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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
If the first 300 debunkings were not enough, I doubt one more time will have any effect.



What precisely has been debunked?


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Re: The Real 2012? *DELETED* [Re: Grapefruit]
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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Silversoul]
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What precisely has been debunked?



What precisely was presented?


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
The most likely apocalyptic event to happen in the near future would be the Technological Singularity, but 2012 is cutting it a little close.



Yeah I read that. Bird flu hasn't gone away either though just out of the media and the real danger is one or two mutations after bird flu  which could actually kill off about 1/4 of the population.


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Were not talking about 2012 as the new age of enlightenment, were talking crash and burn here. Much more likely imo.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Were not talking about 2012 as the new age of enlightenment, were talking crash and burn here. Much more likely imo.:satansmoking:



Crash and burn might help things along though, people need to be cornered by their fears such that the only way out is acceptance IMO.


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"Chat your fraff
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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Lakefingers]
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Lakefingers said:
Grapefruit said:
Lakefingers said:
These threads fascinate me. Even skeptically inclined Americans just can't shake the possibility of... because there are so many people around them that believe it.

In Western Europe people are bored out of their minds if you talk 2012, atheism, etc.

If something is widely believed in it always becomes easier for us to lapse into that same belief.



I'm British and there is good science supporting global collapse very soon IMHO. It's not just random guesswork and 2012 websites.




You're a different breed anyhow.



99% of british people will tell you 2012 is bullshit.


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Re: The Real 2012? *DELETED* [Re: Grapefruit]
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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Were not talking about 2012 as the new age of enlightenment, were talking crash and burn here. Much more likely imo.:satansmoking:



What we are talking about is everybody putting a different spin on it.


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Icelander said:
Were not talking about 2012 as the new age of enlightenment, were talking crash and burn here. Much more likely imo.:satansmoking:



What we are talking about is everybody putting a different spin on it.



And how exactly can you debunk that?


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Silversoul]
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A non-specific claim is self-debunking.


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Were not talking about 2012 as the new age of enlightenment, were talking crash and burn here. Much more likely imo.:satansmoking:



What is going to happen in 2012?  I don't know.  The future comes soon enough.
What do I think is going to happen in 2012?  Apocalypse.  Revealing.
What will be revealed?  Truth will become self-evident.
How will this happen?  Either a "crash and burn" catastrophe of biblical proportions, or unconditional love.

A catastrophe would really show us the truth, and is more probable IMO.
However, unconditional love and awakening of the masses by using this impending catastrophe as a motivator could prevent such a thing.
Truth = Unity.  Truth is the only way.
Although truth would be revealed through catastrophe, there would be no (or a very small) human race to unify.
I like to stay optimistic, in hopes that my unconditional love and compassion, and the contagiousness of these behaviors, will prevent such a thing.
Maybe we can rise above the animal level and see past the illusions of the mind.
Maybe this is our chance to get out of this cycle of destruction.
We have been destroying each other for 10,000 years; we could just end it and start over in the dark ages, or wake up.
If we wake up, I think we are in for at least 10,000 years of peace and love.  I mean, Nature always balances.
I think 2012 is a pretty good estimate for when the "apocalypse" will come.
Call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Thus,
http://www.thetruthcontest.com


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
A non-specific claim is self-debunking.



Actually, it's not even capable of being debunked.  You seem to have a lot of confusion between disproof and lack of proof.


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Jethro Tull]
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I believe that nothing this interesting is going to happen to any of us at any point in any of our lives, so we need to get over wondering about a bunch of rumors and b.s. and start acknowledging the ridiculous and dangerous reality that is right in front of our eyes.


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: sterbeklang]
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sterbeklang said:
I believe that nothing this interesting is going to happen to any of us at any point in any of our lives, so we need to get over wondering about a bunch of rumors and b.s. and start acknowledging the ridiculous and dangerous reality that is right in front of our eyes.



Aye.  The future doesn't exist.  The present is all that is.

"However, unconditional love and awakening of the masses by using this impending catastrophe as a motivator could prevent such a thing."

All we need is a fucking massive dose of truth.
No simple task...


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Jethro Tull]
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Jethro Tull said:
sterbeklang said:
I believe that nothing this interesting is going to happen to any of us at any point in any of our lives, so we need to get over wondering about a bunch of rumors and b.s. and start acknowledging the ridiculous and dangerous reality that is right in front of our eyes.



Aye.  The future doesn't exist.  The present is all that is.

"However, unconditional love and awakening of the masses by using this impending catastrophe as a motivator could prevent such a thing."

All we need is a fucking massive dose of truth.
No simple task...



Yep.  It's a real conundrum.  :shrug:


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Grapefruit said:
Icelander said:
Were not talking about 2012 as the new age of enlightenment, were talking crash and burn here. Much more likely imo.:satansmoking:



Crash and burn might help things along though, people need to be cornered by their fears such that the only way out is acceptance IMO.




Sooner or later.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Lakefingers]
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What if is fine if it's what if,
but what if with undertone of paranoia is bum shit.


Did you really say this? :confused: wtf does it mean?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Icelander]
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Another interesting thing that just came up in conversation with a freind...

You know how people have supossedly had visions of 2012 and everyone running around tripping out and having a big DMT flash?

Well this freind of mines parents went on a bike ride type thing in somewhere where the northern lights happen and they tripped out alot. For instance they saw dead people under the ice and also they we're riding along when the bike dissapeared from underneath them and they both started going through a white light tunnel, they would see hands coming out of the sky aswell. Sounds pretty cool.

Anyway whenever this happened it would be when the aurora borealis showed up. There are also higher rates of psychosis when solar flares happen. Now if that thing predicted in the article (don't know if you bothered to read it) happened everyone would see a very intense aurora, there would be loads of solar flares firing. So everyone may actually start simultaneously tripping out. Pretty cool, huh? :tongue:

Now that I'd love to see.


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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Grapefruit]
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People like to say all sorts of things. How do you know this is true.

It's odd with all the trippy shit that happens to people no one can ever show you, just tell you.:confused:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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