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OfflineDogomush
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Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement
    #1575519 - 05/25/03 01:29 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Have you guys ever been really high on mushrooms and syrian rue and understood that pyramids are the best think a human could ever make? Or am I the only one?

I guess the logic is that a pyramid is a huge huge perfectly porportioned pile of rocks that serve no practical purpose. There's something very human about building them...

Oh I know, people are going to tell me they serve all kinds of purposes, but do they REALLY?? I mean sure they must have right? But what the fuck would you do if you had a pyramid in your backyard? Make money off it and stand on the top in cool poses when the sun sets. No purpose, FIN.

But there's something about the whole shape that made sense while I was really high.. what was it? There's the obvious one.. the power structure thing of a king on the top and then it spreads out into the masses lords, knights, peasants.. that whole thing, but there's something else going on there. It's a metaphor for society, and when a civilization is united and strong, pyramids spring up like mushrooms on a rainy day.

Again, sure sure there are lots of logistics and hard work to build a pyramid, but if you were outside the human race looking at us at a different speed, like geologic time, say you were a rock, this civilization would scramble about you like ants and then BAM a pyramid would be there and the civilization would rot and fade away blah blah blah.

Pyramids just happen. That was what I was figuring out on these crazy, crazy drugs. I had this feeling of "shit wow I could do anything with my life.. I could build a pyramid for no reason! COOL!!"

I mean, I don't know if these builders were delusional, I guess they were by our standards, but another thing I got out of that trip is that everybody is insane, but luckily we are collectively insane so we can all get along. Every now and then you see the true insane people gathering around the gas station at midnight drawn out like moths to the florescent humming lights and the top forty radio station playing loudly but undecipherably and this person looks at you, smiles, asks how tall you are and brags about their nightly microwave burrito and ice cold coke-a-cola. But are they really insane? YES, but so are we. WE. We are all insane, collectively insane, just like the pyramid builders.

I mean, they built these pyramids, and it served a purpose, but it was totally unnecessary REALLY because if only they would open their minds and be capitalists like us they would realize there's no reason to do anything if it doesn't turn a profit. I guess that's why I think pyramids are the greatest thing we've ever done.. profitless piles of rock that people died to make. We've lost whatever those guys had going on. But hey, money's cool too.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575537 - 05/25/03 01:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


Uh...................yeah.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575551 - 05/25/03 01:37 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

you love it


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575561 - 05/25/03 01:40 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


Uh..................yeah.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575565 - 05/25/03 01:41 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

you want it


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575573 - 05/25/03 01:43 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Murex, let's talk, I mean, I see your name all the time but I just don't know who.. or what.. you are.

Me I like long walks on the beach, easy-listening pop music is the backdrop of my aural universe, and I like neat and tidy stuff, like music videos. I don't like gross stuff like long-haired dogs and unswept kitchen floors *gags thinking about it*

So tell me about yourself, let's adress eachother and have a "moment"


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575595 - 05/25/03 01:50 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


Well, I like to think, medatate and make music or artwork. Today I drew some hot alien chicks. I listen to Tool, but I mostly like techno. I like music videos too- I want to eventually make my own, err be a producer guy or something. I hate whores.......and midgets.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575605 - 05/25/03 01:55 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

all right.. well everything I said was lies, but maybe eventually I'll open up to you.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575620 - 05/25/03 01:59 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


I lied about hating midgets. I really like them actually, them make me laugh.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575627 - 05/25/03 02:02 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

you know, my great great aunt and uncle were midgets.. circus midgets.. and I'm 6' 8"


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575642 - 05/25/03 02:09 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Do you think that midgets have midget dicks too? :confused: 


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575645 - 05/25/03 02:10 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Wow! Midgets can have non-midget offspring?  :shocked:


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575660 - 05/25/03 02:16 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Oh god that reminds me of a horrible story.  In high school we had this girl that was in a wheel chair.  Normal size head but tiny body.  No neck, arms, or legs.  Just torso, head, hands and feat.  She ended up marrying this big fat guy, and against her parents wishes and doctors advise, she got pregnant.  The baby was born super premature and after nearly 8 months  in the that baby was released.  Luckily the baby turned out fine, but what really freaked me out is trying to figure out how they had sex in the first place.  :shocked: :confused: :frown: :crazy: 


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1575665 - 05/25/03 02:19 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


Rape?


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1575668 - 05/25/03 02:22 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

midgets with midget dicks.. I don't know. I guess a midget is small but in porportion whereas a dwarf is all cooky with big head tiny body and such. I wonder if dwarves have huge dicks to match their heads.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575698 - 05/25/03 02:41 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

im sleepy. good night


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1575703 - 05/25/03 02:48 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

gnight rock on


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575709 - 05/25/03 02:53 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

dwarves are more pyramid-like than midgets, IMO..

uhh can we still mention pyramids here?

I liked your connection between physical man-made pyramids and the "pyramid" structure of various "hierarchies" which manage most man-made "organizations" or "civilizations" or "associations" or "corporation" or whatever..

Its possible that the egyptians built the pyramids to represent "us" (man whenever I type the word "us" I wonder if the founders of the USA [or.. "US"] noticed that too..). Neat things, them pyramids :wink:

edit(addition): oh and I'll be having a midget porn-party at the place on wednesday... any sized people invited - free beer and midget-sex!


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Strumpling]
    #1575723 - 05/25/03 03:07 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yeah they are very neat indeed.. pyramids are full of all these mysteries. It's the eternal immortal toy. It can awe the simpleminded with its size and perfection and then the mathematicians have all this shit to say as well and the spiritual people can explain the pyramids in a nice fruity manner. There's something for everyone in a pyramid. Craftsmen can marvel at the skill in the laying of the blocks, politicians can wonder how anyone could organize people to do that, and the list is endless.

I guess basically that's what a pyramid is.. a toy. I mean, I don't know what they ARE but that's what they are to us which means.. that's what they is


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575740 - 05/25/03 03:19 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I dig cones too


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Strumpling]
    #1575764 - 05/25/03 03:25 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

oh, sure sure cones are ok, but.. are they really as cool as pyramids? An ice cone spell with a 30m radius in dungeons and dragons is cooool


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575775 - 05/25/03 03:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

well I mean the image of a cone or a funnel/tornado-type "thing" is always really cool to me lol


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575877 - 05/25/03 05:38 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I wouldn't give all the credit to humans. Aliens had a big part in the pyramids as well. Don't the pyramids allign with a certain constellation from above? Navigation if you ask me.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1575899 - 05/25/03 06:32 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, some align exactly like orions belt or something


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1575901 - 05/25/03 06:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

not that it was something they couldve done with aliens...come on...


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1575938 - 05/25/03 08:26 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

There is much evidence that suggests the Egyptians did not build the pyramids. For one, no existing dynastic records, paintings, or friezes show how the pyramids were contructed. It is a fantastic structure even by modern standards, and yet even today we do not have the capacity to erect such a precise structure as the Great Pyramid.

It is said that the fourth dynasty Egyptians built the pyramids, the kings of Khufu, Khafra, and Menkaura, yet there are many holes in this theory.
First, the Great Pyramid has approximately 2,300,000 limestone and granite blocks weighing between 2.5 and 50 tons each..these stones had to be quarried. Egyptologists claim that the simple copper and bronze saws the fourth dynasty egyptians had were used for the cutting and shaping of the blocks. However, copper and bronze are only barely able to cut through limestone, and would be completely useless trying to cut through granite, based on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness. No examples of iron tools are found in early dynastic egypt, yet even if they were, the best steel of today only has a hardness of 5.5 and are very inefficient for cutting granite. It was suggested the Egyptians used diamond-studded blades to cut through the limestones and granite.. but this would require millions of rare and expensive diamonds or corundum, which would constantly wear out and require replacement. Others suggested the limestone blocks were somehow cut with solutions of citrid acid and vinegar, yet these very slow acting agents would leave the surface of the limestone pitted and rough..when each block was cut so precise and beautifully smooth that it would seem like a laser cut through it. The fact is, we have no idea how the blocks were quarried.

Then of course you have to consider how all 2,300,000 some-odd blocks weighing tons were transported upstream fifty miles from the site they were quarried from, and taken to the almost 500 feet of the pyramids top. A danish engineer calculated that building a ramp to the top of the pyramid would require 17.5 million cubic meters of material..this being more than 7 times the amount of material used for the pyramid itself, and a work force of more than 240,000 to build it in the time alloted in Cheop's reign. But the ramp itself would require 300,000 laborers as much as eight years to dismantle it. Where did all this ramp material go, since it is nowhere to be found anywhere near the pyramids? And what of manuevering the precisely carved blocks into place without damaging the corners? Where did all these laborers sleep, and where did they get their food? Where did they get the logs which were allegedly used to roll the blocks up the ramps..trees are scarce in Egypt, and needed for shade. And why are there no records of construction, if some 500,000 men were involved, utilizing very advanced engineering feats even by today's standards?

Even more compelling evidence, is the sediments surrounding the base of the monuments. Silt sediments rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly 12,000 years old. These sediments could only have been deposited in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic egyptians could never have recorded because they were living 8,000 years after the flood. This suggests the Giza pyramids are at least 12,000 years old...4,000 years older than the first Egyptian civilization. When the Great Pyramid was first opened, incrustation of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of the salt is known to be a natural exudation from the stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a mineral content consisten with salt from the sea. These salt incrustations, at a height corresponding to the water level marks on the exterior are further evidence that at ome time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up it's height.

This is only the tip of the iceberg.. and I skipped a lot of other facts.

Now let's mention some fun facts:
~ The sides of the pyramid lines up almost exactly with the cardinal points of the compass
~ The Great Pyramid functions as a giant sundial
~ The basic dimensions of the Great Pyramid incorporate measurements from which the Earth's size and shape can be calculated. The pyramid is a scale model of the hemisphere, incorporating the geographical degrees of latitude and longitude. The latitude and longitude lines that intersect at the Great Pyramid (30 degrees north and 31 degrees east) cross more of the earth's land surface than any other lines, thus the pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth (the pyramid is built on the closest suitable site to this intersection). The original perimeter of the pyramid equals exactly one-half minute of latitude at the equator, indicating that its builders measured the earth with extreme precision and recorded this information in the dimensions of the structure. Altogether these measurements show that the builders knew the exact dimensions of the planet as precisely as they have been recently determined by satellite surveys.
~ The foundation of the Great Pyramid is amazingly level., No corner of its base is more than one-half inch higher or lower than the others. Considering that the pyramid's base covers more than thirteen acres, this near-perfect leveling far exceeds even the finest architectural standards of the present day.
~ Measurements throughout the pyramid show that its constructors knew of the proportions of pi (3.14...), phi or the Golden Mean (1.618), and the "Pythagorean" triangles thousands of years before Pythagoras, the so-called father of geometry, lived.
~ Measurements show that the builders knew the precise spherical shape and size of the earth and had accurately charted such complex astronomical events as the precession of the equinoxes and the lunar standstill dates. The minute discrepancies of the lengths of the base of the pyramid (several inches over the 230 meter length of its base) reveal not an error on the part of the builders but an ingenious means of incorporating into the pyramid the "discrepancies" of the earth itself, in this case the flattening of the earth's globe at the poles, or a pole shift.
~ Shafts leading upward from the two main chambers, previously thought to be air shafts for ventilation, have been shown to have another purpose. A miniature electronic robot mechanically crawled sixty-five meters up the shafts and confirmed that the south and north shafts in the Kings Chamber are pointed to Al Nitak (Zeta Orionis) and Alpha Draconis respectively, while the south and north shafts of the Queens Chamber point to Sirius and Orion. The scientists conducting this research have shown that the layout of the three pyramids on the Giza plateau precisely mirror the position of the three main stars in the Orion constellation.
~ The three Pyramids also line up precisely with the logarithmic spiral.

Whoever built the GIza Pyramids, encoded much precise mathematical, geographic, and astronomical information into the structures, far above the level and ability of the dynastic Egyptians, and even modern construction techniques.

Not to mention the Sphinx is nearly 10,000 years older than the pyramids..

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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1576055 - 05/25/03 11:05 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Come on Bud.  Everybody  knows the dinosaurs built the pyramids.

Sheesh :wink:

:grin:

Nice post Shroomism.  Very informative.  Thumbs up!


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Strumpling]
    #1576646 - 05/25/03 06:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

dogomush-
you speak of a united, strong society....but if the egyptians were so united, why did they need slaves? hmmm? or are you just a racist?


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1576661 - 05/25/03 06:54 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

well, I think the problem is rooted in your simpleminded institutionalized education, funksoldier.

The egyptians didn't use slaves to build the pyramids, this we know, and to refer to the egyptians as slave drivers is stupid because you can't generalize 4000 years of egyptians like that. You can't say that in ALL those 4000 years the egyptians were the same culture. They would have changed with every generation.

But yes I am a racist


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1576667 - 05/25/03 06:57 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

but they were all egyptians right? so what the fuck is the difference?

you throw around big words like "institutionalized" and "education" like you actually know what they mean.

to me....hehe....such behaviour is comical, yet sad.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1576671 - 05/25/03 06:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ding ding dong ding

hear that? It's the institution calling you. Is the bell making you drool yet, you mindless slave?


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1576683 - 05/25/03 07:05 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)


hehe, good one champ, Its interesting to talk to someone who recieves all of their "knowledge" from movies and television, its kind of like a anthropological study.

hey....does your little hippy community still have those meetings where you guys pick the lice from each others hair? wow....that is so...."organic".

keep it up!


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1576691 - 05/25/03 07:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

wow.. you are so ignorant.. but what can one expect from a rusty cog working away in the big machine? Why don't you try this? .... WAKE UP!!!!

As for lice, we don't have it out here, because we don't spend time cramming into disease infested skytrains exchanging pathogens like SARS.

I hope you slip on a dirty heroin needle and die. Oh wait, you're already dead, in fact, you've never been alive.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1576694 - 05/25/03 07:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

"As for lice, we don't have it out here"

really? have you looked in the mirror lately?

lice, plural of "louse"

louse: Any of numerous small, flat-bodied, wingless biting or sucking insects of the orders Mallophaga or Anoplura, many of which are external parasites on various animals, including humans.

hmmm, parasites who suck the blood of humans....smells like hippy to me.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1576700 - 05/25/03 07:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Louse...

yeah just keep filling up your mind with worthless knowledge for thousands of dollars a "year." Learn to play the game bitch, cause guess what? Now I know what a louse is and I didn't pay to find out. Looks like some of us are resourceful great apes capable of tapping infinite sources for sustenance and knowledge whereas some of us (you) are simple sea cows eating sea vegetation and getting sliced by motors of the occassional tourist filled boat which is basically a convoluted metaphor to explain that you are an idiot.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1576706 - 05/25/03 07:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I could go out today and build a massive geometrical structure out of titanium. THousands of years from now some scientists could probably examine the hell out of that structure and derive some amazing mathematical theory from it and claim i was a genius thousands of years ahead of my time. "Look if you measure this and that and apply the whatever formula you will have the secret of the quantum singularity drive, the guy who build this seemingly meaningless monument knew that"




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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1576710 - 05/25/03 07:29 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yes, you are a very resourceful person, and Im sure that later on in life your resourcefulness will come in handy when you scoure the city for pop bottles and half-eaten cheeseburgers.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1576720 - 05/25/03 07:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

mmmm hmmmm yes irrelevant insults designed for the masses are very effective. I suggest you get out of the habit of using mass-produced weightless insults and start customizing them for the person.

Anyway, bye bye I gotta go have fun wankin


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1576911 - 05/25/03 10:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Under a strictly enforced Be Nice policy at least two warning would have been issued. As it was it didn't get entirely out of hand. Let's try to focus on the argument instead of the person.

That way I don't have to issue any warnings and I'd rather not do that.

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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1576971 - 05/25/03 10:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Pyrimids served as burial grounds for kings, and for releigious purposes.


Sure a huge amazing Cathedrals gains us no profit, but we still built them, right?

no diffrent.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Sombie]
    #1577021 - 05/25/03 10:52 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

"Sure a huge amazing Cathedrals gains us no profit,"

wrong. I will explain later when I have more time.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1577317 - 05/26/03 12:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


Pyramids are cool and all, but I see no point to their existance other than religious.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Dogomush]
    #1577440 - 05/26/03 01:40 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

LSD is mankind's greatest achievement.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Sombie]
    #1577443 - 05/26/03 01:42 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

murex-
"Pyramids are cool and all, but I see no point to their existance other than religious. "

what is their religious significance?


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1577455 - 05/26/03 01:45 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

They served as the king's room while he took the long journey to the afterlife


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Sombie]
    #1577462 - 05/26/03 01:49 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

wow, thats a very convoluted tomb..........hmmmm...seems a bit simplistic, when one takes into consideration all the time and energy it took to build them.

but, i guess if the royal family had complete control of everyone's minds for hundreds of years, such a thing would be possible.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1577823 - 05/26/03 06:30 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Discuss.
*sigh* We have been here many time before with the same tired "arguments". Is that poorly written and researched Time-Life series on ancient mysteries your "source"?

There is much evidence that suggests the Egyptians did not build the pyramids. For one, no existing dynastic records, paintings, or friezes show how the pyramids were contructed.
Nor or there any records showing saucers lifting the blocks. So what? How does a lack of a record PROVE that someone else built them? It only proves that there are a lack of records.

It is a fantastic structure even by modern standards, and yet even today we do not have the capacity to erect such a precise structure as the Great Pyramid.
Puh-lease! Any modern skycraper is magnitudes beyond the pyramids in engineering.

The fact is, we have no idea how the blocks were quarried.
Perhaps so; perhaps not. Either way our ignorance in Eqyptian mining technology hardly points to the stars.

Even more compelling evidence, is...
*Geological musings deleted*
At best this this points to a dating problem not a whodunnit problem.

This is only the tip of the iceberg.. and I skipped a lot of other facts.
We appreciate the respite.

Now let's mention some fun facts:
*Much numerology gibberish deleted*
Fun fact #1: There is NOTHING linking the pyramids to a star-faring race.

Whoever built the GIza Pyramids, encoded much precise mathematical, geographic, and astronomical information into the structures, far above the level and ability of the dynastic Egyptians...
In your opinion only. The fact that they exist says that it was well within the engineering level of these people who clearly demonstrated brilliance in farming, social structure, science, art, writing, etc.

Not to mention the Sphinx is nearly 10,000 years older than the pyramids..
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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Swami]
    #1577836 - 05/26/03 07:08 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I can see someone doesn't believe in aliens.


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    #1577847 - 05/26/03 07:36 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think colored Goldfish crackers are among man's highest achievements.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Swami]
    #1577855 - 05/26/03 07:49 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

I think colored Goldfish crackers are among man's highest achievements.




well ,they really are quite delicious...;)


oh, *ahem*.. uh yeah... pyramids, right :laugh:
i'd like to think that at some point in our human history we were capable of constructing such amazing things even if we were much less technologically advanced than we are now....  but until i see hieroglyphs of ufo's beaming around giant blocks, slaves dragging blocks or some equivilent proof, i won't be able to say for sure who i think built them.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Clean]
    #1577863 - 05/26/03 08:07 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

The pyramids where built as a burial chamber for the pharao and he believed it would bring him life after death.

There is a pretty snazzy documentary made about the construction of the pyramids which explains in detail just about everything. the cgi is nice to.


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    #1577868 - 05/26/03 08:18 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i may have seen the one your talking about... although it seems like there's a new TV special every year explaining just how exactly the pyramids were built.

do they actually have any evidence backing up the graphics, or is it just a slickly animated, CGI pseudo re-enactment of how a group of experts think they might have been built??


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Clean]
    #1577875 - 05/26/03 08:29 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

its probably a slick animated CGI pseudo re-enactment of how a group of experts think they where built.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Clean]
    #1577960 - 05/26/03 10:44 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

There's so much hate and whining in this topic. We all need to take some shrooms and have an orgy to become friends.


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    #1578675 - 05/26/03 04:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: ]
    #1578741 - 05/26/03 05:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, lets talk about pyramids instead.


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    #1579409 - 05/26/03 09:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You people?

Read the Be Nice policy.  :smirk:


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    #1580133 - 05/27/03 01:50 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Clean]
    #1580219 - 05/27/03 02:20 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)


do they actually have any evidence backing up the graphics, or is it just a slickly animated, CGI pseudo re-enactment of how a group of experts think they might have been built??

Heh, I love thoze toothbrush and mouthwash commertials with the cgi graphics that show it works. I mean, if it's cgi, it must work just like they show you right? Hahaha! That only works for people like my mother.

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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Murex]
    #1580270 - 05/27/03 02:37 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Discuss.
*sigh* We have been here many time before with the same tired "arguments". Is that poorly written and researched Time-Life series on ancient mysteries your "source"?


No, I do my research from many credible Egyptologists.


There is much evidence that suggests the Egyptians did not build the pyramids. For one, no existing dynastic records, paintings, or friezes show how the pyramids were contructed.
Nor or there any records showing saucers lifting the blocks. So what? How does a lack of a record PROVE that someone else built them? It only proves that there are a lack of records.


I did not say saucers lifted the blocks, I said the Egyptians did not build them, because they existed 4,000 years or more before their first society.


It is a fantastic structure even by modern standards, and yet even today we do not have the capacity to erect such a precise structure as the Great Pyramid.
Puh-lease! Any modern skycraper is magnitudes beyond the pyramids in engineering.


Please explain. The pyramids have lasted thousands of years, through earthquake, flood, and any natural disaster you can throw at it, and they will likely be standing for many more thousands of years.


The fact is, we have no idea how the blocks were quarried.
Perhaps so; perhaps not. Either way our ignorance in Eqyptian mining technology hardly points to the stars.


I did not point to the stars in my post, the passages in the great pyramid do.

Now let's mention some fun facts:
*Much numerology gibberish deleted*
Fun fact #1: There is NOTHING linking the pyramids to a star-faring race.


Nor did I say there was, besides stating the fact that the chambers were pointed towards certain star systems.

Whoever built the GIza Pyramids, encoded much precise mathematical, geographic, and astronomical information into the structures, far above the level and ability of the dynastic Egyptians...
In your opinion only. The fact that they exist says that it was well within the engineering level of these people who clearly demonstrated brilliance in farming, social structure, science, art, writing, etc.


Then why no record of the construction of the pyramids, when they left many records of all their other great achievements? Surely such a feat as building the Pyramids would elicit some many manuscripts and data from their construction? There is none.


Not to mention the Sphinx is nearly 10,000 years older than the pyramids..
Thanks for not mentioning this controversial "fact".


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1580280 - 05/27/03 02:40 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Sources. Sources. Sources?


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Sclorch]
    #1580412 - 05/27/03 03:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I do most of my research through books.. but here are some online
Sources
Sources
Sources
Sources
SourcesSources
Sources

That's just what I found in a few quick searches.

Also..remember when I said a few years ago that chambers would be found under the Sphinx?

http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/ -
Seismography. The seismic survey indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangular chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monuments front paws.
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    #1580991 - 05/27/03 11:26 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1581056 - 05/27/03 11:56 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I did not say saucers lifted the blocks,
Not in this thread, but you have stated in nearly identical threads that you believed that aliens built them. Please clarify your stance.

I said the Egyptians did not build them, because they existed 4,000 years or more before their first society.
So it was technologically impossible for the Egyptians to build them in your opinion, yet an older, which historically means technologically inferior, civilization of men made them? That doesn't make any sense.



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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Swami]
    #1581083 - 05/27/03 12:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

... yet an older, which historically means technologically inferior, civilization of men made them?



Older does not equal technologically inferior. It conceivable that certain knowledge is lost with the loss of a civilization, sort of like the dark ages.

I remember reading some years ago where a person came up with the theory that the blocks of the pyramids were actually poured and formed in place similar in some ways to concrete, this would explain the close tolerances between the stones.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1581086 - 05/27/03 12:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

The pyramids are nifty and all, but the math and all the amazing numbers surrounding them aren't special.

The reason so many nifty little coincidences were found? Hundreds and hundreds of idiots have wasted their time finding them. You could find equally amazing math in any structure on the planet, it's just you don't have such a huge following of new-age nutbars pouring over the numbers.

There never was any reason to believe that aliens had anything to do with the pyramids. The best information suggests that the pyramids were built by the Egyptians over a long period of time, we aren't exactly sure how they do it, but that doesn't mean you have to jump to conclusions.

I'm not exactly sure how they make Twinkies, but I think it's a safe bet that the people in the factories are using normal technology; no telepathy, no aliens.

As for the claim that the pyramids are more amazing than anything we could possibly construct today, I should point out you're sitting in front of a piece of technology that is a million times more advanced than the pyramids.

With todays technology, we could easily make pyramids. Huge slabs of stone are not hard to get, and we could just use cranes to lug it around.

We could probably even do a better job, the outside of the pyramids was extremely well measured and constructed, but nobody ever mentions the fact that the blocks on the inside aren't very well measured, and not well laid out.

So while the exact construction methods remain a mystery, there really isn't any good reason to believe that they were created by aliens.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1581094 - 05/27/03 12:19 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

"Nor did I say there was, besides stating the fact that the chambers were pointed towards certain star systems. "

If I were to randomly point my arms into the sky, I would be pointing directly at certain star systems. This is not evidence of ANYTHING.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Phluck]
    #1581134 - 05/27/03 12:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Just a bit more:

http://www.catchpenny.org/pyramid.html

http://www.catchpenny.org/ has lots of great pyramid information. It's not ridiculous pseudoscience, which is damn refreshing.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Swami]
    #1581136 - 05/27/03 12:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Not in this thread, but you have stated in nearly identical threads that you believed that aliens built them. Please clarify your stance.

Yes I did, but I specifically left that out of my post in this thread because I was stating facts, not opinion.




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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Swami]
    #1581139 - 05/27/03 12:42 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Not in this thread, but you have stated in nearly identical thr


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Evolving]
    #1581144 - 05/27/03 12:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Older does not equal technologically inferior. It conceivable that certain knowledge is lost with the loss of a civilization, sort of like the dark ages.

Stone age, copper age, bronze age, iron age, steel age... There may be small temporary setbacks, but the thrust of technology definitely moves forward. There is no historical evidence (other than speculation) that a pre-Egyptian dynasty was in any way superior.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Phluck]
    #1581151 - 05/27/03 12:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not exactly sure how they make Twinkies...

Twinkies is a shortened version of twinkling stars. How can you say that has nothing to do with outer space?


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Phluck]
    #1581157 - 05/27/03 12:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

If I were to randomly point my arms into the sky, I would be pointing directly at certain star systems.

Can you do this for us? I would assign extreme significance to whatever star system you point to.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Shroomism]
    #1582031 - 05/27/03 06:13 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Strumpling:
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I liked your connection between physical man-made pyramids and the "pyramid" structure of various "hierarchies" which manage most man-made "organizations" or "civilizations" or "associations" or "corporation" or whatever..




Yes, check out the illuminati symbol, actually i don't think there is only one meaning for it, but many. To me the floating top piece of the pyramind represents, atlantis, and god. (3 sided eye, 3rd eye??) (not to mention the concepts of one and many)

shroomism:
What about the underwater pyraminds? Atlantis, i know of one, but im betting there are alot more.


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1582991 - 05/27/03 11:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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(3 sided eye, 3rd eye??)




The Pyramids aren't three sided fella


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: Viveka]
    #1583036 - 05/28/03 12:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think he was reffering to the "illuminati pyramid"


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Re: Pyramids.. mankind's greatest achievement [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1591889 - 05/30/03 02:14 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Then why no record of the construction of the pyramids, when they left many records of all their other great achievements? Surely such a feat as building the Pyramids would elicit some many manuscripts and data from their construction? There is none.

once again we find ourselves refering to thousands of years of history as "them." There were generations and generations of egyptians. Each one would have been different.. think amenhotep.. very different direction. Who says there couldn't have been a group in power in egypt for 50 years who was different from the hundreds of other leaders throughout egyptian history? Maybe this group didn't want to leave records for whatever reason.

There is graffiti out there in egypt by ancient scribes.. they write their name and some dates down on rocks, but there is no graffiti from the post-pyramid egyptians of the pyramids. Don't you think they would draw the pyramids just cause they're fun to draw?

Have you ever seen images describing how to build the world trade center? Well, how many records would you leave of how to build it if you had to take forever carving it out of rock? Not many.. maybe one. Why bother doing it twice? Easy to lose stuff like that over millenia. Also, not having a record of how it was done falls into my paradigm that I started this thread off with. They wanted to leave a crazy puzzle. They didn't want to make people think humans COULD have built the pyramids, that's the whole point. They wanted to leave behind no record of them being built. They wanted to wipe out the memory of them being built so that the pyramids could begin inspiring awe as soon as possible. By 100 years after the pyramids were built I bet people didn't remember them getting made.

So yeah, the whole thing about the pyramids is that there are all these ways to look at it as made by Gods or aliens or super humans or whatever, but that's the exact point of the pyramids.. to fuck with your brain. Humans are capable of so much shit. If you and a few thousand other people dedicated your entire lives to building a crazy pyramid, you'd figure it all out eventually.

Also, Graham Hancock checked out that block inside the pyramid that has khufu's name on it and concluded that it would have been impossible to write that on the block after it was in place, which means that somebody signed a block with the pharoah khufu, or Cheops, before it was placed. This dates the pyramid fairly well. Remember Hancock used to be big on saying that the pyramid was way older and that the writing they dated it by was a hoax

As for it being a burial chamber.. no way. If you spent decades building a tomb then would you forget the final touch (your dead body?)? Not likely..

also the rooms inside have mottled walls so that sound resonates a certain way.. I bet it has cool acoustics.

I can't remember the stories, but there are 2 people we know of who have slept in the great pyramid. Napolean was one of them. I think he was the one who wouldn't say a word about it. The other guy said it was some crazy shit, and I bet it would be. Pretty fucked up place to be sleeping I bet (or trippin).


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