Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Science and Technology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Building your own cloud chamber
    #10873120 -

Has anyone done this? (qubit, I'm looking in your direction...)  It looks awesome, and pretty easy to do.

link


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #10873423 -

Hey dont look at me, I dont do particle physics.  :tongue:

Are you going to try it?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: DieCommie]
    #10873463 -

I really want to.  I just have to find some dry ice.  I have one of those halogen work lights I hope works for the light.


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #10873479 -

And pure isopropanol.  idk where to get that


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #10873492 -

Actually, it says "Pure (not 70%) isopropyl alcohol" so I wonder if the drug store 98% or whatever will work...


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #10873692 -

I know here in FL Publix (a grocery store) sells dry ice for $1.50 a lbs.

I would think 90% or higher Iso would work.

Not sure whats in that 10% tho, probably water, if thats the case, if the case gets cold enough, the water should just freeze, and stay at the top while the iso will still vaporize.


But i could be wrong. :shrug:


--------------------

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. Im not too sure about the former.      -Einstein

Of course the rules need to be enforced, but the goal of law and order should be to create a just society, not to enforce laws. -Unknown

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”  -Stephen Roberts

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #10873815 -

Man im going to try this tomorrow.

I have a glass 6x12x6 aquarium, vynal tape, 90% Iso, card board, a halogen light, and i can pick up dry ice tomorrow.

Now to find a metal plate, but i have plenty of scrap metal so that will be easy.

Man im kinda excited.

Ill have to break out the camera and make some clips.

:vaped:


--------------------

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. Im not too sure about the former.      -Einstein

Of course the rules need to be enforced, but the goal of law and order should be to create a just society, not to enforce laws. -Unknown

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”  -Stephen Roberts

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #10873853 -

Awesome, dude, please post pics or video in here, I wanna see how it works out.

Good luck! :awedance: :highfive:


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #10875248 -

ive done this years back after seeing a large one at the exploratorium.

worked beautifuly! definetley worth the few dollars it took to make.

i stepped it up a notch...:evil: i used a peltier junction (sp?) off ebay to replace the dry ice. also used a better solvent... damn i think it was toluene but im not sure. it was nice to have it plugged in instead of buying dry ice :wink:


--------------------
Good places to start:
WBS TEK
Grain LC TEK
Spawn Bag TEK
Mini Mono Tub TEK
Sclerotia Mega-Thread

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: LitCloset]
    #10893891 -

So I was looking around for some good tips on making one of these (and a good radiation source), and a post on a physics forum got me this: United Nuclear.

They have kits with everything you need to make one, as well as radiation sources (including uranium :awesome:) and awesomely powerful magnets for deflecting particles.

If you are worried about big brother, their FAQ says

Quote:
Do you sell, or give out my personal and/or order information?
ABSOLUTELY NOT. We do not even archive your personal, or order information for our own uses. We will not give out any information on anyone for any reason.  - PERIOD.
Chemical suppliers routinely forward customers names, along with their purchases to Government officials / Homeland Security officials, etc. WE DO NOT - AND NEVER WILL. We respect your privacy and will fight for it."


...however they were busted by the feds (CPSC to be exact) for selling chemicals that can be used in making illegal fireworks.  The uranium and polonium and other radioactive sources are so small that they wouldn't be useful for much more than scientific research anyway.

I plan on ordering some stuff from them when I get some extra cash.


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #10910751 -

I have done this, but without the dry ice.

In electronics (parts) stores you can get "Freeze Spray" (first link that came up on Google) which is used to cool down parts of electronic circuits for testing purposes. Spraying this from below against the bottom of the chamber works almost as good, it's a bit more tricky that's all. I used the minute hand of an old alarm clock (Chinese made, in the '50s or '60s I guess) which is coated in a tiny amount of radium as a particle source.

That alarm clock made my geiger counter go wild. Scary to think that people used to sleep for years right next to it.

Edited by koppie (08/22/09 10:03 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: koppie]
    #11088932 -

what would happen if this chamber was placed over a nuclear waste dump?

i ask because there is one public nuclear waste dump in the world, and its right outside of chicago, actually i have visited it a few times....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Gate_Woods

its where CP-1 is buried (the waste from the first nuclear reactor... ever)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1


--------------------
PEACE

:mushroom2:zippoz:mushroom2:



"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: ZippoZ]
    #11090447 -

I've read all about CP-1, Enrico Fermi did a great job making that!

I would imagine you could take the cloud chamber by there and observe some nice tracks.  You could of course take a geiger counter there and see what kind radiation is coming from it.

Also: thanks for bumping my thread, so I don't have to!


--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: cortex]
    #11091253 -

what kind of tracks, or particles would the natural decay of CP-1 cause?


--------------------
PEACE

:mushroom2:zippoz:mushroom2:



"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: ZippoZ]
    #11091306 -

α & β particles, mostly.


--------------------
https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-renee-goods-wife-and-son

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #11110807 -

Fuck cosmic rays...


--------------------
Formula: 0
-------------


Diabolical prismatic streaks of bitterness frame the grim and frostbitten dawn; their furious glow enthroned upon arctic heavens, destined to reign above Lucifer’s Windows XP desktop wallpaper for all eternity.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: shroomer33]
    #11113902 -

what sort of tracks will those decaying α & β particles leave within the chamber?


--------------------
PEACE

:mushroom2:zippoz:mushroom2:



"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Building your own cloud chamber [Re: ZippoZ]
    #11114214 -

From WikiPedia:



Quote:
Tracks of ionizing radiation in a cloud chamber (thick, short: alpha particles; long, thin: beta particles).



--------------------

Signature (up to 750 characters).

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

General Interest > Science and Technology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* can you build your own ionic breeze??
( 1 2 all )		 the man 3,593 22 07/22/04 10:27 AM
by Seuss
* The Oh-My-God Particle
( 1 2 all )		 DiploidM 3,811 23 03/28/05 11:15 AM
by cybrbeast
* 20 light-year wide particle accelerator spotted by astronomers MarioNett 2,267 18 04/16/05 11:06 AM
by Aeolus1369
* What is a wave/particle? Gomp 1,285 11 04/07/06 10:41 AM
by ChuangTzu
* so, so lets say i need to build a cooling tower thats about 1500 feet tall.... HOW do i do it?
( 1 2 all )		 ZippoZM 4,025 34 08/07/06 02:12 AM
by ZippoZ
* building a electrokinetic device aka Lifter
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )		 Eightball 15,582 82 12/17/06 07:40 AM
by trendal
* i want to build a telescope wilshire 2,353 17 02/03/06 03:46 PM
by TODAY
* building your own computer Thin White Duke 2,171 14 08/20/05 10:50 AM
by abhi

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: trendal, automan, Northerner
1,050 topic views. 0 members, 6 guests and 6 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.025 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 14 queries.