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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: natedog889]
    #24980615 - 02/10/18 12:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Mix the water with just the verm first then add the grain see if that helps


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: natedog889]
    #24980622 - 02/10/18 12:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

2:1:1 ratio works great. Mix the water and verm thoroughly first. Then add the brf and mix that real good. When you load jars dont tamp it down at all. Compaction prolongs colonization. I didnt listen and my jars are taking forever to colonize but look otherwise healthy.

LC to cakes on 1/20 :crankey:


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #24981630 - 02/10/18 01:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Grind your own whole brown rice in a coffee grinder or blender. Leave it where it has some small chunks of the grains left and not all powered. Works awesome, and you won't have the compacting issue.


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Shineonyoucrazy]
    #24983754 - 02/10/18 07:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Fascistbullyboy]
    #24983770 - 02/10/18 07:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:like:

post your updates here bully so more people can learn from your success/mistakes :cheers:


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Some Dude]
    #24983814 - 02/10/18 07:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Will do. Hopefully it'll do more than go green.


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Fascistbullyboy]
    #24983866 - 02/10/18 08:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've been having great success with this method. I'm pulling roughly 2-2 1/2 oz dry each 20 qt unmodified mono tub


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24983868 - 02/10/18 08:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What's your ratio on your 20qt?


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Shineonyoucrazy]
    #24983892 - 02/10/18 08:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

13 cakes to 2 quarts coir verm gypsum worm castings


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24983903 - 02/10/18 08:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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13 cakes to 2 quarts coir verm gypsum worm castings



Seems to fit the '~70g wet/cake spawned' perfectly :super:

I calculated that you pulled out about 900g wet and ended up with 60g dry..


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Some Dude]
    #24984003 - 02/10/18 09:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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13 cakes to 2 quarts coir verm gypsum worm castings



Seems to fit the '~70g wet/cake spawned' perfectly :super:

I calculated that you pulled out about 900g wet and ended up with 60g dry..



Haha yea I noticed that too the other night going thru this thread I'm getting the same results as others are makes me happy haha


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24984024 - 02/10/18 09:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

A few months back I finally got sick and tired of seeing all the pathetic results from cakes inside SGFC so I started to tell EVERYONE that they should spawn their cakes instead. I have no clue how many of those that took my advice that are having success today but feels damn good to see that BRF cakes finally start to produce good for everyone :dancer:


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Some Dude]
    #24984324 - 02/10/18 11:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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A few months back I finally got sick and tired of seeing all the pathetic results from cakes inside SGFC so I started to tell EVERYONE that they should spawn their cakes instead. I have no clue how many of those that took my advice that are having success today but feels damn good to see that BRF cakes finally start to produce good for everyone :dancer:



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I will always agree with this.I have always had better results from bulk spawning my cakes.Bulk spawning is more forgiving,less maintenance,and from what I've been seeing,fairly consistant in yield.
Here's a pic from way back when I would just crumble and case a cake in a salad dish and fruit open air.

I would not get a flush like that from a cake in a SGFC.:shrug:


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: mushroomnate]
    #24984347 - 02/11/18 12:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea for sure this is an awesome method for consistent results.

What I find interesting about this method is that I'm using less than two cups of ground wild bird seed per tub and getting more than two oz. Certainly by grinding the grains the mycelium has a lot easier time distributing the nutrients throughout its network.

I've always just been a fan of cakes because they are nearly fool proof. Making the transition to bulk I am trying to make a fool proof method that will get results 90 to 100% of the time so cakes being so fool proof seem like the obvious choice to me

So I've been working on a way to get every one of my tubs thru 2 flushes every time without getting any mean green anywhere. Has anyone else had the problem of their cakes to bulk subs getting the mean green around the first flush?


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24984456 - 02/11/18 12:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't seen any contamination problems first flush.Most of them flush out before I toss them in the pile.
On the subject of flushes,what kind of flushes are people getting?My first is always strong,but the second is somewhat lacking.(few,but big heavy fruits.)Nutrients all used up from the first flush?


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: mushroomnate]
    #24984486 - 02/11/18 01:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I haven't seen any contamination problems first flush.Most of them flush out before I toss them in the pile.
On the subject of flushes,what kind of flushes are people getting?My first is always strong,but the second is somewhat lacking.(few,but big heavy fruits.)Nutrients all used up from the first flush?




Also curious :popcorn:


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: mushroomnate]
    #24984494 - 02/11/18 01:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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On the subject of flushes,what kind of flushes are people getting?My first is always strong,but the second is somewhat lacking.(few,but big heavy fruits.)Nutrients all used up from the first flush?



Same here. Another contributing factor could be substrate damage from picking fruits and less places to form pinning


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24985126 - 02/11/18 09:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Same here, a full first flush and a humble second flush with few larger fruits. But I have not seen the green once with BRF>bulk. The substrate usually gets spent after the second flush.


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Some Dude]
    #24985154 - 02/11/18 10:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Finally have a cool pinset on my B+ BRF cake to shoebox grow!



They kind of blew up over night while I was drinking whisky downstairs.


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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24985170 - 02/11/18 10:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Same here, a full first flush and a humble second flush with few larger fruits. But I have not seen the green once with BRF>bulk. The substrate usually gets spent after the second flush.



Yep,exactly.

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Finally have a cool pinset on my B+ BRF cake to shoebox grow!



They kind of blew up over night while I was drinking whisky downstairs.



Yes!:congrats:


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