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Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial?
    #1104609 - 12/02/02 06:36 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

On the way to phoenix this weekend we stopped to camp with some hippies. Heard some of their weird philosophies that had about aliens and such.
Heres some of their ideas i got:

-extra-dimensional beings penetrated the US government a long time ago, giving them new technology so they have abilities to do things beyond our wildest imaginations. In exchanged they have taken over most of the main military bases, and abduct humans for cloning in order to strenghthen their own race.

-Soon, 1/3 of the population will be whiped out in order to be controlled since it was these entities that sent us to this planet in the first place, along with sending our race to other planets to see what happened.

-"well i've seen a UFO before but it was man-made, but i could tell the technology was given to them my aliens" i heard at one point, lol

sounds all pretty whacked to me, but those ideas are fun to think about, who knows?

and the whole extra-dimensional idea was pretty neat, i'm more of a believer in that than outer-space aliens since our brains hide so much from us, maybe they are hiding mulitple races and the different sides of other beings..


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Jenny]
    #1104671 - 12/02/02 06:59 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I believe we will contact aliens through our minds rather than contacting them physically. We just need a few more centuries of evolution first.


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What if all the world you think you know,
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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Murex]
    #1104679 - 12/02/02 07:02 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I believe on high doses of Dmt you can come in contact with "aliens" or whatever you wanna call em.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: psilocybinist]
    #1104691 - 12/02/02 07:07 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I've heard about using Shamans using DMT for spiritual development, but i'm too chicken to try it, sounds too scary.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Jenny]
    #1104695 - 12/02/02 07:08 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Have you done Salvia?


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Murex]
    #1104710 - 12/02/02 07:15 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Nope, I am very interested in trying it but just havn't had the money to order some. I probably won't get the chance, because it is looking like it is going to be illegal very soon.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: psilocybinist]
    #1104728 - 12/02/02 07:20 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Would be very difficult to make the ingredients illegal as there are hundreds of DMT-containing plants.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Swami]
    #1104736 - 12/02/02 07:22 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

It can still be illegal.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Murex]
    #1104752 - 12/02/02 07:32 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

It can still be illegal.

Phalaris Arundinacea is basically just GRASS Murex. And as such, pretty darned hard to control/regulate. From what I've read of recent extraction methods the DMT therein contained can be obtained  via a common wheat grass extractor. If you want the smokable form, you would still have to go through the normal acid/base format, which is way too complicated pour moi....personally, i think i'd much prefer trying it(the extraction of the Phalaris) after injesting some syrian rue.....i don't know that i am psychologically prepared for the onslaught of psychedelic FX as described by McKenna et al..... :blush: 


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #1104767 - 12/02/02 07:39 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Trying to regulate something is harder than making it illegal.  :wink:


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Murex]
    #1104788 - 12/02/02 07:51 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Murex : Have you done salvia?

psilocybinist : Nope, I am very interested in trying it but just havn't had the money to order some. I probably won't get the chance, because it is looking like it is going to be illegal very soon.

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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Jenny]
    #1104807 - 12/02/02 07:58 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

It wouldn't surprise me if that was going on right now, infact I think it is quite probable. The first human clone is going to be born, if that is not alien enough for you, I don't know what is.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Jenny]
    #1104896 - 12/02/02 08:28 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Did they mention what type of "aliens" they were referring to?  :crazy:

By the way, I have had information communicated to me by who-knows-what along the same lines as  "since it was these entities that sent us to this planet in the first place, along with sending our race to other planets"... 


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Jenny]
    #1104985 - 12/02/02 08:49 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

In the past people didn't experience aliens. They experienced angels and demons and what have you. I think perhaps these "aliens" are just different parts of the sub-conscious mind. Much like the deites/demons,hero's/villian's of the second bardo. http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/psychedelics/psychdlc.html


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1105034 - 12/02/02 09:01 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Nice link 3 eyed God.....i wonder if anybody ELSE here(or will admit to it anyway) has that pink covered LP with black print  "The Psychedelic Experience" complete with inner sleeve booklet all courtesy of Alpert, Metzner and Leary.....step forward and annouce your selves! :grin: 


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1105053 - 12/02/02 09:07 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Exactly.

The mind is the greatest and most unexplored part of humanity.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: ]
    #1105092 - 12/02/02 09:26 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

The mind is the greatest and most unexplored part of humanity.

How so? How are you so sure that there are not greater things to be explored? I think that is just your PERSONAL opinion. It should in no way be accepted as a true statement.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105559 - 12/02/02 11:44 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

The collective mind is the most complex and unexplored "thing" here. It drives all, IMO.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105569 - 12/02/02 11:47 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

What do you think is the greatest most unexplored part of humanity. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it seems to me that your arguing for the sake of argument.


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Re: Extra dimensional instead of extra treestrial? [Re: Murex]
    #1105898 - 12/03/02 01:20 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

nope, actually some i was hanging in pheonix with shroomerites this weekend and i heard them talking about salvia for a long time..talking about how it takes you to places and you think you're there, like "i could've sworn i was on the street waiting for a bus with some friends and i was sitting in a dark living room," and just heard a lot of crazy out of body dissassociating experiences. I'm done with psychedelics, or else i may try it. I think salvias neat in teh way it only work if you get a certain amount of it in you i a certain amount of time, whereas amount doesn't matter.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.


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