Adamist said:

Our xenophobic human tendencies create fearful attitudes like those expressed in this thread..

It's pretty sad really.. Just what are you afraid of?
Are these aliens going to come take your jobs?

You're like the people who bring guns to UFO sightings.

These beings have traveled unimaginable distances to get here,
with technology that we probably can't even begin to comprehend,
and what would you do as they landed?? Arm yourself!



You give the human race a bad name.


Stop being afraid of anything that's different- you might actually LEARN something!

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Envix said:

if aliens wanted to take over they would have done so already.
...perhaps they already have??

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Envix said:

well, if you call aliens posing as gods in order to gain humanity's followings in exchange for incredibly advanced techonolgies "evil", then I suppose you'd be happier if there was no religion in exchange for still being monkeys.

that's right. aliens evolved us.

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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

Adamist said:

I have read the books you listed, Stroonz, as well as many others, but that doesn't mean I take the information without a grain of salt. I am very open to possibilities, but much more cautious with my beliefs. Honestly I don't see how you can believe completely one way or another with the information that's available. My own UFO experience has shifted my opinions more towards the "believer" camp, but I am not dogmatic. I am open to the possibility that what I saw was something else that I currently have no explanation for. That's why they're called "unidentified" flying objects.

Personally I think it's more likely that extra-terrestrials are just like us- their moral compass swings from benevolence to malevolence just as easily as ours does. And to think that an entire SPECIES would be one or the other is just ridiculous. If they are intelligent enough to travel vast distances, I think they'd also have the same free will to choose their actions as we do.

I do think it likely that some have been involved in our planet's history long before we came along, and perhaps we were originally engineered to be a slave race, but obviously we've evolved from that. I don't hold it against them..

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BiG_StroOnZ said:

If you look at the evidence THAT WE DO HAVE, the ET's that have visited since we could begin documenting have been mostly malevolent, and whether you choose to believe it or not doesn't change the fact.

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It's not that I don't believe in benevolent species existing out there, because there obviously are. However, the majority of the ones who've visited and intervened on our planet have been recorded throughout history as being "evil," thus doing terrible things to our species (see Nag Hammadi - Origin of the World)

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BiG_StroOnZ said:

All I'm going to do is ask you this, as a whole, the human species from an outsider or third-person perspective would be considered what? Benevolent or Malevolent?  The answer to that is obvious, and has nothing to do with our emotions or "moral compass"

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I disagree. Human beings have evolved much in the past 500 years, even the past century...
I mean, how many actual wars are still being fought today globally? Not many, and not nearly as many as there used to be.

Yes, governments and social systems are as corrupt as ever, but you can plainly see the "conscious" portion of humanity is growing, and has been since the 1960's.
I would not label our species malevolent as a whole. We are a mixed bag, with as many different habits and individual morals as there are people.
Of course there are murderers, rapists, etc, but nowhere near the majority of humanity falls into this category, not even close.

You can't really say that human beings are "good" or "evil". There is simply too much variation among us.


As for there being architects that control the destiny of our race, I find it totally possible, if not likely.
If you look at how the human race just "magically appeared" in the evolution of Earth, there must be a novel explanation as evolution itself hasn't even begun to explain it.
(When confronted with this oddity, scientists usually just give the equivalent of shrugged shoulders).

dummy said:

poid is a funny guy, to say the least...

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SuperD said:

BiG_StroOnZ said:

If you look at the evidence THAT WE DO HAVE, the ET's that have visited since we could begin documenting have been mostly malevolent, and whether you choose to believe it or not doesn't change the fact.

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Contrary to what you say, tens of thousands of UFO reports stream in each year all across our globe with no reported harm or malevolent activity attached with them.  Not all of those are of extraterrestrial origin obviously, but it's safe to assume not all of them are false flags either.  This pattern has repeated itself year after year. 

UFOs seen over multiple military bases have shut down their weapon systems without causing any harm to the personnel who witnessed the events.  UFOs have also shut down the weapons system of fighter pilots scrambled to intercept them.  Again, no fight ensued between the UFO and fighter pilots.  The real, documented and reported evidence speaks volumes more than a book or books written by someone to make money and/or gain some notoriety.

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It's not that I don't believe in benevolent species existing out there, because there obviously are. However, the majority of the ones who've visited and intervened on our planet have been recorded throughout history as being "evil," thus doing terrible things to our species (see Nag Hammadi - Origin of the World)

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Oh of course, silly me.  I forgot to read that book which happens to have all the answers for us.  I think that's been tried before..what's the name of it?  Ah yes, the Bible.  Books are great, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, none of which can be definitively proven through any of the books you listed, much like the Bible.  How convenient for the authors.

How ironic is it that some of the biggest believers our there also happen to be the biggest skeptics?  I find myself in this category because quite frankly, 95% of the bullshit out there just isn't aimed at uncovering the truth.

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BiG_StroOnZ said:

You believe all those reports?

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Besides when is the last time you took Billy Bob's account of a UFO serious? Out of all those sightings how many of those are real, and verifiable?

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You obviously don't know much about religion or ancient civilizations, if you did you would understand that the information inside many of these texts unfolds countless truths about this topic. Whether you decide to look into these sources is entirely up to you. Your misunderstanding towards these texts and artifacts is apparent though.

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Ginseng1 said:

Any of you seen 'The Arrivals'?

It's a 40 part movie about the subject of the Earth today and what's really going on from the perspective of a group of muslims who made certain connections.

According to them:

-There are no aliens
-There are only shape-shifting 'Jinn'.
-'Jinn' are basically demons.
-'Jinn' and Satan are plotting to take over the world.
-'Jinn' - being shape-shifters - are posing as 'Aliens' to deceive humankind into accepting them as a higher benevolent intelligence so that they then can implement Satan's will on Earth.  Humans like us eat up this whole Alien thing like Lucky Charms.  We love it.  We love the prospect of them being our friends.

Anybody know what Satan's will is?  I don't.

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This may be one of the most interesting theories I've heard.