Ginseng1 said:

Any of you seen 'The Arrivals'?

It's a 40 part movie about the subject of the Earth today and what's really going on from the perspective of a group of muslims who made certain connections.

According to them:

-There are no aliens
-There are only shape-shifting 'Jinn'.
-'Jinn' are basically demons.
-'Jinn' and Satan are plotting to take over the world.
-'Jinn' - being shape-shifters - are posing as 'Aliens' to deceive humankind into accepting them as a higher benevolent intelligence so that they then can implement Satan's will on Earth.  Humans like us eat up this whole Alien thing like Lucky Charms.  We love it.  We love the prospect of them being our friends.

Anybody know what Satan's will is?  I don't.

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NlightNd1 said:

Ginseng1 said:

Any of you seen 'The Arrivals'?

It's a 40 part movie about the subject of the Earth today and what's really going on from the perspective of a group of muslims who made certain connections.

According to them:

-There are no aliens
-There are only shape-shifting 'Jinn'.
-'Jinn' are basically demons.
-'Jinn' and Satan are plotting to take over the world.
-'Jinn' - being shape-shifters - are posing as 'Aliens' to deceive humankind into accepting them as a higher benevolent intelligence so that they then can implement Satan's will on Earth.  Humans like us eat up this whole Alien thing like Lucky Charms.  We love it.  We love the prospect of them being our friends.

Anybody know what Satan's will is?  I don't.

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This is probably the most accurate theory I've ever heard about these "ETs". I find this way easier to believe than that they are from another planet for many reasons. In my mind there is no doubt that the Greys are very evil beings. These entities have abilities that go far beyond advanced technology. Many abductees and individuals who've had close encounters with the Greys reported that the tall Greys can levitate and hover apparently without the use of advanced technology to do so. Some abductees say that the Greys seem to lack a respiratory system because they apparently display no indication of inhaling and exhaling. Many experts are baffled as to how "ETs" eat, or whatever they do to give their bodies energy due to their physiology. Their crafts can accelerate at extremely high velocities and can maneuver extremely rapidly without the g-forces killing the occupants. I had heard from the testimony of pilots and other individuals that ET vehicles can become transparent and disappear as if they are popping in and out of existence. I just recently witnessed this first-hand so now I know that they can actually do this. I've witnessed a couple of these discs up close before. The thing that struck me as being extremely odd was that the discs I saw didn't have any door, hatches, or seams of any sort on the exterior. They looked like a big solid piece of weightless dull gray metal. It was as if the beings inside them must've teleported into the crafts. I believe that these "ETs" are probably made of some form of energy that is unknown to science. Whatever they're constructed of apparently makes them unrestricted by the laws of physics, giving them the ability to do seemingly impossible things.

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BiG_StroOnZ said:

The thing about the Greys is, you hear many different theories from different perspectives; some say they're malevolent and others say they're benevolent.

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Doc_T said:

BiG_StroOnZ said:

The thing about the Greys is, you hear many different theories from different perspectives; some say they're malevolent and others say they're benevolent.

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I think it's just that they are alien- they are inscrutable to a certain extent. It's hard to tell just what they are up to.

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BiG_StroOnZ said:

The thing about the Greys is, you hear many different theories from different perspectives; some say they're malevolent and others say they're benevolent. The best theory I've yet to hear is that the Greys are simply automatons or organic androids of some sort (basically robots).

Now I don't doubt that there are benevolent forces or beings of some sort, but I feel they are more reluctant to "intervene" with our planet as much as the malevolent "aliens."

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Envix said:

BiG_StroOnZ said:

The thing about the Greys is, you hear many different theories from different perspectives; some say they're malevolent and others say they're benevolent. The best theory I've yet to hear is that the Greys are simply automatons or organic androids of some sort (basically robots).

Now I don't doubt that there are benevolent forces or beings of some sort, but I feel they are more reluctant to "intervene" with our planet as much as the malevolent "aliens."

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honestly, I don't believe malevolence could exist in a society more advanced than the current state of this human one we've created.
a society can only reach a certain point in technological development with a collective malevolent mindset before it ends up destroying itself.
just my opinion, though. based on what I've concluded as a logical and reasonable explanation.

and as far as alien "encounters" go, and how some people say it was a bad experience while others say it was a very good experience.
I don't believe there would be two groups of aliens; one out to study us and experiment on us for.. whatever reason, and one supposedly helping us evolve.
My guess is that it's a completely subjective experience in that it's all the same experience, but people's interpretations and perspective of such becomes the reality of the situation itself.
If there were truly a group of "rogue scientist" aliens and a group of uh... "philanthropist" aliens both simultaneously observing our planet, wouldn't they be kicking each others' asses out in our skies?

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Adamist said:

In July of last year a friend and I witnessed 3 UFO's in central Florida... they were pulsing different colors and doing impossible maneuvers, disappearing and reappearing, and definitely seemed to be aware of us. We were out in a cow field in the country so we could see them very clearly. We walked towards a large hill to get a better view and they followed our direction. Once they started getting closer (I'd guess maybe 500-600 feet) I became extremely freaked out and thought we were about to be abducted. At first I was frozen in awe but soon I realized we were so far from anyone else that we could have just disappeared without a trace. So we started running as fast as we could back to his house.. when we looked back we saw that they had stopped descending, and within a few more minutes they all just disappeared!

One of the most unbelievably crazy experiences of my life.

After the experience I searched online for anyone who saw the same things around that time and I found a report online that was made in the exact same zip code almost a month earlier, that described our experience to a T.

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DieCommie said:

Every piece evidence we have here on earth points to the idea that the more technologically advanced a society is the more war-like it is.

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DieCommie said:

Every piece evidence we have here on earth points to the idea that the more technologically advanced a society is the more war-like it is.

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Envix said:

DieCommie said:

Every piece evidence we have here on earth points to the idea that the more technologically advanced a society is the more war-like it is.

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I still believe every society comes to a "crossroads" in which they're too technologically advanced to do war without it resulting in global annihilation. Therefore, any society in existence beyond this "crossroads moment" must have resulted in lack of war.

the evidence is statistical rate of weaponry development within the past 100 years or so. technological advancement of war like weaponry has been increasing dramatically. surely if a future with even more powerful weaponry (coinciding with this "warlike mentality" you claim every society possesses) were to exist, the first retaliation strike to any provocation would surely be a last.

though of course I'm speaking from an earth-resident perspective of non-earth-residential societies.
I have nothing else to go by or compare things to, therefore my brain is inert for understanding anything further. only guesses and hypothesis.

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BiG_StroOnZ said:

There seems to be an eerie trend in this thread with seeing three UFO's in Florida.

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I was really thankful that I had a friend with me who experienced the same thing, otherwise it would have been harder to talk about.. I still don't like telling people about it unless someone specifically asks, but at least I have that friend who was there and witnessed it with me. We will forever be bonded by that strange, unusual experience. He's actually on the Shroomery, I'll ask him to post in this thread with his own description of events that night.

I also thought it was too much of a coincidence that I found a report online from the same exact zip code I was in, that described what we saw perfectly, only a month earlier. I should mention I did not and still don't have any preconceived notions about aliens.. I have no idea what was inside those flying objects, but whatever it was had to be extremely sophisticated, especially to be aware of us at such a height above us in the dark. I still don't rule out the possibility that it could have been some sort of secret man-made ships, but if so that's a pretty huge secret. These ships moved like nothing I can even imagine we are capable of. It was almost like inter-dimensional travel rather than purely physical. Like I said, they were disappearing and reappearing before our eyes... Crazy stuff.

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UFOINFO E-mail Sighting Report


Location: Ocala, Florida


Date: June 2nd 2008


Time: 10:46pm


I stepped outside for a cigarette and sat down on my porch. When I looked up at the stars I noticed a small blinking red, blue, green lights flashing from something. It was floating very slowly back and forth kind of like in the shape of an S. This morning I was woken up by an extremely loud jet flying oddly very low...not sure if they coincide but as I continued to watch the ufo, another one popped out in the distance. I see planes fly in and out all the time- these were no planes. Planes give off a very obvious white flash that's repetitive and you see them descend.


They were barely stationary, then would move into motion, then return to where they were before. They'd pick up speed, then slow down, then burst speed again. They were very high but the amount of light they gave off, gave off their position. It then litteraly sat stationary over my house, just too high for me to see what shape. It looked round- no idea what color it was though as all I could really make out was the lights and general outline of the shape of the craft.


The whole town seems to be buzzing with ufo activity- I was curious to know if anyone had seen what I had. I had no choice but to report this...it was far too eerie to be anything like a plane or military jet. I'll be watching the skies closely and will attempt to take a photo if I encounter what I did. I suggest everyone really starts to keep an eye open...there is certainly something going on up there.

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UFOINFO E-mail Report


Location: Ocala, Florida


Date: May 27th 2008


Time: 9:45pm


Number of witnesses: 1


Number of objects: 4 possibly more


I was on my way home from work...I live about an hour and a half away from Orlando in a small rural town. It's not illuminated like larger cities so I am able to gaze up at the stars perfectly. Fortunately I didn't have to...I saw what I thought was the top of a cell phone tower because it was pulsating. It was huge and obvious, almost like it made no attempt to camoflauge itself. As it flew over my head I saw it was a triangle shape.


My first immediate thought was it was something military but then I saw there were 2 red ufo's a small distance behind it that looked like they were shooting red and green lights at each other back and forth. Also pulsating- even more than the actual triangle shaped craft. As I pulled into my drive-way a far distance away there was another reddish pulsating object far higher than I could make out but I could still see it pulsating and changing colors. Needless to say thats 4 objects. Possibly more as I thought I had seen 5-6 but because they were so far away I may have mistaken them for stars...I drew a diagram as well to give you an idea.


I knew none of these were planes because there was a plane flying towards Orlando in the distance which allowed me to easily compare the crafts. This wasn't my first sighting but it tops anything I've ever encountered. I attempted to take pictures but all I got on my camera was darkness. I will not deny the fact that I saw the triangle shape ufo- it literally flew over the road I was traveling and by squinting I was able to make out 3 distinct lights in the shape of a triangle as well as the outline of the craft (triangle). I would like to know if anyone has had a sighting similar to this or along the same lines...Also if perhaps anyone in Florida had seen the same thing. I've attached a drawing to show what exactly I saw.

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