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InvisibleinfidelGOD
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Peace and Religion
    #1194073 - 01/05/03 10:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

will never coexist.


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OfflineStrumpling
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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1194086 - 01/05/03 10:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well it doesn't look like religion's going anywhere, so thats a big bummer.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1194309 - 01/06/03 01:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hmm...if there were no religions, would there be any more or less peace?
which causes more disturbances in the world - religion or greed (for power or wealth)?



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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: mr crisper]
    #1194474 - 01/06/03 04:05 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Its the nature of belief which brings about violence. Religion is usually based on beliefs, and when you have people with conflicting beliefs, you will inevitably have conflicting actions. So the resolution is to never believe anything and to always be open to explore ideas. Simple as that.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: mr crisper]
    #1194557 - 01/06/03 05:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Religion isn't solely responsible for human conflict, certainly greed and hatred (the non-religious variety) contribute to it. But my point was that religions, as they exist today, preclude the possibility of world peace.

Religion legitimizes hatred (sinners deserve death), it encourages conquest (gotta spread the word!), it turns us vs. them into good vs. evil (GW anyone?), it devalues life with promises of "rewards in heaven" (suicide bombers).

Religion divides us. All we want is brotherhood and unity. Isn't that the way things should be? Isn't that what Jesus taught?

Religion is the antithesis of Christ's teachings.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1194561 - 01/06/03 05:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The Anti-Christ has come and it is us.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: Strumpling]
    #1194568 - 01/06/03 05:12 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

No, I disagree. Religion is a dying beast. It'll still be hundreds of years before it's anywhere near dead, but thought is beginning to replace faith.

This is not a quick revolutionary process, it started about 300 years ago, and it has taken that long to get to the current situation.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: Phluck]
    #1194820 - 01/06/03 02:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

excellent! wake me up when this terrible dream we've gotten ourselves into is all over :wink: it'll be time to party.

Beers and Cheers all around!


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: Phluck]
    #1195431 - 01/06/03 05:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Actually it started over 2,000 years ago and it is not likely that religion will ever go away. Man is too simple minded to give up superstition, ever.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1195435 - 01/06/03 05:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is wonderful that you came back!!!!!!

Things have changed a bit. Please read the "Be Nice" policy!

Yes, we have met the enemy and it is us.

Peace and mankind will never co-exist.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: ]
    #1195474 - 01/06/03 06:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Peace and mankind will never co-exist.



We exist in a plane of duality.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: Adamist]
    #1195493 - 01/06/03 06:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

We exist in a plane of duality.

I wouldn't have it any other way.  :smirk:


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1196380 - 01/07/03 12:47 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

true, so what?


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1197997 - 01/07/03 02:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Religion will never die out because people are always going to be looking for guidance.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: Zahid]
    #1198121 - 01/07/03 03:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Religion will never die out because people are always going to be looking for guidance.

People can learn to guide themselves.  :wink:


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1198179 - 01/07/03 03:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I totally agree with you infidelGOD

religion is a fuckin headache

and i think its kinda foolish to say a condition of humanity will never exist. Anything is quite possible with our fancy little brains.
sooner or later a majority of people will begin to love themselves.

change seems to speed up with advances in communication.

actually its also quite possible that we may destroy ourselves first but lets not think about that, eh?




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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: Zahid]
    #1200350 - 01/08/03 11:30 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if religion will ever "die out" or not. I just want to believe that there is so much more in store for humankind if we can just let go of our ...attachments... we need not give up our spirituality or our relationship with God. We just need to ... evolve - and religion is holding us back.

Many will disagree but I believe that a loving God truly would not want us to believe in Him. He would want us to be left to our own devices, to know that we are the masters of our destiny, and if we can't handle it, we are not worthy. It's like a mother bird waiting for the child to spread its wings and take flight for the first time, no looking back, no safety net but the sky's the limit.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1200412 - 01/08/03 11:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

"religion" is just a set of organize beliefs set by a certain group or organization. and thus is the conforming to certain thought. this in turn is ignorance(is this what you guys were getting at?). religion hasnt been the worst thing to hit the planet, its just another example of humans incapability to be responsible for their own actions, another crutch, another excuse for what they did wrong and tried to hide. Our government/economical system has been our arch support through this madness, its been through people in search of people who "above all desire power" :wink: . so i say if your going to take away religion why waste your time? destroy our economical/governmental. people plain and simply need to be free and accept the unknown. people hide in their big cities with their sky scraping walls never to see the world, driving their cars to make the sky harder to see. this world has been created by people unwanting to see and accept the truth. we all need to find our own religion lol and it cant have any bounds but the "rules" you find to guide you to truth and understanding. whats seen in religions is not necessarily wrong, its what is used with the information, how its manipulated and implanted psychologically into the people who accept it.


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1200601 - 01/08/03 12:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think that something is being overlooked.

Human beings seemed prone to attacking each other whom are differant from the others. Such as black people in the US, turks Vs. Kurds. ect.

Only after humans can but aside such differances can people of differant reliagons be expected to get along.

Before that could happen though I think alot of people would have to realize that religion is a tool to unite with the universe. That would insult many people as people tend to equate themselves to their religion, sports team, and political party. So questioning the religion means you question them.

I think a better statement might be: "Peace and human arrogence will never co-exist."


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Re: Peace and Religion [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1201317 - 01/08/03 04:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I don't know if religion will ever "die out" or not. I just want to believe that there is so much more in store for humankind if we can just let go of our ...attachments... we need not give up our spirituality or our relationship with God. We just need to ... evolve - and religion is holding us back.

Many will disagree but I believe that a loving God truly would not want us to believe in Him. He would want us to be left to our own devices, to know that we are the masters of our destiny, and if we can't handle it, we are not worthy. It's like a mother bird waiting for the child to spread its wings and take flight for the first time, no looking back, no safety net but the sky's the limit.





A truly loving God would want all His creatures to believe in Him, because God is a treasure my friend; having faith in God - loving God, is all what this life is about. God should be the focus of every human being, for guidance and inspiration, but unfortunately He is not. If religion didn't exist, the loving, Merciful, Compassionate God I just spoke of would not be there for any man or women who desires guidance. For religious people, religion does not even exist. I'm not sure what's 'holding you back'.


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