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Second grow. Happy with Cambodians.
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This is my second grow and I am very happy with my Cambodian P. Cubensis that I am working with. While I had a blast with the Brazilian, I am having much more fun with the Cambos. simply because they are HUGE in comparison.







I got around 84 wet grams from the big cake that I harvested. :smile: I don't think that's too shabby for a noob.

I've read that Cambos are realitively potent, even though a cube is a cube. I have them drying right in front of me and I just want to eat-em!!! num nahm hamh :mushroom2:


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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Looks good! :super:


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: nexus1946]
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very good, should clone in lc. atleast print a few for future grows


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: oh_you_know]
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I am such a noob that just the sound of cloning in LC sounds intimidating. I took 2 smaller caps for prints because I didn't have the heart to rip the head off a big one. Right now I think I should focus on learning how to make a syringe. I am having a bit of trouble finding a good tek. How hard is it to make a syringe?


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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Don't dry them.  Eat them fresh.  They are much more potent fresh.

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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Isaacav3 said:
Right now I think I should focus on learning how to make a syringe. I am having a bit of trouble finding a good tek. How hard is it to make a syringe?


http://www.shroomery.org/26/Spore-Prints-Syringes


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: M11]
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M11 said:
Don't dry them.  Eat them fresh.  They are much more potent fresh.



I left this guy ...



His veil hasn't broken yet :shocked: I'm saving him for Sunday Night :smile: I'm going to eat him right out of the FC :crazy2:

I picked the other fruits on the other cake because the veil broke on them. I suppose I could have waited a bit longer but I wanted to be on the safe side.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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haha that's huge!


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: bootlegapparel]
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I'm in the middle of a Cambodian grow. I hope I get some monsters like that! Are you going to dunk and do more flushes?

I'm curious about what the trip is like! Congrats on some nice looking shrooms!


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: GeminiWolf]
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yea man thats a hella nice cake, congratz

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Fangaz420]
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Beautiful Cambodians, nice job. Do LC, or at least a ghetto culture slant. Its easier than growing a cake, plus you have fruitbodies so your culture will be a clone of that sub-strain. Keep up the good work!

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: M11]
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M11 said:
Don't dry them.  Eat them fresh.  They are much more potent fresh.


If dried correctly they dont lose potency. At least not a noticable amount.

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Dbb5]
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dont be intimidated! thats what has kept me from trying new things but its actually pretty easyyy.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Dbb5]
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Dbb5 said:
M11 said:
Don't dry them.  Eat them fresh.  They are much more potent fresh.


If dried correctly they dont lose potency. At least not a noticable amount.


Yes, this is true, but psilocin oxidizes during the drying process, therefore making dried shrooms less potent.

I would say that about 25 grams fresh equals about 3 grams dried in my experience.

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: M11]
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ill eat the extra half gram just because dried are alot easier to eat


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Arcanam]
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Arcanam said:
Beautiful Cambodians, nice job. Do LC, or at least a ghetto culture slant. Its easier than growing a cake, plus you have fruitbodies so your culture will be a clone of that sub-strain. Keep up the good work!



Thank you for the words of encouragement, I hope that I can learn the process for making LCs and monotubs soon. Honestly when I first started this hobby I wasn't thinking beyond pf cakes because I wasn't expecting as much success. I am bad at learning I just make up for it by doing alot of it. Honestly I am intimidated because I'm afraid that new processes will lead to contams and ruin my future grows. I'll try and make my fear a good thing by doing an excessive amount of research before I start something new.

Here is an updated pic I took of the guy I'm going to eat tonight :laugh:

The bluing is hopefully just bruising. I'm pretty confident that it is :crazy:



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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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ya thats bruising.

Cambodians are fun. Have some fruiting again now..

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: demonkinsin]
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Congrats!  Those are some monsters

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
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yes very very large


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: oh_you_know]
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Nice grow, how are the stems? Hallow or solid all the way through?


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Stusi]
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That is just an insane cake. A super cheap, super ghetto way is to mix vanilla karo or honey with water, 1:25 ratio then inoculate wih mycellia/tissue/spores.  :mushroom2:  Good vibes for the trip.  Liquid Culture Basics

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Arcanam]
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NICE DUDE :congrats:
you need to clone that big one :mushroomgrow:


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Cyanesense]
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Looking good keep it up :thumbup:

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Deadzygote6]
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Damn, my cambos look like thimble dicks compared to that!!!  I had maybe one or two fruits get that big.  For some reason I seem to get many small fruits instead of a few big ones.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: oh_you_know]
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oh_you_know said:
dont be intimidated! thats what has kept me from trying new things but its actually pretty easyyy.



this is true the biggest failure is never trying..
do a search on dunking as well to maximize your second and 3rd flush.
after I started dunking my second flush was often larger than my first


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: KandyKid]
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For some reason I seem to get many small fruits instead of a few big ones.


Most likely genetics! The Cambos I've cultivated were pretty normal in size. The genetics of his mushroom is just a big growing one.

If the Cambos are/were the only ones, that came out small it's not a problem of your set-up, but indeed, simply of genetics.

So if you have cultivated them by using a spore syringe, just knock up some jars with it and I'm pretty sure, the next ones will be at least normal in size!


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Fahkface]
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Nice job.  Cambos are one of my favorites.  And yeah, they can get pretty big under the right conditions. 



That one was 139 grams fresh by itself.

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Stusi]
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Stusi said:
Nice grow, how are the stems? Hallow or solid all the way through?


They are completely solid and pretty heavy :smile:

I don't think I will be tripping tonight afterall since the wife is home and she is being weird, saying I'm doing too many "drugs" lately. lol Pot and shrooms  :picard:  :picard: I'll see what I can do to fix that.

I have them drying atm.



I have the 2 cakes that I harvested from dunked in a pot by the FC. The other cakes in the FC are pinning. I'll post pics of the pins later.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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congrats! those monsters are gorgeous.:thumbup:

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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: M11]
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M11 said:
Dbb5 said:
M11 said:
Don't dry them.  Eat them fresh.  They are much more potent fresh.


If dried correctly they dont lose potency. At least not a noticable amount.


Yes, this is true, but psilocin oxidizes during the drying process, therefore making dried shrooms less potent.

I would say that about 25 grams fresh equals about 3 grams dried in my experience.


They're not going to loose any noticeable potency.

If you dry them in a dehydrator or even a fan method they will be fine.

Just don't let them sit out for long periods of time. Store them in airtight containers in a cool dry place.

I use a dehydrator with one setting; on. Once they're dry they go into a zip-loc bag, and then into a larger zip-loc bag with a desiccant pack and placed in a box.

Vacuum sealed bags would be best but my zip-loc method works fine.

Fresh or dry, the only noticeable difference is taste.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: nexus1946]
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The difference is indeed not too dramatic, but in my experience it is there.
When it comes to Psilocin rich species, such as Ps. cubensis, or Pan. cyanescens it seems, that fast drying is a lot more important, than with Psilocybin rich species, such as s. azurescens etc.

But what's way more important is -as Nexus1946 already said- proper storing of the fruits.
You can imagine, that a few days of drying isn't as bad, as a few months of improper storage!


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: NosLaser]
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NosLaser said:
Nice job.  Cambos are one of my favorites.  And yeah, they can get pretty big under the right conditions. 



That one was 139 grams fresh by itself.


I don't know how I over looked that photo.....nice lookin' shroom you have there! :thumbup:


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: nexus1946]
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Here are some updates on the other cakes. The Two on the bottom are still recovering from the harvest, but the other three all formed mutants :confused:

Here is an Odd colored one that I have drying right now. Still good right?



Here is a bigger shot of them, you can see the other cakes imperfections.



Close ups on the deformations.




Veil still hasn't broken yet on the big one.





Is it my fault that they are deforming and some are growing to the side? I know My RH is on the low side, 89%ish ... I work long hours so I have 2 air pumps in the FC for the FAE. I'm not causing the mutations right? Like they are not from water droplets or the sorts?

Thanks everyone. Much love and respect. :thumbup:


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Isaacav3]
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Quote:
I'm not causing the mutations right?


Probably not!


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Fahkface]
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Fahkface said:
The difference is indeed not too dramatic, but in my experience it is there.
When it comes to Psilocin rich species, such as Ps. cubensis, or Pan. cyanescens it seems, that fast drying is a lot more important, than with Psilocybin rich species, such as s. azurescens etc.

But what's way more important is -as Nexus1946 already said- proper storing of the fruits.
You can imagine, that a few days of drying isn't as bad, as a few months of improper storage!



Care to give the cliff notes most important points for long term storage of dried fruits please? :smile:


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: gornyhuy]
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The most important point is -as already mentioned- airtight storage. Since the loss of potency is directly connected to the contact of active alkaloids with oxygen, it is reasonable to keep the time, the mushrooms are in contact with air, as short as possible.

Chemical reactions happen faster in warmer temperatures, which is why it's a good idea to store the mushrooms in a cold place.

If you don't have the possibility to air dry them in room temps (with the help a dry room) it would probably be better to dry them in higher temps (the melting point for Psilocin is at about 173°C to 176°C (various statements about that. It's dependent on how it's crystallized though)), so any temps below that won't destroy the Psilocin / Psilocybin. The oxidation process will be sped up by the higher temperatures, but it's probably the better idea to dry them in higher temps, but a shorter time, than to dry them for a long time at room temperature. In the end, it's about the time it's in contact with oxygen, as said before.

So ideally, a fast drying process, a vacuum sealed storage (maybe in a vacuum plastic bag) in the fridge / freezer is the best you can do about it.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Fahkface]
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Fahkface said:
The most important point is -as already mentioned- airtight storage. Since the loss of potency is directly connected to the contact of active alkaloids with oxygen, it is reasonable to keep the time, the mushrooms are in contact with air, as short as possible.

Chemical reactions happen faster in warmer temperatures, which is why it's a good idea to store the mushrooms in a cold place.

If you don't have the possibility to air dry them in room temps (with the help a dry room) it would probably be better to dry them in higher temps (the melting point for Psilocin is at about 173°C to 176°C (various statements about that. It's dependent on how it's crystallized though)), so any temps below that won't destroy the Psilocin / Psilocybin. The oxidation process will be sped up by the higher temperatures, but it's probably the better idea to dry them in higher temps, but a shorter time, than to dry them for a long time at room temperature. In the end, it's about the time it's in contact with oxygen, as said before.

So ideally, a fast drying process, a vacuum sealed storage (maybe in a vacuum plastic bag) in the fridge / freezer is the best you can do about it.


This is all very good advice, DO NOT FREEZE WHEN FRESH, i swear one night 405 people were asking about that


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Montock]
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4-5 sorry not 405 lol


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: Montock]
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I would eat every one of them for a good trip after I at least cut the heads off and tried to print them. Also I my be wrong but why print the small ones i would think you would want the genetics of the larger ones for future projects. maybee multi spore does not matter when it comes to genetics but I would still assume.


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Re: Second grow. Happy with Cambodians. [Re: schonta]
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Also I my be wrong but why print the small ones i would think you would want the genetics of the larger ones for future projects. maybee multi spore does not matter when it comes to genetics but I would still assume.


It shouldn't matter too much. At least when done once. You can be quiet sure, that the genetic information within the millions of spore of single print also contain the "recipe" for mushrooms that grow large ass fruits.

Just because the mushroom you cultivated created large fruits this time, it doesn't mean, that other grows from the same syringe will grow large fruits as well.

This is why isolation is done. To diminish the possibility of weak growing habits and/or to increase the chance for the "filtered" genetics to develop fruits of a certain shape, such as PE, KSSS or any albino strain. You can grow perfectly normal looking fruits from any of these strains, because the genetic information of "how to do that" is still within the prints you get from them.

But yes: taking prints from "successful" fruits, is actually the first step of isolating them.


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