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Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises
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I am interested in reading your thoughts on Hume's argument that an ethical conclusion (what you ought to do) does not logically proceed from factual premises (observations of what is). Does this not cripple ethics?

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: blah]
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Is that a Razor gone awry?

I'd like to hear more; I'm not all too familiar with Hume.

On the rebound, how would this guillotine relate to Nietzschean values (i.e. revaluation, the will to power, etc)?


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: daytripper23]
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Hume got what was coming to him IMO.

The birth of modern liberalism was in his death.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
Conquer's Club

Edited by ScavengerType (08/28/09 11:01 PM)

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: blah]
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blah said:
I am interested in reading your thoughts on Hume's argument that an ethical conclusion (what you ought to do) does not logically proceed from factual premises (observations of what is). Does this not cripple ethics?


What if you make observations of how others act, and use that to make logical conclusions on ethical behaviour?


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I know... that just the smallest
                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: zouden]
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zouden said:
blah said:
I am interested in reading your thoughts on Hume's argument that an ethical conclusion (what you ought to do) does not logically proceed from factual premises (observations of what is). Does this not cripple ethics?


What if you make observations of how others act, and use that to make logical conclusions on ethical behaviour?


then cut those other motherfucker's heads off right?


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
Conquer's Club

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: ScavengerType]
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ScavengerType said:
Hume got what was coming to him IMO.

The birth of modern liberalism was in his death.


?


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: daytripper23]
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They chopped his head off and realized that they should stop being so judgmental of people, trying to reach utopia by killing people based on the findings of ethics inquisitions was clearly a flawed manner. I am postulating that this event caused the french to realize the merits of a society where individuals are granted maximum freedom in maters that do not effect one another.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
Conquer's Club

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: ScavengerType]
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Huh? Hume died of natural causes in Scotland, a decade before the French Revolution. :confused:


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I know... that just the smallest
                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Hume's Guillotine: Moral Judgements from Factual Premises [Re: zouden]
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your right... my bad... totally confused him with another historical figure I remember reading about in school.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
Conquer's Club

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