381 - 05/02/10 06:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

MushroomTrip said:

What exactly do you understand by rightful and how can you possibly know what will make every other human happy?

Doesn't matter, take it or don't

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494400 - 05/02/10 06:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You're the one who made this thread and I thought you were willing to explain your point if view. Guess not. :shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494414 - 05/02/10 06:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

MushroomTrip said:

You're the one who made this thread and I thought you were willing to explain your point if view. Guess not.

:rofl2:

so naive

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circastes
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494532 - 05/02/10 06:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Did anyone ever stop to think that since determinism is out, maybe the universe intended to create life and Earth is a good example, probably one of many many many examples? Hmm... and what about as above so below? If we're created from matter then there's no discontinuity - matter is alive as well.

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12494920 - 05/02/10 07:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

OF MONTREAL FTW

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DieCommie

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: circastes]
#12494998 - 05/02/10 08:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

circastes said:

Did anyone ever stop to think that since determinism is out, maybe the universe intended to create life and Earth is a good example, probably one of many many many examples? Hmm... and what about as above so below?

I dont see how lack of a strict determinism implies purposeful creation of life by 'the universe'.

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AngryPhil
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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

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#12495168 - 05/02/10 08:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

MushroomTrip said:

You're the one who made this thread and I thought you were willing to explain your point if view. Guess not.

I kinda have the feeling that any further explanation I offer you is only going to lead to more irrelevant debate over definitions and semantics. It wasn't worded flawlessly, but anyone who'd get anything useful out of my post would have gotten it in the form that it's in.

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Re: Physics makes us all it's bitches

[Re: AngryPhil]
#12495194 - 05/02/10 08:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

AngryPhil said:

I kinda have the feeling that any further explanation I offer you is only going to lead to more irrelevant debate over definitions and semantics.

In other words, you don't know what you are talking about, and now we know that.

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