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Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce?
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Looks to me like aggressive parents only are passing on their aggression to their children. Wouldn't our society be better off if people had to get a psychological evaluation in order to get a permit for having children, and don't all children deserve to have non-aggressive parents?

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Zanthius]
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Hitler much?

:hitler:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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depends on your definition of aggression. I think the world would be a better place if people who raped other people and/or children, and/or committed cold blooded murder were sterilized.

obviously not fit to raise a child, why let them bring more high-potential criminals into the world? fuckem.


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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If you like laws that control people's breeding behaviors (like those in communist China), then you might as well say goodbye to our 'democracy'. :bye:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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i like laws that prevent violent criminals' breeding behaviors...


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Well, where do you draw the line exactly? And once that sort of law is enacted, what's next?


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Zanthius]
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Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce?



No of course not! Disregarding the fact that none of us would be here if our ancestors were not mean, vicious brutes who kicked ass on other large predators; we should not let alpha or even bravo males reproduce, or for that matter, any male with a trace of testosterone and nuts bigger than a raisin.

Only the most timorous, pussilanimous, week-kneed, jelly-spined among us should be allowed to reproduce, but they would be afraid to do so. :shrug:


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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
Well, where do you draw the line exactly? And once that sort of law is enacted, what's next?


:thumbup:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
No of course not! Disregarding the fact that none of us would be here if our ancestors were not mean, vicious brutes who kicked ass on other large predators; we should not let alpha or even bravo males reproduce, or for that matter, any male with a trace of testosterone and nuts bigger than a raisin.


We are not living like monkeys in the jungle anymore, and aggression is not a good and useful trait in our modern society.

OrgoneConclusion said:
Only the most timorous, pussilanimous, week-kneed, jelly-spined among us should be allowed to reproduce, but they would be afraid to do so. :shrug:


Are you arguing that masculinity is actually just primitive brutishness?

Edited by Zanthius (05/21/09 06:56 AM)

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Only the most timorous, pussilanimous, week-kneed, jelly-spined among us should be allowed to reproduce, but they would be afraid to do so. :shrug:


ROFLMAO :thumbup:  If they're too scared to dip the wick, there's always test tubes.


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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
Hitler much?

:hitler:


Actually this is quite different from Hitler's policy of eugenics, since this is selection based on performance (ie, something you can aspire to) rather than genetics (something you can't change).


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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Zanthius]
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Zanthius said:
Looks to me like aggressive parents only are passing on their aggression to their children. Wouldn't our society be better off if people had to get a psychological evaluation in order to get a permit for having children, and don't all children deserve to have non-aggressive parents?


Our species is facing historical times with circumstances we've never had to deal with before.  Aside from the fact that sooooooooooooo many sapian-apes are shitting out a LOT of children and hardly caring for them, our planet will be over run with us and we'll outnumber cockroaches. 

People get their panties in a bunch whenever this type of stuff is brought up, but the truth of the matter is that one day we'll have to take things similar to eugenics seriously, especially if this trend for choosing to be ignorant continues (or maybe they don't choose they just are dumb because there is no natural selection and the impoverished and weak and ignorant fuck like rabbits with no birth control). 

Just look at the figures for world population and imagine where we'll be if we still exist in 200 years. 

IDK about you but I enjoy trees and nature, not skyscrapers and postage stamp lots so I can high-five my neighbor while taking a shit.  Luckily, I'll be long gone by then, and that's the position most people take since it won't happen in their time.

We'll get there though.


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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: zouden]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:
Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce?



No of course not! Disregarding the fact that none of us would be here if our ancestors were not mean, vicious brutes who kicked ass on other large predators; we should not let alpha or even bravo males reproduce, or for that matter, any male with a trace of testosterone and nuts bigger than a raisin.

Only the most timorous, pussilanimous, week-kneed, jelly-spined among us should be allowed to reproduce, but they would be afraid to do so. :shrug:


:rofl2:

Where would we be without Orgone? :justdontknow:



Zanthius said:
OrgoneConclusion said:
No of course not! Disregarding the fact that none of us would be here if our ancestors were not mean, vicious brutes who kicked ass on other large predators; we should not let alpha or even bravo males reproduce, or for that matter, any male with a trace of testosterone and nuts bigger than a raisin.


We are not living like monkeys in the jungle anymore, and aggression is not a good and useful trait in our modern society.

OrgoneConclusion said:
Only the most timorous, pussilanimous, week-kneed, jelly-spined among us should be allowed to reproduce, but they would be afraid to do so. :shrug:


Are you arguing that masculinity is actually just primitive brutishness?


Yeah, society is more like a zoo, not a jungle...:tarzan:

As opposed to primitive brutishness, what would you assert that masculinity is?



zouden said:
Poid said:
Hitler much?

:hitler:


Actually this is quite different from Hitler's policy of eugenics, since this is selection based on performance (ie, something you can aspire to) rather than genetics (something you can't change).


Oh, well I was actually just referring to his totalitarian government in general, not any of its specific practices. :tongue:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
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5HTSynaptrip said:
Zanthius said:
Looks to me like aggressive parents only are passing on their aggression to their children. Wouldn't our society be better off if people had to get a psychological evaluation in order to get a permit for having children, and don't all children deserve to have non-aggressive parents?


Our species is facing historical times with circumstances we've never had to deal with before.  Aside from the fact that sooooooooooooo many sapian-apes are shitting out a LOT of children and hardly caring for them, our planet will be over run with us and we'll outnumber cockroaches. 

People get their panties in a bunch whenever this type of stuff is brought up, but the truth of the matter is that one day we'll have to take things similar to eugenics seriously, especially if this trend for choosing to be ignorant continues (or maybe they don't choose they just are dumb because there is no natural selection and the impoverished and weak and ignorant fuck like rabbits with no birth control). 

Just look at the figures for world population and imagine where we'll be if we still exist in 200 years. 

IDK about you but I enjoy trees and nature, not skyscrapers and postage stamp lots so I can high-five my neighbor while taking a shit.  Luckily, I'll be long gone by then, and that's the position most people take since it won't happen in their time.

We'll get there though.


Our fate seems to be inevitable, and a law prohibiting "aggressive individuals" from procreating is not going to stop this snowball...:snowman:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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Assuming that aggression serves no purpose is naive.
There are as many ways to express aggression as there are to live. Are you only referring to those who express their aggression physically? If so, I think you're talking more about intelligence and socioeconomic status than anything.

So no, I don't think any test should be administered. It's just another form of oppression. Another way to say "You're not good enough!"


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Zanthius]
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Good luck enforcing such a law, and good luck defending the human race against an alien invasion once we've bred out all those aggressive genes.


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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: deCypher]
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If aliens are like the ones in Halo, not even an army tough guys would stand a chance. :nonono:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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Aggressivity might appear threatening to passive individuals; but it produces movement in society.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Kukaracha]
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Obviously too much aggression is detrimental to society, but you're right, aggression/assertiveness is what makes things happen.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Should aggressive individuals be allowed to reproduce? [Re: Poid]
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As soon as you go down this route it will never end. We will end up in a world much like Huxley's "Brave New World". Lets get rid of aggression. Lets get rid of obesity. Hell lets get rid of red hair as well.

All though the logical side of me sees its merits, the humane side of me sees its evils.

As far as aggression, its needed. Unless you can take this to a world government level.


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