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one mushroom monotub?
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i been doing mono tubs about six months now with great results minus some contams and everything been going good till this one problem tank.its uncased grain spawned onto coir and coffee gypsum mix other similar tanks have fruited in fourteen to 25 days,this ones about a month and week old and looks healthy as anything is supposed to not overlayed,but is well colonized and has only one large mushy that took about a week to mature.one and only one.this is first time i have encountered this.granted,its a nice one,but its one and only one.average flushes of other similar tubs have been generally 3-5 o dry
any suggestions?

Edited by Electric305 (05/20/09 06:31 AM)

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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Electric305]
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Could be contaminated and just not visible yet. I had a tub behave similarly and when I went to take the 'cake' out of the tub to examine it it just fell apart and was full of green nastiness.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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A few things could be going on.  First of all is the luck of the draw with multispore inoculation.  Second is that some strains simply don't do well without a lot of fresh air, which you don't get with polyfill stuffed into the only source of air.  By strains, I mean the pairing of like hyphae, not the name on the syringe.  Another possibility is with warmer weather, your humidity or moisture content of the substrate could be off.
RR


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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might be moisture,i dont use polyfill i use tyvek patches i cut and hot glue them to the holes i cut in the tub usually 16 holes 2'' diameter..the air exchange is pretty good cause i keep a large fan blowing onto the tyvek patches.
to follow up,its fruiting beautifully now,over 30 large large mushrooms largest one is over 16 in tall and looks like 4 and half in cap,averag [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-22/349229232-BIg_one.jpg][image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/09-22/349229232-thumb_BIg_one.jpg is 3 in.ill post a pick soon:-) thanks for the help

Edited by Electric305 (05/28/09 12:44 AM)

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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Electric305]
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I can tell you with a pretty high certainty that tyvek is terrible for FAE.

Poor fae will result in tall/long mushrooms.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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Whilst on topic of monotubs, could anyone point me toward a good tek? Thanks!


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Tds]
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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Tds]
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Tds said:
Whilst on topic of monotubs, could anyone point me toward a good tek? Thanks!



Here's the best design I've come up with as of yet.





It requires a bit more maintenance then your traditional tubs, but the results are astounding.

I just harvested approximately 4 oz of PE out of one this morning.  May not sound like much, but that's roughly the equivalent of 14 oz of other strains which oddly enough, is about what you get out of other strains in the same tubs, over 3 or 4 flushes.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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what did you use on the sides for filters? for air exchange


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: chaseonbase]
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You do not need filtered air exchange for the fruiting phase - just fresh air exchange and lots of it.

I had seen RR post this a few times in various wordings, so I used it as inspiration for my tubs.

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Pull it out.  In the fruiting stage, the polyfill serves no purpose.  You don't want filtered air during fruiting, you want massive FRESH air, which can't pass through polyfill.  Fresh air is the number 1 pinning trigger, and it's also the number one defense against molds which only thrive in stale, still air.
RR




During colonization/incubating I just duct tape the holes closed from the inside although I leave slight hairline openings on some of the holes to provide minimal gas exchange.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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Spongiform said:
Tds said:
Whilst on topic of monotubs, could anyone point me toward a good tek? Thanks!



Here's the best design I've come up with as of yet.





It requires a bit more maintenance then your traditional tubs, but the results are astounding.

I just harvested approximately 4 oz of PE out of one this morning.  May not sound like much, but that's roughly the equivalent of 14 oz of other strains which oddly enough, is about what you get out of other strains in the same tubs, over 3 or 4 flushes.



How is 4 oz of pe equeal to 14 oz of any other cub?


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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How is 4 oz of pe equeal to 14 oz of any other cub?




I have absolutely no idea why or how PE is what it is.

I've read dozens of testimonials on these forums about it, and I was skeptical till I grew it and tried it myself.  But one gram is plenty for a solid trip. I've had friends eat half a gram and had a great time.

My first test batch was 1 oz dry mixed into a big chocolate bar with 25 individual pieces.

Ends up being about 1.1 gram per piece.



I invited a bunch of my friends over, and we each ate 1 piece.  I had a good collection of experienced trippers, some with minor experience, and some who had never tripped (or even been high).

Everybody was tripping pretty hard.  One guy hid in the corner under some blankets for a couple hours, and would only grunt if you tried to talk to him.  After awhile he had uncontrollable rolling on the floor laughter for a good hour or so then spent 3 hours talking to my cat about everything that was wrong with the world.

Only one person wasn't affected all that much, he reported a 'mild' but enjoyable trip.  Bear in mind he had eaten somewhere between 7-10 grams of chitwans the week before so he still had quite a tolerance built up.

I waited till his tolerance went down, then we both ate 2 grams dry and were completely mind fucked for a couple hours.

Here's a thread discussing how potent PE is:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9582063/page/1

One friend of mine ate 7 grams of my pe since that's what he normally eats and didn't believe me when I told him to eat half as much as normal, at the most.  It took him about 3 days to get back to normal.

There's one quote in particular out of that thread that spiked my interested. 

Quote:
I've said for years that cubes are cubes, with the exception of PE, which seems to be the only truly different 'strain'.
RR





And finally, here's a rather interesting and very very weird/crazy article about the history of PE.

This post seems to match up with that story too.

All in all, pe has a really interesting and rich history, and completely knocks my socks off :-D

Personally, other then for testing purposes I don't have any desire to eat any other strain except PE again.  I had such massive, sometimes overwhelming visuals but without the customary mental confusion.  Sure, there's some, but not nearly as much.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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Wow, I like pe too, but they are not any more potent than "Kramer's Cash Cropper", that is my favorite strain.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: george castanza]
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george castanza said:
Wow, I like pe too, but they are not any more potent than "Kramer's Cash Cropper", that is my favorite strain.



I'm not familiar with that strain, got some pics/info? ;-D


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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is this setup your using for a monotub? so basically I want to use filters until all the mycelium is grown. then I want to plug it? to make it pin? im confused


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: chaseonbase]
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I really should write up a pictorial guide next time I build one :-D

I drill 6 2" circular holes around the tub, centered at 6.5 inches off the bottom (so the bottom of the hole is at about 5.5 inches)

Then I tape up the holes with duct tape.  It's ok to leave small hair-thin slits open for gas exchange.

I heat up my bulk sub to 165f or so in a pot, then dump it into the monotub and let it cool there.    The next day I mix in my grain spawn.

Then I wait till it's fully colonized, then wait 3 more days.  (generally this takes 7+3=10 days).

At this point you can take out the tape and pop in the vents, case lightly, turn a fan on for air flow and begin misting regularly.


I'm experimenting with different fruiting methods still.  One idea that worked on the first try (I want to repeat it before swearing by it first) is to start fanning 2-3x a day on day 10 until knots appear, THEN case lightly and put the vents in. 

It worked great the first try, so I'm going to try it again on my next batch and confirm that it works.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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Spongiform said:
I really should write up a pictorial guide next time I build one :-D

I drill 6 2" circular holes around the tub, centered at 6.5 inches off the bottom (so the bottom of the hole is at about 5.5 inches)

Then I tape up the holes with duct tape.  It's ok to leave small hair-thin slits open for gas exchange.

I heat up my bulk sub to 165f or so in a pot, then dump it into the monotub and let it cool there.    The next day I mix in my grain spawn.

Then I wait till it's fully colonized, then wait 3 more days.  (generally this takes 7+3=10 days).

At this point you can take out the tape and pop in the vents, case lightly, turn a fan on for air flow and begin misting regularly.


I'm experimenting with different fruiting methods still.  One idea that worked on the first try (I want to repeat it before swearing by it first) is to start fanning 2-3x a day on day 10 until knots appear, THEN case lightly and put the vents in. 

It worked great the first try, so I'm going to try it again on my next batch and confirm that it works.



i will defiantly try this out, thanks for the info Spong.

Edited by makohaze (05/26/09 12:28 PM)

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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Spongiform]
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Spongiform said:
I really should write up a pictorial guide next time I build one :-D

I drill 6 2" circular holes around the tub, centered at 6.5 inches off the bottom (so the bottom of the hole is at about 5.5 inches)

Then I tape up the holes with duct tape.  It's ok to leave small hair-thin slits open for gas exchange.

I heat up my bulk sub to 165f or so in a pot, then dump it into the monotub and let it cool there.    The next day I mix in my grain spawn.

Then I wait till it's fully colonized, then wait 3 more days.  (generally this takes 7+3=10 days).

At this point you can take out the tape and pop in the vents, case lightly, turn a fan on for air flow and begin misting regularly.


I'm experimenting with different fruiting methods still.  One idea that worked on the first try (I want to repeat it before swearing by it first) is to start fanning 2-3x a day on day 10 until knots appear, THEN case lightly and put the vents in. 

It worked great the first try, so I'm going to try it again on my next batch and confirm that it works.




Ya man most def. Ive done plenty of BRF cakes and Im ready to move on to something new and try it out. I got a spore syringe of some indian maldori and heard it grows great on poo. So I want to try that out. Im just tryin all I can on my research so I can get it right. Ive been reading on this; im sure everyone is familiar with: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7893964#7893964 ;   I just know I want to try something out.


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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: chaseonbase]
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mine usually take twenty days to fully cloinize.heres the first big and second flush from the one mush tub...one is size o my arm,and i 6'3'...heres the pics from the one mush tub i was having probs with' ...pics in order are first flush,first flush 2nd half,2nd flush(first half),a large one from 2nd flush (2nd half) and another big one from same 2nd flush.i forgot to take a pic of the 2nd harvest from 2nd flush.i pick selectivly at the peak o ripeness in my eyes

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Re: one mushroom monotub? [Re: Electric305]
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Electric305 said:
mine usually take twenty days to fully cloinize.heres the first big and second flush from the one mush tub...one is size o my arm,and i 6'3'...heres the pics from the one mush tub i was having probs with' ...pics in order are first flush,first flush 2nd half,2nd flush(first half),a large one from 2nd flush (2nd half) and another big one from same 2nd flush.i forgot to take a pic of the 2nd harvest from 2nd flush.i pick selectivly at the peak o ripeness in my eyes





what strain are you using?


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