Khaos said:

Oh so your trying to do like a giant cased BRF cake then basically right?
Just using other colonized BRF to spawn it correct?
If so that does make some big differences. I was thinking you were casing grains. For the most part its gonna be similar though.

I don't like spawning BRF/verm because it contaminates far too easy when not sealed in a jar IMOE.
Can be done though.
Sterilize your un-colonized BRF/verm. 
Just use a glove box/still air box and crumble the colonized BRF spawn over the layers of un-colonized BRF substrate. If using those regular mouth jars you'll have to use a sterile spoon to spoon it out of the jar. Once you have all your layers of substrate and spawn layed out in the pan cover with foil. If there isn't much space left in the top I would probably poke a dozen small slits with a razor blade. leave it alone for about 10 days then give it a quick peek to see if the top layer is fully colonized. After that I'd give it a few consolidation days.

And in that case I would then just carefully turn the pan upside down, pop it out of the pan. Then dunk it for 6 hours and just roll it in verm.
I would basically treat it like a giant PF cake.

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Why would you do this, Not only do giant cakes preform worse then smaller cakes spawning to uncolonized BRF is down right risky. Why not spawn to Manure/verm/gypsum or coir/berm/gypsum.

Khaos said:

Remember, 1-2 CC's/ML's per half pint.
Shake well before every jar and i like to give a little shake between each hole to insure even spore deposit.

And watch a good sterile inoculation video for a visual experience.
Such as the Rabbits PF jar videos if you haven't already seen them.

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Its 1 cc per jar and you never shake the jar after inoculation

To the OP, Dont spawn your cakes to more BRF and also dont crumble and case the,. I would fruit them as is Cakes preform better if they were cased. You can spawn them to bulk like manure or coir. Also for now on I would be a bit wary of Khaos advice

Shea25 said:

Khaos said:

Remember, 1-2 CC's/ML's per half pint.
Shake well before every jar and i like to give a little shake between each hole to insure even spore deposit.

And watch a good sterile inoculation video for a visual experience.
Such as the Rabbits PF jar videos if you haven't already seen them.

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Its 1 cc per jar and you never shake the jar after inoculation

To the OP, Dont spawn your cakes to more BRF and also dont crumble and case the,. I would fruit them as is Cakes preform better if they were cased. You can spawn them to bulk like manure or coir. Also for now on I would be a bit wary of Khaos advice

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Shea25 said:

Khaos said:

Remember, 1-2 CC's/ML's per half pint.
Shake well before every jar and i like to give a little shake between each hole to insure even spore deposit.

And watch a good sterile inoculation video for a visual experience.
Such as the Rabbits PF jar videos if you haven't already seen them.

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Its 1 cc per jar and you never shake the jar after inoculation

To the OP, Dont spawn your cakes to more BRF and also dont crumble and case the,. I would fruit them as is Cakes preform better if they were cased. You can spawn them to bulk like manure or coir. Also for now on I would be a bit wary of Khaos advice

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I was referring to shaking the syringe not the jar.
(What kinda idiot would try shaking a PF jar anyway? )
For PF 1/2 pint 2cc's is a little overkill I personally use 1.5cc's just my preference. Works great for me.

As said:

Khaos said:

I don't like spawning BRF/verm because it contaminates far too easy when not sealed in a jar IMOE.
Can be done though.

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I agree that spawning manure/coir would be a better choice, in fact up until my previous bit of advice I thought he was planning on doing WBS spawn.

I certainly would go a different route, but he wants to get going on it right away with the materials he has. With the BRF regular mouth jars this is one of very few options he has. So therefor I gave him the advice to go about this route.

I beg to disagree. My preferred route (for cubes anyway) is rye spawn to Hpoo/straw+coir. But in my experience giant cakes in spawn bags have been much more efficient to me than jars, however this is like most things is a personal outcome and may differ for others.

I do apologize but I wanted insure my advice was interpreted in the correct context that I intended its meaning to be.

And to shea again specifically:
I do hope you didn't read that with my words being in a snotty voice in your head as that was not the tone I intended. I've been reading this forum for years and since you joined I've always thought your advice was very decent and accurate IMHO.

Shea25 said:

Its 1 cc per jar

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i did 2cc per jar for no real reason. and although i regret it, seeing as i could have knocked up 10 jars instead of 5, every single one is doing better than expected (first grow).

ph34r said:

I've decided to just wait til my wide mouth jars come

In the future I am definitely going to look into spawning to bulk though. Seems cakes are relatively easy but don't produce that large of a yield. Is there a technique that shows considerable quantity grows but is still relatively easy?

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Smart man.
My favorite routes to go are:
Depending on species.
(Remember these are my opinions.)

Agar wedge to Rye berry spawn.
Rye spawn to Hpoo/coir or straw with gypsum.
Cased with with Verm/peat with hydrated lime (calcium carbonate is more practical for most people as HL can be difficult to work with and requires an accurate PH meter).
Kept in a mostly self sustaining Martha/greenhouse setup.

For relatively little work and big yield I like to go,
Agar wedge to Rye berry spawn.
Rye spawn to straw in a industrial garbage bag.
Fruited in a massive SGFC with a cool mist.
(I love cultivating PE this way).

Of course if you live in the proper regions its possible to cultivate in your yard and IMHO the hardest part of that is just making sure you harvest before they over mature.

Just my opinions, what works for me may not work for other.