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OfflineJalruza
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'Fractal' dimension - the meat and potatoes of multidimensionality
    #4650708 - 09/12/05 04:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Put on your red and blue glasses boys and girls, your about to go for a ride....

Im getting strange salvia like flashbacks lately. I havent'd done the stuff in ages and when i did i never used to have any flashbacks, but i know people who did.... SO what exactly is this fractal dimension? Anyone? I think Ph.D in Pshyconaty would require you to obtain some level trance where one could see 'into' fractal D without Sally...

Its incredible just how many extra cencory activities are out there just waiting to be picked upon.

You take all the physical dimeensional characteristic, vision, hearing, touch smell tatse, then you add unseen forces energy, emission ultra sounds and vibrations that contribute to environment, you got quite a list. Then you start working with gravity, elementals, astral, spiritual world, and then you get fractal and other unbeknown phenomena...

I think factal is tied with gravity in one way or another, or gravity tied to fractal?

By the way i hope everyones up to date. What i mean by fractal D. is - A world inside a laser beam. Hmmmmmmmmmm, one thing i know for sure about fractal is when you there, you have access to its vast resources and power, and you have to stay centred and be sure what you doing, because when the exitment builds to titanian level, dont rush and make a half arsed job of it. I found its like touching a very sensetive nerve area, perhaps brain, crown chakra OR your eye! Was taking a contact lense out this evening and when i touched eye with finger i quickly grabed lense out. Theres nothing wrong with taking a lense out like this, unless you poke you eye and it hurts for a while :wink: But in the fractal, this urge to get the job done - it makes all difference. You have to be smooth like a Bombay hootah.

I dont know if my rumbing makes any sense but perhaps You would like to share your scientific findings as well. Feel free to do so below  :cool:


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And It's taking us fast to a brand new free dimension
Too cool to mention well that's the intention
But some of us too dame blind to see
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Re: 'Fractal' dimension - the meat and potatoes of multidimensionality [Re: Jalruza]
    #4651028 - 09/12/05 05:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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What i mean by fractal D. is - A world inside a laser beam.




Would you explain that please, maybe then i could understand you a bit more. Ty  :blush:


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Re: 'Fractal' dimension - the meat and potatoes of multidimensionality [Re: AngeloWish]
    #4652705 - 09/13/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Dark matter highlights extra dimensions
Three new 'directions' could explain astronomical puzzle.
Philip Ball







In a spin: the twirling of galaxies reveals a mystery. Dark matter seems to be attracted to itself, and more so in smaller galaxies.

? NASA/JPL-Caltech/SSC

Welcome to the fourth dimension. And the fifth, and the sixth. A team of astrophysicists claims to have identified evidence that space is six-dimensional.

Joseph Silk of the University of Oxford, UK, and his co-workers say that these extra spatial dimensions can be inferred from the perplexing behaviour of dark matter. This mysterious stuff cannot be seen, but its presence in galaxies is betrayed by the gravitational tug that it exerts on visible stars.

Silk and his colleagues looked at how dark matter behaves differently in small galaxies and large clusters of galaxies. In the smaller ones, dark matter seems to be attracted to itself quite strongly. But in the large galactic clusters this doesn't seem to be the case: strongly interacting dark matter should produce cores of dark material bigger than those that are actually there, as deduced from the way the cluster spins.

One explanation, they say, is that three extra dimensions, in addition to the three spatial ones to which we are accustomed, are altering the effects of gravity over very short distances of about a nanometre1.

The team argues that such astronomical observations of dark matter provide the first potential evidence for extra dimensions. Others are supportive, but unconvinced. Lisa Randall, a Harvard physicist who has explored the possibility of extra spatial dimensions, says "Even if their idea works, which it probably does, it may be an overstatement to use these observations as evidence of extra dimensions."

Silk himself acknowledges that the proposal is "extremely speculative".

Too small to see

Physicists have suspected for years that 'hidden' dimensions exist, largely because they seem to be predicted by string theory, the current favourite for a theory of fundamental subatomic particles.

These extra dimensions are generally thought to be tiny: many billions of times smaller than atoms. This would make these dimensions very hard to detect, explaining why the Universe looks as if it has just three. Physicists such as Randall, however, have proposed that some extra dimensions might be relatively big, but inaccessible to us.

The extra dimensions that Silk and colleagues say they have identified are likewise 'big', at about a nanometre across. In other words, they say, the Universe is only about a nanometre wide in these three 'directions'.

They argue that the force of gravity does not obey Isaac Newton's famous laws over small distances, where these dimensions come into play. This has never been tested experimentally: no one has measured how gravity behaves over distances below about a hundredth of a millimetre.

Dark stranger

This variation in gravity, says Silk, could be why dark matter behaves differently in different galactic environments.

According to one interpretation of the astronomical observations, dark matter, which is thought to account for 85% of all the mass in the Universe but not to be made from the known fundamental particles, seems to attract itself through some unknown force. And this attraction seems to be stronger in dwarf galaxies than in galactic clusters. This is very odd: it is rather as if apples were to fall faster from single trees than from trees in an orchard.

But the attraction isn't due to an unknown force, argue Silk and his colleagues, but to the effect of extra dimensions on gravity. And because dark matter particles are accelerated to higher speeds in massive galactic clusters than in dwarf galaxies, they spend less time close to each other, so the effects of these extra dimensions are felt less.

Radical answer
There are other ways of explaining the puzzling dark-matter distributions, admits Silk's colleague Ue-Li Pen of the University of Toronto in Canada. For example, one could assume that the rate at which stars explode, as supernovae, was quite different in the past.

"Personally, I think changing the supernovae rate is more conservative than changing the number of spatial dimensions," Pen confesses. But he thinks that invoking extra dimensions is such an exciting idea that it is worth investigating, "even if it is a long shot".

The most popular versions of string theory suggest that there are as many as eight extra dimensions, not just three. But thankfully this needn't be a problem. There's no reason why, in addition to the three large extra dimensions predicted by Silk and colleagues, there might not be several other small ones too.


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Re: 'Fractal' dimension - the meat and potatoes of multidimensionality [Re: indica]
    #4653840 - 09/13/05 04:21 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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xk3m_indica said:
Dark matter highlights extra dimensions
Three new 'directions' could explain astronomical puzzle.
Philip Ball





I am not understanding, what purpose do the 6th and so forth dimensions serve?


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Re: 'Fractal' dimension - the meat and potatoes of multidimensionality [Re: Jalruza]
    #4653845 - 09/13/05 04:27 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Ewok said:

By the way i hope everyones up to date. What i mean by fractal D. is - A world inside a laser beam. Hmmmmmmmmmm, one thing i know for sure about fractal is when you there, you have access to its vast resources and power, and you have to stay centred and be sure what you doing, because when the exitment builds to titanian level, dont rush and make a half arsed job of it. I found its like touching a very sensetive nerve area, perhaps brain, crown chakra OR your eye! Was taking a contact lense out this evening and when i touched eye with finger i quickly grabed lense out. Theres nothing wrong with taking a lense out like this, unless you poke you eye and it hurts for a while :wink: But in the fractal, this urge to get the job done - it makes all difference. You have to be smooth like a Bombay hootah.




I liked this paragraph. I was at a psy-trance party one time, tripping in this giant cave. The DJ was spinning and a bunch of trippers and some rollers were dancing to the music. You know they were rollers because of the repetitive motion they did over and over and over again. Instead of dancing though, I walked through the crowd, all the way up to the DJ's pedestal and the visualizer. Then I closed my eyes.

A tunnel of closed eye visions hit me. A kaleidoscope of visions and new worlds was unveiling itself before me. I started moving around, as if doing tai-chi. I felt that I was moving energy. The feeling is completely undescribable, something that can only be experienced. A plane of higher level cognitive was in my grasp for a few short moments.


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