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Old timers straw tek UPDATED 1/10
    #496450 - 12/19/01 11:57 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Here is some pics of my friends progress:

Setup:



Tubs have about half inch of perlite on the bottom just to catch any excess water that may collect. Temps are around 75-80 and humidity seems to be up around 100%, although there is no condensation on the sides. No other sources of humidity are needed apparently. The damp straw seems to keep it very humid in there. Keep your fingers crossed that everything will work out right.

Day one growth:



As you can see, not much to talk about yet. Hopefully, I can keep daily updates of my friends progress so anyone wishing to use this tek can learn from his success or failure. Keep watching.


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Re: Old timers straw tek day one pics [Re: bassplayer74]
    #496456 - 12/20/01 12:01 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

warning: your bedroom is going to smell somewhat like rotting straw soon.

Be care when you open the container, condensed water will be on the lid and will pour out the end you tilt it.

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Re: Old timers straw tek day one pics [Re: djfrog]
    #496459 - 12/20/01 12:04 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

ya...he figured that so he bought a bunch of incense.


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Re: Old timers straw tek day one pics [Re: bassplayer74]
    #496479 - 12/20/01 12:27 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Great post.
Promises to be informative.

I'll keep watching


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #497181 - 12/20/01 07:47 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

This is a pic of growth after about 36 hours:



You can notice how some of the larger pieces of the crumbled pf cake have rebounded pretty strong. Upon closer inspection my friend says that he can notice mycelium spreading all over the straw. Just the larger pieces are noticeable in the pic however. He wanted me to point out that this was the first of the four tubs he innoculated and did not finely crumble the cakes into a complete powder. He did a better job on the other three tubs so he said he will email me some pics of those soon too. He said the mycelium in the other three tubs is more finely crumbled and dispersed. He just wanted to show the progress of one tub over the course of a week or so to help other people who are interested in this tek. He feels like thats the least he could do to pay this community of shroomerites back for all their fine advice. Even if something goes wrong, he is still thankful. ;-)

Take care and keep watching...

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #497223 - 12/20/01 08:40 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the posted pics!

There seems to be much new found interest in the sraw methods it seems. I honestly believe that It's the best way to go.

It's awesome to see more straw teks on the net. I really believe that it's the foundation of the best TEK.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Jammer]
    #497567 - 12/21/01 04:45 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

but what about the straw? where do you get all the straw??


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Amoeba665]
    #497618 - 12/21/01 05:42 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Do you guys think hay will work ? Wich kind of straw did you use ?

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: MAIA]
    #497655 - 12/21/01 08:53 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

no hay wont work


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #497666 - 12/21/01 09:42 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Great setup! Have your friend keep us posted on his/her progress.

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498106 - 12/21/01 08:18 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Here is a pic after about 60 hours:



My friend needs some advice now. He said the mycelium is spreading a little but for the most part it just seems to be getting cottony and just staying in clumps and not really spreading well at all. He is wondering why because he followed directions pefectly. Temp is 75-80. He knows thats a little low but thats all he can get it up to. Humidity is around 100% and he is not fanning. There may be a tiny amount of light penetrating though the walls of his tubs. He thinks this might be the problem. Please help him before its too late. He would like to see the rapid mycelium growth that has been talked about. He feels like this straw should be colonizing way faster because he used crumbled up pf cake. Anyway, will someone please give some words of advice? Thanks

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498108 - 12/21/01 08:21 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Your straw is most likely to wet try to fan for a few days I am sure it will help


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498114 - 12/21/01 08:31 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I think that you made a typo. You said that the temp is at 100%. Asuming that you meant to say 100% HUMIDITY ... I think that the previous reply about it being too wet just might be a possibility. At this stage too much humidity can really slow things down. Try 92% to 95% for a day or two and see what happens. (just for "shits & giggles")


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Jammer]
    #498121 - 12/21/01 08:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for catching my error....I fixed it...I will tell my friend to fan for awhile and maybe even leave the top of the tub cracked open a bit. Will letting a little light in there hurt the mycelium growth. He doesnt want to initiate pinning yet but he wants to drop the humidy a little. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498141 - 12/21/01 09:08 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

ot specifies finely ground pf cakes, like flour.
not crumbled chunks.
that's one big reason yours is slow compared to ot.
he has hundreds more points from which growth spreads.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Hippie3]
    #498148 - 12/21/01 09:22 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

*nods*
I'm at about the same place as your friend, bassplayer.. mine is more colonized though, because I used a coffee grinder to grind up my cakes and spread them throughout the straw. Can't wait to get some flushes outta this! Straw = best! I love working with straw. I love the smell, too. hah.
What strain is your friend trying to grow? TC, here.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Hippie3]
    #498150 - 12/21/01 09:23 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Whoa!

Very good call dude!

I just re-read the post and he did say "crumbled pf cake"....

Crumbled cakes would likely resort in MUCH longer conlinzation times (weeks/months - depending on amount of straw to spawn)


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498212 - 12/21/01 11:13 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

great post. i can smell those tubs from here. mmmmmmmm


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
    #498221 - 12/21/01 11:22 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Hey bassplayer, I too am interested in the old timers straw tek but for some reason every time I try to look it up all I get is text saying we cannot proceed...... I'll contact Thor here at the shroomery to see if he can fix the problem but in the mean time how many jars of cakes are you using to spawn the straw in each container if you dont mind my asking?

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Hollywood]
    #498276 - 12/22/01 12:33 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i know of someone who is growing with straw. she got it in a kit from mushbox.com, it is an awesom kit but only ships within canada. the kit comes with a jar of innoculated
grain(rye?), a bag of straw, a mini greehouse(cool!), casing mix and casing starter. she is trying to reproduce the kit for herself, but has no idea what casing starter is. it looks like peat moss, is supposed to be kept refridgerated, and comes in a little vial... any ideas what this is ? or is it unnessisary?


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74] * 1
    #498279 - 12/22/01 12:37 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Ok everybody. Hope you all are having a happy holiday season so far. I'm using classic pf strain. I used 2 half pint cakes per tub. I just got back from wal-mart. I bought a blender and another tub for my friend. He is going to try and air out his tubs a bit and start a new tub at the same time. This time he will let his straw drain overnight and blend his cakes into a powder. He is wanting a "fast" colonization so he will do 4 cakes in this next tub. He is wondering if it would help to add a small amount of vermiculite to the blender to help powderize the cakes. He noticed last time, when he crumbled the cakes, they were wet and pasty. Also, how long do you guys recommend he let the straw drain before innoculation? He has a layer of perlite in the bottom of his current tubs. He ran out of it so on this new tub he will not use anything for a bottom layer. He will just make sure the straw is barely damp. Does all this sound kosher to ya'll? I also just wanted to say a big "THANK YOU" and Merry Christmas to all here at the shroomery. Especially, those who have helped me and "my friend" out with this project. I will definitely keep all posted daily. With pics. Take care.

bassplayer74

BTW...My friend was also going to pasteurize some more straw, mix with powderized pf cake, and place in large black plastic garbage bags with a bunch of holes poked in them. He was gonna set these bags aside and wait for them to colonize, then put in tubs. Is this a waste of time? He just thought they might colonize faster. He was also gonna try not casing one tub just to see how much he would still get. Is this a bad idea? I know I just keep going on and on but....I also read somewhere that classic pf strain is not the best on straw. Is this true? And if so, what IS the best strain for straw? Thanks!!


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: YouInfoIt]
    #498354 - 12/22/01 01:53 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that the casing starter is activated charcoal. Supposedly, sprinkle a bit on and it kicks the casing into pin mode, I guess...


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Brugman]
    #498383 - 12/22/01 02:22 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

cool, do you know where to find it?


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498386 - 12/22/01 02:34 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I honestly think you didn't use enough spawn in your straw...After two days, the straw should be, for the most part, completely white. Although straw doesn't contaminate as fast as other substrates, you still need to be careful. Slow growth under non-sterile conditions means trouble because this gives contaminants a head start. It still may work, but there's a chance it won't. I recommend you use more spawn for the next batches.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498661 - 12/22/01 04:48 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Well, It looks like the mycelium has stopped growing. It even has dissappeared in most places. There is still some growth near the bottom where is was more wet though. New batches will be underway shortly. My friend still has another case of fully colonized jars to use. I've read everything on this tek but if anyone has any little "tricks" to make it better, please let me know. Merry Christmas!

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498683 - 12/22/01 05:07 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

SHIT! i was going to try oldtimers tek tomorrow but recently i hear a lot of failure coming from straw lately. if anyone has the trick to moisture content or how to get this to work please PM me; please. maybe i should try cutting up the straw finer to get more of a 'cake' consistency and not so much open room? i might also try adding damp vermiculite to it and see what happens. o well thanks all in advance and have a merry x-mas! its 5pm and im going home to smoke a blunt. peace


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: BeppoMarx]
    #498689 - 12/22/01 05:12 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'm a big fan of straw teks, however every straw tek that I have seen was extremely slow at colinizing. However, I have never seen this tek done before. Based on the description it could be a fast method. (as other members have previosly stated)

Looking at those pics, I too am wondering if there was enough spawn used.... Or maybe it's slowing down due to the fact that the cakes were crumbled, not grounded up as the Old Timers Straw Tek calls for.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Jammer]
    #498722 - 12/22/01 06:05 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

My friend just got done innoculating a new batch of straw. He coated the straw with four cakes worth of pf powder. If this doesn't work he's gonna get ticked. During the last attempt he kept the lid on the tubs completely closed, which kept humidity around 100%. He's not sure if he should crack the lid a bit to drop humidity. He's afraid it may dry out. Any suggestions? He's also wondering if the tiny amount of light entering the tub will slow colonization. Should he cover the tubs with something dark? C-ya

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #498782 - 12/22/01 07:44 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

He's not sure if he should crack the lid a bit to drop humidity. Yes if it is failing now what could it hurt?? Have you tried fanning?? You are being to impatient with this you post daily concerned about this tek You are rushing it fan sit back RELAX

He's also wondering if the tiny amount of light entering the tub will slow colonization. The darker the better (at least when it comes to mushrooms and colonization)

Should he cover the tubs with something dark? YES C-ya


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: dimitri211]
    #498959 - 12/23/01 12:00 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I read earlier in this thread that you should expect the room to start having the stank of rotting straw. I would like to start a straw tek myself, but dont want an unbearable stank in my house. How bad do tubs of colonising straw smell?


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: homebrew]
    #499210 - 12/23/01 11:08 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

there should be no smell except perhaps a faint musty wet-straw odor.
if properly done, the straw should be fully colonized in about 5 days, so i just cover the trays with foil, which lets a little air exchange occur, but keeps humidity high.
for lots more info on ot's straw tek,
see http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/2673.html?1005195934


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: dimitri211]
    #499423 - 12/23/01 05:59 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks dimitri211. You're right. I'll just chill for awhile. My friends new tub seems to be ok. The other tubs seem to have stopped growing though. Probably due to the fact that the cakes were not completely powderized and I think we let them get too dry for too long. The straw on top is dry and has no growth at all. I'll post a pic of the new tub in a few days.

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #499461 - 12/23/01 07:00 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

You'll get it right without a doubt, if the top layer is dry then close the lid for the night and chaeck it in the morning if it is still very dry mist a little on the top later only with peroxide and water combination


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: dimitri211]
    #499604 - 12/23/01 09:49 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Friends wombat had to recase straw because itused Hawks 50/50 + but that's too much damn lime and the myc were afraid of it. it was pretty wet onthe bottom and fearing aneroibc bacteria, picked up the whole mass of straw and flipped it over and recased. Growth is quick and spreading. Bout ready to initiate pinning.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Hippie3]
    #502612 - 12/27/01 07:34 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone tried grinding rye berries to powder like the OT tek wants? A friend likes working with rye much more than brf/verm. If none have tried she'll go out and get a coffee grinder and try it.

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: biobush]
    #503424 - 12/28/01 06:19 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

the problem with grinding rye is the uncolonized interior of the berries will quickly contam if exposed to unsterile air.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #508897 - 01/03/02 02:24 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Any updates?


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Jammer]
    #508955 - 01/03/02 03:32 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yes...We must have made a mistake because the mycelium never really grew like it should. It was real fluffy. And then when we gave it some fresh air it all dried up and stopped growing. We decided to just birth the rest of our cakes via pf tek and try old timers tek again later on. The tub we innoculated with 4 powderized pf cakes was the worst. It never even tried to start colonizing. Bummer huh? These cakes were powderized in a blender very finely and mixed with damp straw that had been pasteurized at 160F for an hour. I have no idea why there was no growth. The cakes that we used were perfect. We followed directions perfectly too. Oh well.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #508976 - 01/03/02 03:45 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

That reminds me. My friend just bought a horse for his liveing room. Can anyone name some popular feed stores that sell straw? (the horse did a search and came up with nothing in the area)

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Jammer]
    #508988 - 01/03/02 03:57 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

You should feed him mushrooms, and name him Mr. Ed! Maybe he'll start talking to you...

After many attempts at locating Straw, dude had to take a trip way out into the burbs to finally locate it at a nursery. Pull out the yellow pages and look under nurseries(be sure to call them ALL---only 1 out of the 6 dude called had it)...


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #512796 - 01/07/02 02:42 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

None of my straw colonized hardly at all. Some small patches grew but it never colonized like it was supposed to. I cant quite figure out exactly what I did wrong. Here's exactly what I did again, please tell me if you think you know where I screwed up.

First I cooked some straw in a metal wash tub at 160F for an hour. Then I let it cool and drain for several hours. Then I laid out about 4 or 5 inches of it in a big tub and sprinkled pf cake powder all over it and mixed in completely. Kept temp around 75F(thats as high as I could get it). And for humidity all I did was keep the lids on the tubs. The walls of the tub stayed wet. I waited and waited and only got VERY minimal growth after like 10 days. Now its been almost 3 weeks and the small patches that did grow have died. Weird huh? The only thing I can think to do to help next time is to maybe cover the straw with a sheet of plastic with holes in it. Other than that, I am at a loss. I thought I did everything right. I guess not. Now, I'm just trying to get the remainder of my pf cakes to fruit and I cant even get them to pin. I guess I just suck. Well, I can't say that because I have fruited cakes before and had great results. For some reason this time its just not working. The only difference is when I had success before I was using a humidifier and this time I'm just using damp verm to keep the humidity high. Any help you can offer would be awesome.

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #512824 - 01/07/02 03:17 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

My friends are now reprting much success with this STRAW TEK.

I'm starting to think that you either had some suckey ass straw (most prefer wheat straw) perhaps it was just too dry an enviroment.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #512831 - 01/07/02 03:34 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

My thoughts: You don't need to blend the mycellium. Clumps are fine. If you break the cakes too much, you'll slow the mycelliums regrowth and expose more surface area to contaminats. Remember after you crumble cakes/ and before the mycellium covers the exposed nutrients there is a higher chance of contams.

Using larger chunks, the mycellium would spread more locally but you can mix the straw every two days or so to split the growing chunks up.

As far as wetness of the straw, it seems a no briainer. After pasteurizing in water, strain it overnight and squeeze it out in a tshirt style bag. When nothing drips off the squeezing, then its right.

Also, be careful about raising the temp to high. What happens is that straw/hay get real hot on their own when you stack it. Its metabolizing or something. Overheating will encourage contams and dry out the mycellium.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #512873 - 01/07/02 05:06 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

View my hay tray post under pictures. Let me know if you need more info.

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: bassplayer74]
    #512915 - 01/07/02 07:20 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I have used several diffent strains with this method at the same time under the same perameters with different results.. have had B+ side by side with PESA and watched the B+ go to shit while the PESA takes off, that is because the PESA is very vigorous and spreads like a mofo, it was climbing the walls; and the B+ that I was using was some dead, slow ass degenerate mycelium. It really does help to use a healthier strain with straw, and you know your mycelium is healthy when it fluffs out and look like a marshmellow in its jars, PESA is very good like this. So are Cambodians. That would be my first advice, also do not 'blend', that is bad... you are setting yourself up for failure by 'blending'.. do not use a coffee grinder, that is the same thing as 'blending'... . The only 'correct way is to 'chop' the cakes with a chopper, or food proccessor, like OT says, 'cornmeal consistancy', no shortcuts ok. Thirdly, dont forget to soak your straw overnight before you pasturize. Finally, be sure to place a peice of seran wrap over the top of the straw while its spawning, tuck it into the sides, poke a few holes in it... this helps, and may actually be critical to the process. keep the temps in the 80's during this part of the process. I am sorry to hear of your negative results with ot tek, I have seen what you describe happen also, I would say again most importantly to get a vigorous strain and it will spread into its host. If you are willing to try again I will send you some pesa prints to work with; PM me if you are interested.

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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: Anonymous]
    #513383 - 01/07/02 05:27 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

There is another awesome post with pics of another member's straw tek (I believe it was Joshuwa)- where he grinded up the mycelium with a blender and within a week it's white as cotton!!

The thread has the word "hay" in the title, when in reality he is useing wheat straw. Based on those pics it apears to be MUCH faster than the crumble cake method.


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: djfrog]
    #513396 - 01/07/02 05:38 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Check out this thread with pics of what straw can look like when inoculated with a blended up B plus cake:

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Pictures&Number=512646&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Jammer&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=507639

I hope the URL works, it seems to have my handle imbeded in it from this end.


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Old timers straw tek *pics*UPDATE 1/10 [Re: bassplayer74]
    #516397 - 01/10/02 03:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Hi all,

Next attemp at oldtimers tek has been on a smaller scale. 1 small Rubbermaid filled with about 2-3 inches of straw. Used 2 pf cakes for innoculation. This time, a piece of aluminum foil with holes in it has been placed directly on top of the straw. This seems to make all the difference. This pic was taken after only 2 days. It's just about "bricked out".



Cool huh? Now if we can just get the casing right... BTW, the cakes that we birthed into rubbermaid tubs almost 2 weeks ago still have not changed in appearance at all. We are using classic pf strain. Temp 75F and Humidity 95-98%. Once a day fanning. Any suggestions? Thanks


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Re: Old timers straw tek progress *pics* [Re: MAIA]
    #644251 - 05/25/02 03:43 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Hay is so much more nutritous,that it almost aways is overcome by contams.I use wheat straw as first choice


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