MagicMaker said:

this is why I feel like people have such a pull towards live music, because they are helping reduce chaos in the world, with out even realizing it

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Does this include county music?

Newfound_wonder said:

Congratulations.  No one has found a system or process in which entropy decreases for as long as the laws of thermodynamics have been around.  Your findings are worth publishing in a prestigious journal.

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Icelander said:

MagicMaker said:

this is why I feel like people have such a pull towards live music, because they are helping reduce chaos in the world, with out even realizing it

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Does this include county music?

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MagicMaker said:

And the more people that hear it at once creates more order, that is why it is so amazing it is an "ordering" force in the universe like life.

Think about it, it vibrates the air at specific frequencies that we all interpret the same way.  It helps us think more similarly.  Just like life it self creates order when a sperm and and egg come together they start to order things to create an organism.

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The progress of the human race in understanding the universe has established a small corner of order in an increasingly disordered universe.  If you remember every word in this book, your memory will have recorded about two million pieces of information: the order in your brain will have increased by about two million units.  However, while you have been reading the book, you will have converted at least one thousand calories of ordered energy, in the form of food, into disordered energy, in the form of heat that you lose to the air around you by convection and sweat.  This will increase the disorder of the universe by about twenty million million million million units - or about ten million million million million times the increase in order in your brain - and thats if you remember everything in this book.

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However, while you have been reading the book, you will have converted at least one thousand calories of ordered energy, in the form of food, into disordered energy, in the form of heat that you lose to the air around you by convection and sweat.  This will increase the disorder of the universe by about twenty million million million million units - or about ten million million million million times the increase in order in your brain - and thats if you remember everything in this book." you would be

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MagicMaker said:

do you believe that life, sperm and egg coming together as anti entropic?

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yes, because the energy displaced by the male and female organisms in the process of connecting sperm and egg, and the amount of nutrition consumed by the new organism far outweighs the amount of ordered energy the new organism creates

as long as time is moving forward, entropy is happening, it physics man

deCypher said:

Too much order and we die though.  Life (and music) dance on that fine balance between too much order and too much chaos.

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MagicMaker said:

you would be using that amount of energy anyway if you were not reading the book, now this probably is not true as you might use a little less energy laying in the dark versus reading a book but, regardless you are always using energy

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WalterShabas said:

MagicMaker said:

you would be using that amount of energy anyway if you were not reading the book, now this probably is not true as you might use a little less energy laying in the dark versus reading a book but, regardless you are always using energy

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sorry, gotta disagree again

even if you were laying completely still in a dark silent room, with no sensory input or thoughts, your  body would still be creating entropy in the form of metabolism, you however, would not be creating nearly as much order in your brain

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MagicMaker said:

ok well im going to contradict myself now and say that this organism has to break down and use up energy so it can "order" itself, do you believe that all living things balance perfectly entropy and order? 

if you disagree then when does an organism start to become entropic in nature?  and now what if builds things...and now what if it destroys things

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MagicMaker said:

WalterShabas said:

MagicMaker said:

you would be using that amount of energy anyway if you were not reading the book, now this probably is not true as you might use a little less energy laying in the dark versus reading a book but, regardless you are always using energy

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sorry, gotta disagree again

even if you were laying completely still in a dark silent room, with no sensory input or thoughts, your  body would still be creating entropy in the form of metabolism, you however, would not be creating nearly as much order in your brain

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dont you think it depends on what things you are thinking about though? what if you were deriving math equations in your head that would help.....

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