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weight loss
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I can't FUCKING put on weight. I work out, i do weight gain shakes, protein shakes, you name it and I've fucking tried it. And yes, I smoke weed, this isn't increasing my appetite either. So.. no appetite, no weight gain even if I cram 6 meals a day down my throat. I've even gone to the doc, no good results from that. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?????? Are there any pills I can take? Any ideas? I weigh 129. Terrible for my age.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #1]
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How old are you? Height?

I'm 19 and weigh like 125, but am about 5 10.

You shouldn't worry, being light means your fast. And if you work out and have muscle, too, it's twice the shit!

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9380420 -

phera-vol. its a steroid, but you will gain weight if you take the cycle and eat 4-5k calories a day. make sure you eat that much every day, too, not just the days you work out.

if you can't put on a good 20lbs + during the cycle, you need to go get tested for tape-worms.

you can get Phera Vol for pretty cheap at discountanabolics.com, if they havent made it illegal yet.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Me too man im 19 about 5'11 165.  I have always been skinny, but i also run about 3 days a week, play raquet balls and occasionally lift at the gym if my neighbor needs a partner.  I have done the whole protein regemine too, i just stay the same.:shrug:

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #4]
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I think protein for like two weeks made a minor difference. In fact, I'll make one right now, it's chocolate flavored! :yummy:

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Before I got into mycology, my biggest hobby was bodybuilding and fitness. I lost about 65 lbs over the course of 6 months. Gaining and losing weight are all about managing calories.

Multiply your weight x 10 and you'll have your maintenance calories or the number of calories you need to eat per day to stay at your weight without factoring in exercise. If you're trying to gain, you need to add 1000-1500 to that with lots of good protein (tuna, salmon, chicken, steak) and lots of good carbs (as much brown rice, whole grain pasta as you can eat).

Take your protein shakes before working out and immediately after. 1 scoop of whey in water along with a banana an hour before you hit the gym and two scoops of whey in whole milk mixed with fruit after. You need a ton of carbs and protein after you get done lifting.

Weight gain shakes are trash. All you need are a multi vitamin, whey protein, and creatine.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Fuck. I've never had instructions for this sorta thing. Can everybody gain weight/mass, or are some people just genetically disposed to a lean body structure?

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anybody can gain or lose weight, but there's three major body types.

Ectomorph: Smaller bone structure, lots of trouble gaining mass and muscle. Very lean and thin.

Endomorph: Large bone structure, puts on mass (and fat) very easily. Usually has trouble losing body fat.

Mesomorph: Best of both worlds. These are the assholes that can eat cheeseburgers every day and look stacked. Very easy to gain lean body mass (muscle) and don't put on body fat that much.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #5]
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I never really tried to eat alot to gain mass, I only used protein shakes to get stronger when I work out, and I think it's made a difference; I get stronger pretty fast when I work out, I just get lazy and put if off sometimes.

I think I am somewhere between an Ectomorph and a Mesomorph.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #2]
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thanks for all of the replies. Maybe ill try the dicountanabolics website. The protein shakes and calorie thing haven't worked well though.

it's always a huge struggle when I talk to people about this because they don't seem to get the "i have no appetite" thing. I have the appetite of an aids patient. I've had blood test, etc. I'm completely healthy. Trying to cram food down your throat when you have no appetite makes you feel like your going to puke your guts out, it's almost painful, literally. I consider myself a fairly tough person when it comes to these things, but this is the toughest goddamn thing I've had to work with.

seriously though, steroids? Anyone have experience with this?

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #1]
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yes, i've used Phera Vol and its precursor, Phera Plex, to gain weight, both are steroids. i had no negative effects other than roid rage, which is pretty bad when youre driving. my nuts didnt shrink, i didnt get bacne, none of the usual shit people are scared of. the first time i used Phera Plex, i went from 155 to 180 in a month and a half. i finished a Phera Vol cycle about a month ago, i only gained 15lbs this time, but i think its b/c i didnt stick with my diet good enough, i was too broke to eat right. this time i actually noticed a very increased sex-drive, but there were still no negative effects (save roid rage).

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Try out a creatine mix if you haven't already. You don't get as sore and you're hungry more often. Just be sure to drink plenty of water while using it.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #6]
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Yeah i do the creatine thing sometimes, recently too actually. It seems to help a bit.

"my nuts didn't shrink" hahaha. I might try that stuff.

Ok, so here's a question. These steroids basically mimic testosterone-- thereby helping you put on weight. I'm definitly straight, and this has nothing to do with sexuality, but I rarely feel 'manly'. I don't try to pick fights with people and shit, I don't watch football, etc etc. I do fuck my girlfriend all the time (so don't make accusations lol). Could it be that I'm lacking testosterone???

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #1]
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yeah i realize that sounded stupid, but it does follow logic if you think about it

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I'm in the same boat dude it pisses me off because I'm 5'11 I wiegh 135 pounds but bench 190 if I could just put on like 25 pounds I would be strong as fuck but I cant do it.

Bullshit healthy metabolism.:grin:

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #1]
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It is logical to think that.  To increase growth hormone levels, you need to eat plenty (good fats and dietary cholestorol are essential) and get plenty of rest.  In addition, excessive drinking can be counterproductive to increasing testosterone levels, so cut back.  Most people don't recommend steroids until you're about 25 as this when your natural test production begins to decrease.  SO yeah.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #8]
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too bad GHB isnt still around.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Damn, I've been trying to put on weight for some time too. I would eat fat as fuck and work out with little success -- I attributed it to being so active.

Then I stopped working out and started drinking. I've put on 25 lbs in the last 2 months, but in all the wrong places. Now I work out again and cant seem to lose the fat, or put on muscle.

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #7]
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GHG?

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Re: weight loss [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Some people just aren't blessed in certain genetic departments.

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