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InvisibleFreakQlibrium
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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1048611 - 11/13/02 05:27 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Once again, IV seems to push an emotional button in you.
That was very perceptive Alex, and i don't mean to imply sarcasm in that statement.....

I understand that this is totally irrational on my part. i've seen a guy out on 2 week meth binge while his wife was in the hospital giving birth to his offspring who was going to go to bed hungry when they got home because their "father" had to spend all the food money on meth, due to his addiction.....mommy wasn't in any kind of an emotional/mental/spirtual frame of mind to raise the child in a loving nurturing environment cauz cause daddy would beat the crap out of her when he would fly into a rage cauz mommy had spent his drug money on FOOD........see where i'm coming from just a little bit even Alex?

i could fill this entire thread up with several REAL LIFE horror stories that i witnessed firat hand, but you probably wouldn't believe me anyway......i can ASSURE you Alex, any emotive response you detect in me Re IV/IM injection is rooted in my life experience, even if this aspect of my life was terminated circa 72/73.......i always considered the "propaganda" war on drugs to be a farce...in many aspects i still do, BUT when you have seen some of the s....crap go down that i have, THEN you tell me it's harmless :mad:<=======emotive friggen response



But, THAT was all in the past  :grin: :wink: 


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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: GazzBut]
    #1048685 - 11/13/02 06:56 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Swami, Doi you honestly believe that just because something cannot be demonstrated to you it is 100% false?

Never once stated this. My stance is quite simple. If:

A. It cannot be demonstrated
B. Evidence is relegated to storytelling
C. I cannot or have not experienced it myself

then I choose not to believe it until one of those conditions has changed.



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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #1048690 - 11/13/02 07:01 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Change Iv'ing meth to drinking bottles of whisky. The bottle isnt evil and nor is the needle its the mind thafs using it thats the problem.


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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: Swami]
    #1048691 - 11/13/02 07:03 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Similar criterion to the ones I myself would apply.


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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: GazzBut]
    #1048697 - 11/13/02 07:10 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Change Iv'ing meth to drinking bottles of whisky. The bottle isnt evil and nor is the needle its the mind thafs using it thats the problem.

That's a very good point, it's just that in my own life experience, i have never PERSONALLY witnesed the atrocities i have witness re IV users of meth associated with any other substance including alcohol, not to the degree anyway. Someone else's life experience my be exactly the opposite....and yes i realize atrocites is a strong word....the story i related in my post was one of the few i could think of that really had any place on a public message board...most of the others would have been(imo) too grotesque in comparison....


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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #1048968 - 11/13/02 12:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I think we've discussed ourselves to a standstill Freak Q.

Nice talking to you - you're a class act. It got a bit heated at one point but we let the steam out and finished up being civil with one another :laugh: 


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Re: Belief revisited... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1048974 - 11/13/02 12:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Nice talking to you - you're a class act. It got a bit heated at one point but we let the steam out and finished up being civil with one another 

Check......mate  :smile:  :wink: 


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