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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: doze]
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:rockon::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: FellowGrower]
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:bow2:


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: ShadowSpore]
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Edited by shroomzey (02/20/09 01:51 PM)

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomzey]
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*** UPDATE ***

Phew, I've been quite busy lately so it has definitely been a project trying to get this thing wrapped up.  Here is the progress:


I had to cut some PVC and duct tape that PVC to some of the scraps from when I cut off the supports to shorten the thing.  I don't need a ton of head space on this top shelf as I'm going to use it to introduce trays.



This is greenhouse opened up.  I couldn't find any plastic trays large enough to place the 36 x 18 inch shelf unit, so I just picked up a 4' x 8' sheet of particle board, made a tray, weather proofed it and then lined it with plastic.  This actually ended up being more cost effective, as I used the same board to make the greenhouse mixing box.  The bottom is filled up with perlite to catch and re-humidify the air.



This is a better back up shot of the set-up.  I just got this whole thing up last night, likely in the next couple of days I'll get the second one up... I figured I should do one completely first then the next so that I'd fuck up on one and not the other.  I'm glad I did.



This is the humidifier/reservoir.  It is a 5 gallon bucket with an intake(from the blower) and an outtake that splits to each greenhouse.  I plan to add a small screw cap coupling as a "fill cap" so I don't have to take off the lid to check the water level or to fill it up.



This is it running with the lid off, the air-stone is cemented to the bottom of the bucket, and the ultrasonic fogger is floating on a buoy, the lines are coming in through the very top part of the bucket so I don't have to deal with wires coming out of the bucket lid.



Here is a close up of the cycle timer that is controlling the fogger and the air-stone, I have to yet to decide if I want them seperate(without the air-stone on the timer.)  This puppy was 99$ with shipping included.  Sadly I found a much better deal than our sponsor's after I purchased it, if you want the info just PM me.



Here is a better close up shot of the air-return mixing box.  The purpose of this experiment is to see if I can exploit any advantages over re-circulating already humidified air, as this allows you to blow a ridiculous amount of FAE over your grow area without drying out your substrate.  This, in time, once tuned should allow me to give tons of FAE and control the eb and flow of evaporation from the substrate layer while keeping the air humidified.  The constant FAE should also aid in contam control.  However, I'm unsure about how well, and the fact that the system goes between both houses.. it may be counter-productive and could make the contam issue even worse.  Better news though is that since the room will have a small air-return mixing box itself(HEPA filtered) this MAY help.  This mixing box is NOT filtered.  From the preview that I posted above you can see that it is lined with a roof weatherproofing agent, and then sealed.

Also, I still have a variable motor control that is in the mail, so soon as I get that I'll switch out the normal switch and put that in.

Also, I started off putting the intake air (to the greenhouse) on the bottom, and the outtake on top.  After firing it up for a few minutes last night I may make a change and switch those.  The humidified air seems to fall from the hose, for some reason I thought the initial set-up would work better.  Why?  I have no clue.  Guess you just have to fuck it up enough until you get it right, right?  =)



This is a better top-down view.  Obviously you see the blower mounted on the left(which blows into the bucket).  The large ball valve that you see on the right is for fresh air intake.  And the back two valves are for return air from the greenhouses.  This whole system is an experiment, so please don't think that I have this down to a pat yet.  Not nearly.  This system may not even be fully intuitive, especially for the normal home grower.  I will report back on it's functionality.

To see why I wanted to pursue this endeavor, see here.



Ah yes, and here is the small work bench that has been done for quite a while.  It is quite messy, I apologize, and there is still a decent amount to add to this half of the room.  I ended up removing the fridge from the room to make more space.  Vacutainer master cultures really don't take up that much room.  I have a lot of shelving to still go up on this half, and also in the inter-change room or as I like to call it, "The Dirty Room." :wink:


Any questions, please feel free to ask.


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Edited by shroomzey (02/20/09 01:53 PM)

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomzey]
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Shits getting close aint it? Looking great.

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: Doodle]
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Can't wait until we get to see it full of happy baby shrooms.


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: Basement Boy]
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Basement Boy said:
Can't wait until we get to see it full of happy baby shrooms.


X2 i wanna see this room flowing with fungus! With all this work it better be right!


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: xswaveyx]
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lookin good cant wait to see the room running

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: smily]
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Looks awesome man, Im really impressed with the room.

The return-air humidifier might be a bit of an issue, though.. I'm really interested to see how it works.  I think as long as you introduce some outside air into the humidifier for a few minutes daily, at least, then that may be enough oxygen to allow the mushrooms to breathe properly.  Depends how much fungus you've got in there and how quickly it's consuming O2.  You'll definately have to play around with that, and keep in mind that how often you introduce outside air will have to change depending on how many fruits you've got going in there.  I'm confident you'll find something that works!  You seem very determined and competent.  I can't wait to see some results!

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomer17]
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The return-air humidifier might be a bit of an issue, though.. I'm really interested to see how it works.  I think as long as you introduce some outside air into the humidifier for a few minutes daily, at least, then that may be enough oxygen to allow the mushrooms to breathe properly.


Thats why there is a large ball valve(the one next to the blower) that is for adjusting fresh air intake into the system.  I can leave it fully open as if it were a normal humidifier, and close the return air valve.  And since I have full control of the air flow rate, fresh air intake, return air flow, and the timing of the fogger and air stone, my options are unlimited as to how I want to adjust the variables.  In a little over a week I'll be testing it.


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomzey]
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I am watching this very closely.  Great work buddy.

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomzey]
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shroomzey said:
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The return-air humidifier might be a bit of an issue, though.. I'm really interested to see how it works.  I think as long as you introduce some outside air into the humidifier for a few minutes daily, at least, then that may be enough oxygen to allow the mushrooms to breathe properly.


Thats why there is a large ball valve(the one next to the blower) that is for adjusting fresh air intake into the system.  I can leave it fully open as if it were a normal humidifier, and close the return air valve.  And since I have full control of the air flow rate, fresh air intake, return air flow, and the timing of the fogger and air stone, my options are unlimited as to how I want to adjust the variables.  In a little over a week I'll be testing it.


Ahh I understand now.  Well that sounds absolutely ideal.  I can't wait to see it in action.  Hope you've got your spawn colonizing! :thumbup:

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomer17]
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shroomer17 said:
shroomzey said:
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The return-air humidifier might be a bit of an issue, though.. I'm really interested to see how it works.  I think as long as you introduce some outside air into the humidifier for a few minutes daily, at least, then that may be enough oxygen to allow the mushrooms to breathe properly.


Thats why there is a large ball valve(the one next to the blower) that is for adjusting fresh air intake into the system.  I can leave it fully open as if it were a normal humidifier, and close the return air valve.  And since I have full control of the air flow rate, fresh air intake, return air flow, and the timing of the fogger and air stone, my options are unlimited as to how I want to adjust the variables.  In a little over a week I'll be testing it.


Ahh I understand now.  Well that sounds absolutely ideal.  I can't wait to see it in action.  Hope you've got your spawn colonizing! :thumbup:


Can see it on the shelves in pics :wink:


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Holy shit man, that's fucking pro!

5 :mushroom2: 4 U!


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: RobMarley420]
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***UPDATE***

I've decided to do a video for this update, I figure once the whole room is complete I'll do an entire video run down of the room explaining how I went about the construction.

I got the second greenhouse up today and hooked up to the mixing box, I also turn the shop light 90 degrees to better light the GH's.  I also installed the variable motor speed controller(replacing the simple switch).  And I can't wait to get them both rocking... as you can tell.  =)

Obviously the quality isn't amazing, but that is all you get for now.



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Never accept mediocrity, always return the love that is given to you.

Edited by shroomzey (02/19/09 10:23 PM)

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomzey]
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Looks like that greenhouse is full already! Cant wait to see some pornnnnnn


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: shroomzey]
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nice:rockon:


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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: nw_shroomy]
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Fucking great man, i got 5 shrooms with your name on em. Keep us posted on the progress i can wait to see some porn of em both fruiting. Is that all your gonna place in there is those two tiers or are more in the works?

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: Doodle]
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:yakko:

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Re: Need Help Designing A Shroom Room [Re: Doodle]
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Doodle said:
Fucking great man, i got 5 shrooms with your name on em. Keep us posted on the progress i can wait to see some porn of em both fruiting. Is that all your gonna place in there is those two tiers or are more in the works?


For greenhouses.. this is gonna be it.  I can't fit another one of these in there, and I don't think I'll have enough time to keep a third one full.

At first I would have done three 4 tier martha style greenhouses that you could order off the net.  But the shelves on the ones I was looking at were 27" wide and 19" deep with 4 shelves, plus like 50 bucks each.  The ones I built have 5 tiers and are 36" wide and 18" deep, and were 40 each + 3 bucks for plastic.  Now I had to modify these puppies a lot, so time wise it has definitely taxed me.  I had to build custom trays to encompass each one cause they're bigger than any plastic trays I could find.  Even the plastic trays I found that were too small were like 19$ each.

And space wise: 3 of those greenhouses =  6156 square inches on shelf space,
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2 of mine = 6480 square inches of shelf space.

Granted I have a lot less head room, there is a foot of space for each shelf with each tray being 2.5 inches tall thats only 9.5 inches of head room plus a little bit more since the shelves have some space on the underside of them.

What this room has taught me a lot of... is efficiency.  Space efficiency.  If I had a 10X12' foot room to myself... I would keel over in happiness and die.

I COULD have a mono or two growing in here, but I hate mono's now.  They have their place and they do their thing with neglect and cheaply... but they take up way too much space and it is way too much work keeping a lot of them going(in the space I have given). 

If you're doing a bulk grow or two, do mono's.  They're cheap and easy.  Once you start going past 5-6 mono's, just do a greenhouses, it is a lot less hassle.  And a lot easier to work with trays than moving around a bunch of huge tubs.


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