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OfflinePeanuthead
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innoculating casings
    #962976 - 10/15/02 02:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

hihi,
I was wondering if anyone here has ever skipped the pk tek jars, and just innoculated their casings and had success?
if not do you guys think it'd be possible? and would using more spore juice (i'm using spore syringes) help my chances of it working?

thanks for any input


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #962986 - 10/15/02 02:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

casings should have little or no nutritive value so the mycellium should have nothing to eat and therefore shouldn't grow or at least should grow so slowly that contams will beat it. or so i'd guess.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #962987 - 10/15/02 02:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Cakes or bulk subs , gotta make a choice . The mycelium needs a food source , so...... "NO"...... spores in just casing material probablly will not do much .
Got to the FAQS read all you can , make a choice , follow directions of choice , master method , then experiment .
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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #962989 - 10/15/02 02:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You'll grow green instead of shrooms. The mycelium needs a somewhat sterile environment to colonise (in cultivation, the jars; in nature, the inside of the cow turd, which is why in nature there are many more turds without shrooms, than turds with, cause its less sterile than the inside of a jar that has been pressure cooked. ) If you did this to maybe 100 casings, you may have a couple succeed. Just do the damn jars.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Skikid16]
    #963056 - 10/15/02 03:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

sorry, lemme try to re-explain it

go fuck your- no, i'm kidding =)

what i meant was, if i had a bottom sterilized layer of vermiculite, then a layer of sterilized brown rice flour/vermiculite, and THEN innoculated it, and if it worked i'd then add the casing mix.

sorry, i should've explained it better, my apologies


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #963070 - 10/15/02 03:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You'd still need to have them in the jars, this allows the environment to stay somewhat clean, clean enough for the mycelium to colonise the substrate before some unwanted contam does.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #963076 - 10/15/02 03:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you will sterilize the substrate (brown rice/verm) in a container. once it leaves the container it will no longer be sterile = contamination. by the time (if) mycellium even starts to show you will have a pile of green crap. the idea is to sterilize, keep it sterile and allow mycellium to grow with no other organisms in competition. to keep the substrate sterile you must leave it in a sterile container = a jar. if THAT works, case it.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #963080 - 10/15/02 03:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

First off .....that fuck yourself attitude will get you nowhere !
Make a choice BULK SUBS OR CAKES READ READ READ READ !
But yes many people case "old" cakes , but they use it to innoculate a bulk substrate . They also use them to start outdoor patches , look up MOES OUTDOOR TEK .
Try this
Sterilize some grain innoculate with culture grown on agar let fully colonize .
Then sterilize some sort of bulk substrate (worm castings , horse crap ,........) , then innoculate it with jars of grain , wait to fully colonized , then case with 50/50 mix .
I left out many details .........so READ READ READ READ READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #963091 - 10/15/02 03:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yeah, Read a little more.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: tripndicular]
    #963121 - 10/15/02 03:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

damn negro, i was only kidding about the go fuck yourself thing

but if ya wanna take it seriously i wont stop ya  :grin:

the reason I wanted to just go to the casings is just cause it's simpler, and i'm more simple minded, hehe.  and the last time i used pf tek when i was using the pressure cooker i had a jar like explode on me once or twice, heehee. 


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #963141 - 10/15/02 03:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I'm an albino , and if I took it too seriously I would not have offered more info , just letting you know , a lot of people will not take it light heartedly , and it could get you ejected from the forum . But on the funny side ............IF CLONING WAS LEGAL I would so i could fuck myself !!!!!!!! lol lol Have to stick to cloning mushies for now .
Good Luck .
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Re: innoculating casings [Re: tripndicular]
    #963151 - 10/15/02 03:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you can tell me to go fuck yourself all you want i like it  :grin:


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: tripndicular]
    #963411 - 10/15/02 05:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You would fuck yourself?


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #963902 - 10/15/02 08:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I had a similar question.
What about doing a bulk substrate and using a combniation of Hydrogen Peroxide and microwaving to 'sterilize' the PFjars?
Mix up your substrate, spray with H2O2 solution, put tray and lid in microwave and run it on high for 10minutes. Innocluate the medium, and case the resulting mycellia.
Or PF jars with microwaveable lids. Either spray filled jars with H2O2, or incorporate itin the jar mixture. Add coffee filters/filter disks and microwave.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Skikid16]
    #963984 - 10/15/02 09:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

But I bet you would watch huh skikid ?
Whats up dude , have convoed with you in awhile .


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: tripndicular]
    #964770 - 10/16/02 01:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It would be quite the sight to see. Right on, by the way, I may be stupid but whats convoed?


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Skikid16]
    #964933 - 10/16/02 02:45 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Tripindicular?? you seem confused.
Your only optons are deffinatelly not cakes or bulk substrates.
Your opions are, brf/verm cakes, grain subtrates for casings.
or dung/ straw substrates.


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Re: inoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #964978 - 10/16/02 03:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

There is something similar what you describe, I tried it several times though and failed.
Here:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_cultivation8.shtml


Edited by Anno (10/16/02 03:08 AM)


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: tripndicular]
    #965003 - 10/16/02 03:24 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

IF CLONING WAS LEGAL I would so i could fuck myself !!!!!!!!




Or if you had a longer, somewhat deformed penis that could be bent backwards while erect.


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Re: innoculating casings [Re: Peanuthead]
    #965085 - 10/16/02 04:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I once tried something like what you're asking.. Back in the day when I was trying to use my creativity to revelutionize cultivating so I wouldn't need to expend the effort needed to make some cakes.. So anyhow, I took a tupperwear container with lid, put some BRF and vermiculite in it, with some water of course.. Sterlized it for a good hour (on and off) in the microwave and innoculated using an entire spore syringe.  Well...

End result I culitvated green goodness, and wasted a spore syringe.  Stick to the jars.  Once you get one batch done you can make it last a long time.  No worries.  Patience my man :smile: 


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