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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Alabama Slim]
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i think im gonna slurry my whole grain spaghetti cakes


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Alabama Slim]
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Slimz]
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i just read over the first couple pages.( i'll finish later ) this is both fascinating and eye opening. kudos on the experiment and success. i've also had an incredible amount of trich over the summer and i'm just starting to recover. i wish i saw this thread a week ago being i just ordered from a vendor ( could of used the extra coin  but wtf ). most recently after an 'epic syringe fail' i am left with 4 of 36 jars and 3 of 20 agar plates.:shrug:

i don't do wbs anymore, however when i do WBS i sometimes have a bit more seed than qt jars and i end up with a few pt jars that end up in my little supply cabinet and just sit there. every so often i they fruit a bit and i pluck em' out and just put them back. (one has been giving up 2 fruits a month since april, lol)

anyway, i was wondering if this slurry would work just as well with WBS or other grains? you were saying early on that a thicker or muddier mix would be better suited to spawning. i'm thinking that by blending a bit more the WBS should mix in with the water fairly well since it should be pretty soft under the husk. plus the brand i use has a lot of cob and cracked corn in it. my only concern there is that excessive blending could be too harsh on the mycelia, what do you think?
also using the WBS ( if it works ) may take out some of the 'nutrient rich spawn to yield ratio dilemma'.

i only have 1/2 pts with a standard mouth but if anyone is wondering it does fit on Cuisinart blenders. :2cents:


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: artizen]
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so lets say you inject an lc or clone material into a pf jar. what ill do is use like 1 syringe per 2 pf jars and have full colonization in a few days. you then slurry that jar and have fruits within 2 weeks or so depending on the fruiting time frame for that particular strain. so, there are things i see positive about it. like quick fruits to eat. the yield most likely won't be as good. but test it out, you may prove me wrong.



since ive seen this tek i been doing it just on coir with 4 65qt bin and pulling 10 o's in weeks

one thing i do is get my one pfjar colonized slurry it and pour a splash to 5 pf jars. then pour the rest to my sub. thanks for this tek:thumbup:


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: artizen]
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artizen said:
i just read over the first couple pages.( i'll finish later ) this is both fascinating and eye opening. kudos on the experiment and success. i've also had an incredible amount of trich over the summer and i'm just starting to recover. i wish i saw this thread a week ago being i just ordered from a vendor ( could of used the extra coin  but wtf ). most recently after an 'epic syringe fail' i am left with 4 of 36 jars and 3 of 20 agar plates.:shrug:

i don't do wbs anymore, however when i do WBS i sometimes have a bit more seed than qt jars and i end up with a few pt jars that end up in my little supply cabinet and just sit there. every so often i they fruit a bit and i pluck em' out and just put them back. (one has been giving up 2 fruits a month since april, lol)

anyway, i was wondering if this slurry would work just as well with WBS or other grains? you were saying early on that a thicker or muddier mix would be better suited to spawning. i'm thinking that by blending a bit more the WBS should mix in with the water fairly well since it should be pretty soft under the husk. plus the brand i use has a lot of cob and cracked corn in it. my only concern there is that excessive blending could be too harsh on the mycelia, what do you think?
also using the WBS ( if it works ) may take out some of the 'nutrient rich spawn to yield ratio dilemma'.

i only have 1/2 pts with a standard mouth but if anyone is wondering it does fit on Cuisinart blenders. :2cents:



yeah look up tv casualty's slurry in a hurry tek. thats linked on the first post of this thread. you just use one pf jar to knock up like 120 quart jars of wbs. works really great! you could use it with any grain you want. i been using it with wbs for over a year and its great. but it does work on rye, millet, pcorn. any kind of grain will work. generally i only need 10 quarts max a week of spawn. thats only one pf jar master forked into 10 or 12 quarts. id use slurry more often but unless i need like 50 jars in 3 days i don't use it. if i need quick grain. its perfect for those times when you have slow ass spawn.

oh but im talking about pced grain spawn. who knows it might work using that. friend said they have tried strawnet expanded without pasteurization with good results. but with grains, they contam quick so its a matter of getting the slurry to spread faster than the trich has time to set in. worth a try if you ask me. even if your just tossing the extra grain out. what will it hurt?


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Edited by eatyualive (09/27/09 11:22 PM)

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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: milkman59]
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milkman59 said:
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so lets say you inject an lc or clone material into a pf jar. what ill do is use like 1 syringe per 2 pf jars and have full colonization in a few days. you then slurry that jar and have fruits within 2 weeks or so depending on the fruiting time frame for that particular strain. so, there are things i see positive about it. like quick fruits to eat. the yield most likely won't be as good. but test it out, you may prove me wrong.



since ive seen this tek i been doing it just on coir with 4 65qt bin and pulling 10 o's in weeks

one thing i do is get my one pfjar colonized slurry it and pour a splash to 5 pf jars. then pour the rest to my sub. thanks for this tek:thumbup:



yeah then its like g2g at the same time as your spawning. cool!


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Skaloser]
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Skaloser said:
if you had rye quart jars would it work to slurry them instead of slurrying 1/2 pint brf jars?



if you have colonized grain just spawn em regularly. if you only have one quart of grain and you want to try slurrying it. might be worth a try. but remember if the grain isn't completely colonized by the mycelia it might cause issues. use a grain thats completely colonized throughout. sunflower seed shells don't colonize the inside by the mycelia.


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Edited by eatyualive (09/27/09 11:28 PM)

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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Slimz]
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Slimz said:
i think im gonna slurry my whole grain spaghetti cakes



cool. remember with whole rice grains and noodles and such. if you strain it a bit longer it dries out the noodles a bit. might be worth drying the noodles a little extra to account for the water your adding. or even lower the water ratio big time. like make the slurry a thick muddy consistency. then slurry it into spaghetti. good luck with that. will be cool to see some spaghetti cakes lol..


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: eatyualive]
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I have tried this out and the tek works with hpoo. You dont even need grains. Theres no prep work with poo other than breaking it up. You load up your jars with poo as spawn and when they colonize you blend them up with a blender. I still pasteurize my manure when going bulk or monotub. After you pasteurize spread the poo out on a cookie sheet and let it dry out in the oven on a low temperature. It dries out really fast. Once it is dried you mix in your gypsum. Now all you do is blend in your slurry till the moisture content is just right. Its like one big LC. It works way better like this because you can control the moisture content. Also hpoo is free and you dont have to spend money on grains.

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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Cloneufc]
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I'm with you man on it all but man, I'm single,, I guess i could get away with blending poo and colinzed poo cakes in my blender,and then baking Poo in my oven in the kithcen, but dinner would never be the same AGAIN:thumbdown::crazy2:, your old lady must be the coolest wife in the history of mankind:headbanger:how do you do it.:pimp3:


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: ShroomProphet]
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shroomphrophet. if your using composted hpoo. then you can bake it in the oven fine. it smells like dirt. it should be bone dry as well. if your poo needs leaching. yeah don't bake it in the oven it will smell like a shitstorm lol...


leach your poo if it still smells like ammonia when your using it for bulk subs.


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn *DELETED* [Re: eatyualive]
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: sansa]
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thought i made it clear.

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Recipe of Substrate by volume for: 1 66 quart tub or similar size tub

2 turkey tins volume of pasteurized substrate  per 66 quart tub

The Slurry Per Tub is

1 half pint colonized PF  cake
for ease using small mouth half pint jars make dropping the cake into the quart jar easier. if you have a widemouth 1/2 pint you will have to cut the cake in half to fit it in your small mouth quart.

1 small mouth quart jar filled with 1 pint full of distilled water
(pced for 20 mins at 15psi prior)
(if you don't have a small mouth quart jar. and you only have 2 pint jars you can use these as well. you will have to cut the cake in half then blend it in each separate pint jar. this will be the same ratio just split in half. this will require 2 blade assemblies.  im finding that less water equals more sludge consistency of the cake. so lowering your water will make it a thicker mixture. the substrate catches this better.)

illustration of small mouth pint jars and quart jars with blade assembly ready for Pressure Cooker . 20 mins at 15psi.



picture of a turkey tin below




Substrate volume per tub:
1 small brick coir

6 cups of strawnet that is boiled to release the binding agent. (it is boiled in coffee and water to add nitrogen. this isn't necessary just a trial for now. it is then strained out. no extra water is added just the water present in the strawnet)

2 quarts dry horse nugs

2 quarts dry vermiculite

1/4th cup supercake formula is placed in this as well

this should fill two turkey tins by volume of substrate so you can oven pasteurize. if you don't oven pasteurize then figure out a way to squeeze out the excess moisture from your substrate or add more dry vermiculite prior to spawning to account for adding the slurry liquid. or in the end after spawning you can just squeeze out the excess moisture once you mix in the slurry.

but you have to take into account. i mix my sub to over field capacity then oven pasteurize. this loses moisture due to evaporation. so being pasteurized over field capacity allows the subs to be at field capacity once pasteurization is complete. this becomes a science at times. its easy to misjudge. if you liquid or steam pasteurize and add water after or use water to pasteurize. you have to take into account the moisture content you need has to be a little dry to account for additional liquid.

also any substrate should work using this method. im just using the ratios i prefer. just to demonstrate here. just set your sub depth and mix your substrate volume accordingly.







people are free to post results as of now. ive only tried this and it worked.


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn *DELETED* [Re: eatyualive]
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: sansa]
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i don't know you will have to measure it yourself im sorry. i took that from the first page of this post.


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: eatyualive]
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Do I need to blend it in the quart jar, or could I just use the blender? I would clean with bleach or alcohol.


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry Spawn [Re: Sanguine]
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you probably could. b
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Do I need to blend it in the quart jar, or could I just use the blender? I would clean with bleach or alcohol.



ut sometimes food gets stuck in strange places in blenders. with the glass jar. you can use an oster blender. it attaches to a small mouth jar easily. this way you can pressure cook it and really sterilize it.


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: eatyualive]
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How do you, or anyone sterilize the blender bottom?


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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: VilliN] * 1
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VilliN said:
How do you, or anyone sterilize the blender bottom?



the blade assembly on the oster blender fits perfectly to a small mouth pint, half pint, or quart jar. you can place the band from your jars right over it and it fits snugly on the jar.



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Edited by eatyualive (01/10/10 07:15 PM)

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