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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: Rocker232]
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How does LSD make it to the child if there is no shared nervous system?


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: niteowl]
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Does it matter how?  The fact is your body and the babies body are one until birth everything you consume is the child's also.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
How does LSD make it to the child if there is no shared nervous system?


I will not claim to understand the process of how LSD works in the body, I will have to look it up though. One would assume though that with mushrooms which must be digested in the stomach (much moreso than simpler chemicals) some would reach the child. I don't see how the body differentiates between 3g of cubes and 3g of shitake mushrooms. If there is indeed a different please do explain as I would be interested.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: skelli95]
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I would not advise it. But it sounds like you're looking for a reason for it to be okay, so I guess we'll just assume you're going to do it anyway.

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: skelli95]
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try some pregnancy exercises,a nutritous diet and reading for the sake of your future kid

dont marinate your baby in your drug choices,you can starve it of milk when its born if it helps to ease post natal depression

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: UnholyChild666]
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I'm not saying that it is the smartest thing to do.

I just don't see how consuming a chemical that affects only the nervous system could possibly hurt a fetus.

Thats like saying that if you broke your arm while pregnant you fetus would feel the pain.

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I don't see how the body differentiates between 3g of cubes and 3g of shitake mushrooms. If there is indeed a different please do explain as I would be interested.


There are no psychoactive chemicals in edible shrooms.

Shrooms don't show up in any drug tests because they don't affect the body like other drugs do.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
I'm not saying that it is the smartest thing to do.

I just don't see how consuming a chemical that affects only the nervous system could possibly hurt a fetus.

Thats like saying that if you broke your arm while pregnant you fetus would feel the pain.

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I don't see how the body differentiates between 3g of cubes and 3g of shitake mushrooms. If there is indeed a different please do explain as I would be interested.


There are no psychoactive chemicals in edible shrooms.

Shrooms don't show up in any drug tests because they don't affect the body like other drugs do.


That was my point (and question) though. Does the body see a difference in cubes and edible mushrooms? My basic understanding is if you smoke, your child smokes. If you drink, your child drinks and so on.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: niteowl]
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i have no idea if those kind of drugs get thru at all but we do have crack and smack babies born with addictions that have to be weened of drugs at birth

newborns are weened off heroin at birth with methadone

i was more thinking about if she dry heaves or vomits or has a bad trip she could well hurt the baby somehow and have a misscarriage from being sick or something

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: Rocker232]
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Rocker232 said:
niteowl said:
I'm not saying that it is the smartest thing to do.

I just don't see how consuming a chemical that affects only the nervous system could possibly hurt a fetus.

Thats like saying that if you broke your arm while pregnant you fetus would feel the pain.

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I don't see how the body differentiates between 3g of cubes and 3g of shitake mushrooms. If there is indeed a different please do explain as I would be interested.


There are no psychoactive chemicals in edible shrooms.

Shrooms don't show up in any drug tests because they don't affect the body like other drugs do.


That was my point (and question) though. Does the body see a difference in cubes and edible mushrooms? My basic understanding is if you smoke, your child smokes. If you drink, your child drinks and so on.


ive actually read that eating too many edible shrooms makes your immune system work overtime because after all its a fungi and your body has to rid itself of it but the goodness of shrooms outweighs that apparently,still they can cause you to feel runfown if eating to many is my take on shrooms

somewhere i read it...

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: niteowl]
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How do you think shrooms get to your nervous system?  They are carried through the blood, once ingested all drug (for the most part) are circulated throughout the body.

A mother and fetus share their circulatory supply.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Edited by badchad (03/14/09 01:42 PM)

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: badchad]
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The placenta forms a barrier between the mother's and the fetus's blood.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Omegachrist said:
(psilocybin is a toxin, none the less)


:whatever:

I thought that shrooms affected your nervous system, not your blood system.
If so then shrooms wouldn't harm the child.
Since they don't share a nervous system, only a blood system.



the active alkaloids are transported via the bloodstream


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: GoaM]
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GoaM said:
The placenta forms a barrier between the mother's and the fetus's blood.



if that were the case then we would have no children adicted to
crack, aids wouldnt be passed to newborns by their mothers


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: skelli95]
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maybe you should do yourself and society a favor get an abortion instead

Edited by BenRichards (03/14/09 03:05 PM)

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: BenRichards]
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I certainly don't know for sure whether it's safe, but a friend of mine was pregnant and did do shrooms quite a few times during her pregnancy, although she stopped all other drugs.

Her baby is completely perfect and healthy. :shrug:


I would say definitely check with a Doctor first though, just to be safe.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
GoaM said:
The placenta forms a barrier between the mother's and the fetus's blood.



if that were the case then we would have no children adicted to
crack, aids wouldnt be passed to newborns by their mothers


That is the case. But nutrients etc are also transferred from the mothers blood to the fetus's via the placenta. A bit knit picky I guess.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: alternatereality]
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alternatereality said:
I certainly don't know for sure whether it's safe, but a friend of mine was pregnant and did do shrooms quite a few times during her pregnancy, although she stopped all other drugs.

Her baby is completely perfect and healthy. :shrug:


I would say definitely check with a Doctor first though, just to be safe.


Lets see how that kid is after around 25 when the brain is fully developed. Besides any risk that the baby might "trip", this shows what kind of mother this will be. Why the fuck would you even wanna risk it? I think pregnant women should have to have random drugtests, and if they fail, they lose the child at birth. Even marijuana and cigarettes. If you cant take 9 months out of your selfish life to incubate a human being, you deserve to lose the kid, and go to jail the rest of your natural life/ OR have your reproductive organs removed immediately after birth.
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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: GoaM]
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And a lot of drugs cross the placenta with relative ease as well.

While I don't have an annotated list, I would be that most drugs with the ability to cross the blood brain barrier (e.g. psychoactive drugs), would also cross the placenta.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: badchad]
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Honestly I don't even see why we are debating this. If I knew a girl who was pregnant asking this question I would rip her a new one. Why would you risk the life of a child on something that can wait? That is stupidity and selfishness at its finest.


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Re: Shroom Use During Pregnancy [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
And a lot of drugs cross the placenta with relative ease as well.

While I don't have an annotated list, I would be that most drugs with the ability to cross the blood brain barrier (e.g. psychoactive drugs), would also cross the placenta.


Agreed. New born infants go through heroin withdrawl if the mother is a junkie. I've wondered if benzo's do the same thing. I'd assume psylocibin would cross easily.


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