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Could use a little advice
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Well I have been a pretty hardcore opiate user for almost 3 years (Mainly doing things like Morphine, Oxycontin, Methadone). And I want to greatly cut back how much I use.

I still have some stuff left but would like to not use any of it for a few days or a week (if possible). I was just wondering what is a good way to get through the pain of withdrawls? (and I dont want to use Valiume or Xanax to do it, as that is just switching out one addiction for another).

Are there any OTC products that could help? (I hear Imodium AD works wonders but have never actually talked to anyone first hand that has tried it).

I plan to use some ganj to help, are there any other herbs that would help to kill stomach pains?

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #1]
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i would personally advise having a friend oversee the process and give you like, 1 pill in the morning and 1 at night. ween yourself. you need disaprin.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Clonodine works really well, but its prescription.  You shouldn't even bother quiting because your just gonna relapse.  You don't sound ready to quit opiates.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Kratom is supposed to work well, heard that from a junkie I knew.  I believe he said the 'red vein thai'was the best type to use.  Get the concentrated type, like 30% or more or sumthing.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #4]
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i would recommend getting some help if your serious about quitting.... those three drugs you listed are extreme narcotics and you may not be able to do this by yourself. Maybe an AA or NA meeting a week or a detox rehab.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Get yourself Kratom. It's not an opiate but it fits in the same chemical triggers and will really help with the withdrawals. Kicking a Kratom habit is much easier than smack, and much much easier than methadone, which is a fucking evil drug and you'd do yourself a favour if you flush it away right now.

There's also Iboga root and Ibogaine extract. It's a scary sounding African hallucinogen that has killed people from overdose before, but afterwards, there's reputably no withdrawals. Not just from opiates, but booze and cocaine, even nicotine. It's illegal in the US, but I hear heroin is as well.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #6]
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I am not going to go to any meetings. Aside from what I have hear about them, I am just not going to go public about an addiction.

I am sure I will use opiates again, but I never want to use them like I once did. I am not happy knowing something has such a power over me that I feel I NEED it.

Dont get me wrong I am not hating on opiates or anyone that uses them (as previously stated I use them myself). I just cant do this to myself anymore. I would like to be able wake up in the moring, smoke a bowl and feel like I once did.

Thanks for the input tho.  I am going to look into what Kratom does exactly. (If I remember correctly it effects some of the same receptors as opiates, right?)

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #6]
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I am not going to go to any meetings. Aside from what I have hear about them, I am just not going to go public about an addiction.

I am sure I will use opiates again, but I never want to use them like I once did. I am not happy knowing something has such a power over me that I feel I NEED it.

Dont get me wrong I am not hating on opiates or anyone that uses them (as previously stated I use them myself). I just cant do this to myself anymore. I would like to be able wake up in the moring, smoke a bowl and feel like I once did.

Thanks for the input tho.  I am going to look into what Kratom does exactly. (If I remember correctly it effects some of the same receptors as opiates, right?)

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Try an antihistimine! I know that sounds crazy but in my experience it actually works somewhat.

Also you could try tramadol. It's a synthetic opioid that will mimic the neurological effects of opiates and it's WAY less addictive, so your withdrawal will be slower and easier.

There's not really a good way to get around it other than toughing it out though. At least get off it for a while to give your liver a break.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #7]
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no need for drugs

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #8]
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The last thing you need is a pill. Man up.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Anonymous said:
The last thing you need is a pill. Man up.


OP, Here.

easy for you to say asshole. Today all I did was 5mg of methadone tho and I dont feel bad. I have no real buzz to speak of, but I am not hurting. So there might be hope. If 5mg can help and 5mg aint shit. I am sure after a few days I can go from 5mg to like 2.5mg (a quater of a 10). then to nothing at all.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #1]
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(Op here again)

Well that 5mg wore off and I don't feel like I can do this. God Damn addiction.

well fuck it, I tried.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Not very hard, Christ.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous said:
Not very hard, Christ.


I disagree, and I think 1000's of other people would to.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous said:
Not very hard, Christ.

haha

2 days... maybe next time you can do 3.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #9]
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I love how this forum is suppose to be to help people, but all I ever find is a bunch of assholes that ridicule people over shit. Maybe you should all pull your heads out of your ass's and actually contribute something helpful FOR ONCE.

All I ever see here anymore is a topic with someone with a serious problem and 10 posts making fun of them for it.

Addiction is not something to be taken lightly or joked about. Its a serious fucking problem that most people have. Maybe you should all just go to AA and drink beer and call them all pussy's or tell them to "man up"

jesus fucking christ.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I am sure I will use opiates again, but I never want to use them like I once did.


As long as you feel this way you will never quit.  There is no reason to ever use them again, and when you are truly free from them you wont want anything to do with them ever again.

The best thing you can do is fight this mentality.  It only serves to prolong the moment until you are a free person again.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said:
I love how this forum is suppose to be to help people, but all I ever find is a bunch of assholes that ridicule people over shit. Maybe you should all pull your heads out of your ass's and actually contribute something helpful FOR ONCE.

All I ever see here anymore is a topic with someone with a serious problem and 10 posts making fun of them for it.

Addiction is not something to be taken lightly or joked about. Its a serious fucking problem that most people have. Maybe you should all just go to AA and drink beer and call them all pussy's or tell them to "man up"

jesus fucking christ.


Shut the fuck up, you penis-mongering treehugger.

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Re: Could use a little advice [Re: Anonymous #11]
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the above poster has the best advice

and kratom will help but you must get off that shit too

you need to stop feeding your opiate receptors and let the system get back to its natural equilibrium

and that takes time

no drug will help after a certain point

if you really want to get clean you need to stop. its hard and simple at the same time

not to hurt your esteem, but from the way you sound, you probably will use again. but each time you genuinely try to quit you will learn something new, and how to tackle the problem better each time. after 3 years don't expect to quit all at once.

i'm glad you can see that you don't want it to be this way. you really need to hold onto that thought, cause a month down the road you won't think twice about using unless you really really despise the shit.

i suppose the people who have told you to just quit have the right idea but they came off as assholes.

but it's the truth, getting off the drugs will be the easy part, staying sober is when it gets real tough man.

keep your head up, you can do it

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