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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Anyway whenever this happened it would be when the aurora borealis showed up. There are also higher rates of psychosis when solar flares happen. Now if that thing predicted in the article (don't know if you bothered to read it) happened everyone would see a very intense aurora, there would be loads of solar flares firing. So everyone may actually start simultaneously tripping out. Pretty cool, huh?



Psychosis?
The same way you claim that with such certainty , i could claim that solar flares increase psychic activity.
You "debunkers" got your stuff mixed up just like some of the prophets do. You look for proof in science.. and then when some really intelligent and highly qualified scientist come out with very interesting experiments that the governments never support.. then its new age bullshit.
There actually is a science behind this.. Dont forget that.
It is a fact.. that all the planets in the solar system are experiencing climate change. Not just earth. Write off global warming due to pollution or what have you.
The suns activity is changing.
We are loosing ice. FACT.
The galactic center does emit some sort of energy , and we will be aligned with it on this date.  FACT.
The aurora borealis phenomena someone spoke of.. has been known to sometimes creates a certain amount of static electricity wiping out electrical energy in counties , cities and even states. All due to the sun. FACT.
Humans.. are experiencing changes on a genetic level. FACT.
Look at the "indigo,crystal children".. Not the prophecies and pretty stories.. These kids have different DNA than the average little johnny on the block.
WE have entire species of animals and insects literally  disappearing into thin air. FACT
Evolution.. is telescoping. FACT !! We have made more intellectual and technological progress in the last 100 years.. than in the past thousands !
If you care to look.. you wil most definitely agree with me. And even if you dont.. it would be like telling me 2 + 2 aint 4. without some sort of crazy theory to convince me.

Whole lot more of the stuff that doesnt , and is forbidden to become mainstream..
Ill leave that out..

And then.. if you're  inclined to muse yourself with prophecies and teachings of the ancient civilizations..
Its not just the Mayans. Almost every single religion  is pointing to this event.
And who even cares if it falls exactly on that date. It makes no difference in what is said to be the end of  a 26,000 year cycle..

I agree.. we all have the right to an opinion. And that should never change. But all i see is a bunch of people that rely on FACTS.. and yet they only consider or even look into what seems interesting or sounds relevant to their own ideas.
What im saying is.. if your gonna discuss this stuff.. Simply saying i think its just another day , makes the discussion idiotic.
Well.. i dont think its another day.
So we should just agree we disagree and carry on ??
Im not saying that this will not eventually happen anyway..
But lets make it interesting in the meantime , and if you're gonna claim something.. make sure you have  reasonable arguments behind it.
Cause using psychology is about the worst kind of tool you can..
I dont look for evidence , or try to prove one thing or another..
But if you will.. please get it straight..
You cant be advocating factual evidence , and then turn to a science that has existed 200 years..
And primarily refer to Freuds work which was , say a 100 years ago and was based mostly if not entirely on pure observation and introspection.
Now.. i know many of you will immediately point out what seems to be the obvious contradiction and remind me of "evolution telescoping" statement..
But.. this science.. plays a far larger role in humanities development than it should IMO .. and when it comes to putting labels on Behavior , thought , emotion..
You really have to be on the fucking dot with your science.
If you're not..
You get a whole bunch of pill eating zombies that watch tv all day , and eat ice-cream cause they cant cry. They dont feel anymore..
Not to mention the criteria for classifying someone as mentally unstable to the level of institutionalization.
Freedom is literally jeopardized and conditioned to  a very large extent by this uncertain "science" you all so readily except as FACT.. when IT IS NOT.


When it comes to stating my personal opinion..
This video would be a good start.

&ei=NhXMSberKIHo-AGI8u0Z&q=2012+enigma+david+wilcock

Oh yeah..
Btw.. i wanted to say that my entire post is not directed to you personally Grapefruit.
Im just talking in general and used your post for a little example.

:peace:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

Edited by jivJaN (03/26/09 07:28 PM)

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Was reading in new scientist someone did an experiment showing when the solar flares were high there were higher rates of depression, psychosis, mental disorder etc.

Didn't think I was debunking anyway? I don't present this stuff as fact I'm just talking possibilities.


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: jivJaN]
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:andyistic:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
:andyistic:




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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: jivJaN]
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That's a really long video, jivJan...:(


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Not really ,really long.
Besides.. its talking about the possibly biggest and most significant event humanity has ever experienced..
Were you expecting to understand that in 5 minutes ?
Im not saying you would understand in 120 or 300.. but it gets a bit closer and shows how serious someone is about conveying this to the people.

I think its definitely worth it.


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
:andyistic:



Seriously ? :yawn:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: jivJaN]
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:sadyes:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: jivJaN]
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jivJaN said:
Not really ,really long.
Besides.. its talking about the possibly biggest and most significant event humanity has ever experienced..
Were you expecting to understand that in 5 minutes ?
Im not saying you would understand in 120 or 300.. but it gets a bit closer and shows how serious someone is about conveying this to the people.

I think its definitely worth it.



You should've at least warned us to prepare for a movie...:popcorn:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Grapefruit said:
Was reading in new scientist someone did an experiment showing when the solar flares were high there were higher rates of depression, psychosis, mental disorder etc.

Didn't think I was debunking anyway? I don't present this stuff as fact I'm just talking possibilities.



Yeah.. Dont get me wrong..
I wasnt directing it at you personally ..
Other posters with the desire to Prove or Disprove anything concerning this topic , and the conventional science which seems to be very contradictory and selective in gathering and classifying scientific data.
The scientists say that the solar flares increase the rate of depression , psychosis  and mental disorder.
And although you can observe.. and state as a fact that a certain change in behavior and the thought process is happening..
Labeling it as psychosis or mental disorder through the means of Psychological Analysis does not do it justice IMO.. and in no way can be considered as evidence , and yet it is classified and treated like fact. Or.. pretty damn close to it.


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Its one click away ! ?
And..I think you did that instead of me :smile:

Enjoy your popcorn.

:rofl:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: jivJaN]
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Did what? :confused:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Warned everyone of the videos duration.

Btw..
The spelling errors were corrected.
English is my second language.
I apologize for the mistake , and whatever misunderstanding it might have caused.
I Hope you're pleased.


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: jivJaN]
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Thank you! :tongue:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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:nonono:

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: deranger]
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:dudewtf:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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:calledajoke:

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Mastamike1118]
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:sorry:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Re: The Real 2012? [Re: Poid]
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Sorry, just gotta poke fun...

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