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Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars
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This is just my thoughts about it if you have the patiences read it

Back in the 1800 s The British was selling opium to china
The chinese government took measures to ban this opium trade
which started the opium wars
The Uks military was superior to chinas so beating chinas army forced china to lift a trade embargo with the UK

lets fastfoward
- Cold War- ( 1945 - 1991)

The Cold war is starting, and  the communist party Banned opium trade and production. 85 % of opium use and production dropped in the communist countries. Here china being well funded because of a new government is now well armed
USA fund afgans to fight the soviet union during this period and the soviets lose.


-Vietnam War -(1959 - 1975)

The USA being the UKs allie the USA fights to stop communism in south asia which fails. But the opium production that had been in south asia is probubly brought back from Dead American soldier caskets.
Making opium drug traffic undectable.During the 1970s opium use increases dramatically.

- Afganistan war -(2001 - present)

(Taliban - banned opium production while in power)
The US goes to war with Afganistan because of a 9/11 attack.
The Taliban is out of power and the worlds opium supply is 90% from Afganistan.
As the number of US and allie soldiers dying rises Maybe all the opium that is being produced is being smuggled in the caskets of these soldiers making it undectable.

- Fact -
Opium = morphine , Oxycontin , hydros , percs, herion etc
Having no charge to make these pain pills.
which being addicted to pills is an
epidemic in USA and EURO countries.
Means no way of detecting where its coming from directly and more money to corrupt governments.

maybe thats the intention of these wars

Edited by SteakNMushVroom (09/12/09 11:52 PM)

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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: SteakNMushVroom]
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The cost of the war outweighs the amount of money to be made off of meager amounts of opium. A casket full of opium would only make a small amount of heroin. Not small by you or my standards, but small compared to the price of the war.


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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: ThePheonix]
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These accusations are false. I was in afghanistan on tour. We were encouraged to give crops in trade of poppy plants that were immediately destroyed. It still continues, we trade crop for exchange for theirs then we destroy. I was on hauling duty which hauled the poppies in the middle of no where to be burned which I witnessed.

Obama is making an effort to convert their cash crop. The only thing I give credit to that guy for.


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Edited by djmako7 (09/14/09 03:41 PM)

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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: djmako7]
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Doesnt really matter if u were on tour, dont u think while u were "doing the right thing" someone else was in the other parts of the country gettin it ready to ship out , plus having this war as u can see older gov officals prolly invested into gold long before the wars, and havin a war brings up the gold valve outragiously, theres more too it, i just really dont feel like writing and researching a whole lot. just a plan and simple though about it summerized

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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: SteakNMushVroom]
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your information on the Vietnam war is also wrong. Vietnam was a french colony, not british.

you also over-reduce the various leftist movements in south east asia, into just communism;

aahhh well, there are just a lot of errors in your history.


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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: SteakNMushVroom]
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SteakNMushVroom said:
This is just my thoughts about it if you have the patiences read it

Back in the 1800 s The British was selling opium to china
The chinese government took measures to ban this opium trade
which started the opium wars




Your information is wrong. The british east india trading co. imported opium to china. The opium came from india which was occupied by the brits.
India was trading opium to china before even being occupied.
The struggle between 2 top drug lords when the Qin Dynasty government banned the import of Opium. This was the creation of the opium wars.

The governments lost control after this point.


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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: djmako7]
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the brits ruled the indians so meaning the brits would force the indians to trade with china / and never said the brits took over vietnam nor there was a brit colony, french just kept gettin there asses beat for a good 30 yrs to try and colonize vietnam

theres more to it i just did a terrible summerizing if i actually cared to put alot of detail into it. just tried to summerized it

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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: SteakNMushVroom]
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I thought the Chinese sold it to the British?


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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: Deltron3030]
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Deltron3030 said:
I thought the Chinese sold it to the British?


Before Britain occupied India yes.


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Re: Opium : A view on why USA is really fighting Wars [Re: SteakNMushVroom]
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proper spelling, punctuation, and historical citation are usually helpful in communicating ideas, especially in political discussions.


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