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DoctorJ


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source?
what about the ratio of pollutants to population?
China has 5x more people than America. They consume less than 1/3 of the oil we do.
American consumption is fine as long as the chinese are riding bicycles and eating rice. What happens when capitalist markets cause 1.5 billion people to start wanting ford explorers and mcdonalds? You think the world will handle that kind of drain on resources?
I have already started a revolution of capitalism in China. Now comes the socialist revolution in America. Get ready to kiss your conspicuous standard of living goodbye.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5654465 - 05/20/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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They also have no environmental protection laws of any sort...and yes they have too many people. Too many people is a type of pollution as well.
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5654470 - 05/20/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: I have already started a revolution of capitalism in China. Now comes the socialist revolution in America. Get ready to kiss your conspicuous standard of living goodbye.

Why don't you just erase China....? 
>^;;^<
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DoctorJ


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Huehuecoyotl said: They also have no environmental protection laws of any sort...and yes they have too many people. Too many people is a type of pollution as well.
are you unfamiliar with the harsh breeding laws they have there? China has been trying to keep its population down for a long time.
they happen to be one of the oldest, most humble nations on earth. America could learn a lot from them.
They can't even begin to enjoy our standard of living until we stop taking resources and throwing them down the toilet.
The bottom line is that they are older and bigger, and yet still consume less than us. America is about to get its comeupance. Big time. Trust me on this one, bro. Either we get a brain and start consuming wisely, or the yellow invasion will take us out. They have nukes you know.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5654610 - 05/20/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah they have breeding laws now...which is still fucked up because it is taking people's freedoms. That situation is a mess. Their government is a repressive nightmare of a regime that will not blink at exterminating their own citizens. They have no environmental laws, and their waterways are fast becoming polluted in a horrible way. I will not trust you "bro" because you don't know enough about this to trust. China is not humble, but agressive and dangerous to their own population. A few years back I read about an explosion in a fireworks factory...the factory was also a grade school...the workers were all children under 12...yeah communism is really efficient...at using up humanity like it was fuel. Don't even get me started about the lack of safety standards in their places of work...
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5654631 - 05/20/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"source?" So, you don't need one?
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Deviate
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They truly begin to understand the value that life...not just human life...but any life...has.
what value does life have?
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Re: Immortality [Re: Deviate]
#5654721 - 05/20/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It cannot be estimated in money. It is sacred.
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Huehuecoyotl said: It cannot be estimated in money. It is sacred.
oh i know of the sacred, i'm just playing devil's advocate because i think it could be said that no experience a human can have could possibly prove that life has value. astral projection, ghosts, esp, and other paranormal phenomenon as well as normal phenomenon can only point to the possible existance of value, they are not a comment on the value of life.
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Re: Immortality [Re: Deviate]
#5654879 - 05/20/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here's a good way to give yourself a healthy dose of 'Can I really die?' Kill yourself, if you live, you have evidence.
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China has nukes. Sure. But does China stockpile an insane number of them in nearly hamlet size submarines that can rlease 12+ warheads at a time to multiple locations in a thousand mile spread?
I think they have bigger fish to fry than a nuclear pissing contest. China's leaders are struggling to keep thier shit together, much less go capitalist.
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5654916 - 05/20/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: source
"China is home to 16 of the world’s 20 most polluted cities; water pollution affects as much as 70 percent of the country; air pollution is blamed for the premature death of some 400,000 Chinese annually; crop returns are steadily decreasing in quantity and quality because of polluted land and water; and solid waste production is expected to more than double over the next decade, pushing China far ahead of the U.S. as the largest producer." -- The Economist, August 19, 2004
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DoctorJ


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Huehuecoyotl said: Yeah they have breeding laws now...which is still fucked up because it is taking people's freedoms. That situation is a mess. Their government is a repressive nightmare of a regime that will not blink at exterminating their own citizens. They have no environmental laws, and their waterways are fast becoming polluted in a horrible way. I will not trust you "bro" because you don't know enough about this to trust. China is not humble, but agressive and dangerous to their own population. A few years back I read about an explosion in a fireworks factory...the factory was also a grade school...the workers were all children under 12...yeah communism is really efficient...at using up humanity like it was fuel. Don't even get me started about the lack of safety standards in their places of work...
the chinese government and the chinese people are 2 very different entities.
The chinese government will fall. The chinese people will rise.
The american government will rise. The american people will fall.
this is Justice.
get ready.
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5655312 - 05/21/06 02:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Justice or judgement
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DoctorJ


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Re: Immortality [Re: Springs]
#5655708 - 05/21/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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you are so enlightened
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Re: Immortality [Re: DoctorJ]
#5655992 - 05/21/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said: you are so enlightened
It is better than being delusional. 
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DoctorJ


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Engaging in valueless acts...
Such as posting about engaging in valueless acts...
The OP is transfering a large chunk of positive energy here. Not valueless in my eyes at all.
Good post,
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DoctorJ said: source
"China is home to 16 of the world’s 20 most polluted cities; water pollution affects as much as 70 percent of the country; air pollution is blamed for the premature death of some 400,000 Chinese annually; crop returns are steadily decreasing in quantity and quality because of polluted land and water; and solid waste production is expected to more than double over the next decade, pushing China far ahead of the U.S. as the largest producer." -- The Economist, August 19, 2004
Answer to that J.
Lets hear some more of that delusional banter.
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