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OfflineNickthetrip
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Poor White boy needs Casing help
    #897146 - 09/21/02 12:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I cant sem to find vermiculite anywhere...and now i am broke I need help on what I can use as a casing....all I have is perlite thats all I could find can anyone help me on this matterof how to make a casing from house hold materials and lets not forget I live in the country next farms if that helps. PLEASE SOMEONE HELP thanks


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: Nickthetrip]
    #897150 - 09/21/02 12:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think you're going to want to fork over some cash for coir, peat, lime (oyster shells), and/or vermiculite. I can't think of any other materials that would be as suitable for a casing mixture.


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[Re: Nickthetrip]
    #897151 - 09/21/02 12:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: matts]
    #897152 - 09/21/02 12:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I disagree. As a casing layer, verm in my opinion is superior to straw and manure.


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: Nickthetrip]
    #897153 - 09/21/02 12:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You could possibly mix up and sterilize/pasteurize some regular potting soil with some of that perlite to keep it from getting packed down. Although I have never personally tried it, there is no reason that it wouldn't work.


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: NeonBlack]
    #897157 - 09/21/02 12:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Regular potting soil could work, but it sucks compared to using traditional casing materials, and I don't think you ever want perlite in your casing mixture.


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    #897159 - 09/21/02 12:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #897160 - 09/21/02 12:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Is that due to the water retention properties of verm?


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: matts]
    #897165 - 09/21/02 12:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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verm is not nutritious



Exactly, and as far as I can tell, he wants information concerning his casing layer, not what to use as a nutritive bulk substrate.  This is what he states: I cant sem to find vermiculite anywhere...and now i am broke I need help on what I can use as a casing....

If he needs a casing layer, poo or straw would be poor choices.  If he wants information concerning bulk substrates and how to case them, he needs to read the FAQ.. :wink:

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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #897166 - 09/21/02 12:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

Is that due to the water retention properties of verm?



That plus the fact that vermiculite is inert and has no nutrients.


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    #897174 - 09/21/02 12:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: matts]
    #897179 - 09/21/02 12:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

it could be used to make everything flat...nutritious or not...and the nutrients are just a plus



Huh?


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #897181 - 09/21/02 12:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you are on fire my man!


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    #897185 - 09/21/02 12:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: matts]
    #897189 - 09/21/02 12:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

50/50+ and poo do the same thing, they give the casing something to colonize, and hold in water, the difference is poo is nutritious, which is an added bonus.



Yes, but the manure contaminates much easier than a non-nutritive casing layer. I find this a marked disadvantage. Additionally, manure does not hold nearly the same amount of water in my experience, and it's not even close to as light and airy.

If you would like to conduct a little test, next time, fruit one tray of manure without a traditional casing and one with 50/50+. See which one peforms better..


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #897220 - 09/21/02 01:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

So manure ok now what about sterilizing it doesnt it smell doing this? and for straw if I cannot find and in the neighbors barn tonite could dry grass clippings work to?


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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: Nickthetrip]
    #897227 - 09/21/02 01:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

All your questions will be answered in the Cultivation FAQ.  Concerning grass clippings, I wouldn't use it.  Find some straw, but please ask permission.  Nobody likes a thief.  :grin:

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[Re: mickey_rourke]
    #897243 - 09/21/02 01:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Poor White boy needs Casing help [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #897248 - 09/21/02 01:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ok but no theif is involved..just with the manure and wow is that stealing no!


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    #897254 - 09/21/02 01:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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