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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Immortality
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Discussion is fairly straightforward and hopefully my post makes sense cause I'm real hung over.  The question is would you want to live forever.  If you could would you.  'Cause I'm a huge Atmosphere fan I'll quote him for my response.

And if I did have a choice
I'd never want to live forever
Just let me have a voice so I can make my points
I can't imagine running a race with no finish line


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Do what you will, this world's a fiction
And is made up of contradiction
-William Blake

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Re: Immortality [Re: EyelessVagabond]
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Every second can be divided infinitely.

I am living forever.


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Re: Immortality [Re: EyelessVagabond]
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We do live forever because matter can't be destroyed.

It'll be nice to get rid of the burden of consciousness though.


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"Whatever you do, you need to keep moving.  Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally).

Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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I think you have.:wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Immortality [Re: Icelander]
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Why is that then?


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"Whatever you do, you need to keep moving.  Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally).

Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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If matter facilitates consciousness, then maybe the two disperse and reorganize in exactly the same way.


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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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It was a joke.:shrug: Guess I should have included a :lol:

But there is really no evidence that has passed scrutiny that there is consciousness after death.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Immortality [Re: skullhuman]
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Quote:
Every second can be divided infinitely.



False.


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Re: Immortality [Re: skullhuman]
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skullhuman said:
If matter facilitates consciousness, then maybe the two disperse and reorganize in exactly the same way.


In the form of another creature years down the line perhaps. But everything is connected, we're all a part of everything, to have no consciousness at all wouldn't be a bad thing.


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"Whatever you do, you need to keep moving.  Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally).

Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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I'd like to see the evidence for consciousness in rock.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Immortality [Re: Icelander]
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Maybe one's molecular assembly provides one's consciousness.  IF that's the case, then would the components of our awareness disperse as our physical bodies do? seeing as the two are seamlessly attached and are apparently one item, ultimately.


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Re: Immortality [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I'd like to see the evidence for consciousness in rock.


Even rocks have an "essence".


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"Whatever you do, you need to keep moving.  Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally).

Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Immortality [Re: skullhuman]
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Maybe

And maybe not.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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rogue_pixie said:
Icelander said:
I'd like to see the evidence for consciousness in rock.


Even rocks have an "essence".


Essence (whatever you mean by that) does not = consciousness.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Immortality [Re: skullhuman]
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skullhuman said:
Maybe one's molecular assembly provides one's consciousness.  IF that's the case, then would the components of our awareness disperse as our physical bodies do? seeing as the two are seamlessly attached and are apparently one item, ultimately.


The brain is an amazing, highly complex organ that enables us to generate conscious thought, without it, conscious thought would not be possible.


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"Whatever you do, you need to keep moving.  Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally).

Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Immortality [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
rogue_pixie said:
Icelander said:
I'd like to see the evidence for consciousness in rock.


Even rocks have an "essence".


Essence (whatever you mean by that) does not = consciousness.



I never said that it did.


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"Whatever you do, you need to keep moving.  Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally).

Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP


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Re: Immortality [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:
Every second can be divided infinitely.



False.


Okay, you let us know then what the definitive smallest increment of time is.  Also let us know when you find the smallest number, or the last one for that matter.

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Re: Immortality [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:
Every second can be divided infinitely.



False.


LOL, one of philosophies oldest paradoxes and OC can solve it with one word.


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"Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics." ~ C.J. Keyser



Mr. Cypher said: "I just tell the girls how sexy I am and their panties melt."

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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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Then I'm curious what you meant by that post?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Immortality [Re: rogue_pixie]
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rogue_pixie said:
skullhuman said:
Maybe one's molecular assembly provides one's consciousness.  IF that's the case, then would the components of our awareness disperse as our physical bodies do? seeing as the two are seamlessly attached and are apparently one item, ultimately.


The brain is an amazing, highly complex organ that enables us to generate conscious thought, without it, conscious thought would not be possible.


Would you agree then that it's a complex of physical components, that interact in dynamic with one another to assemble the brain and enable it the kind of conscious thought that it has?


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