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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa
    #84366 - 05/20/00 05:14 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Hi man..
I started to use a mix of amaranth/quinoa/rye/ground flax seed. (similar to alien's substrate formula)
WOW FUCKING GOOD MIX
Absolutely fast to colonize, with more mushies x cake and also bigger.
Right now i have a batch of six jars colonized with ryche's b+
3 with simple BRF/verm, and 3 with that formula...
results?
the BRF cakes starts to form primordia when the others have about 15/20 mushies 1 inch tall :biggrin:. Also a BRF jar isn't 100% colonized at this time.
I'LL NEVER USE BRF AGAIN!!!!


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84368 - 05/20/00 05:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Here the exact recipe:

1 part quinoa
1 part amaranth
1 part rye
3 parts vermiculite
1/3 part ground flax seed

Cook the quinoa and the amaranth in some mineral water for 20 minutes, strain the grains but keep the water.
Do the same for the rye but cook it for 45 minutes, strain and discard the water.
Mix all the ingredients and add 1 part of the water were you cooked the quinoa/amaranth (this water it's full with nutriens).
Now you have the right moiture content.
Fill your jars as usual and be ready for a hoge crop!!

[This message has been edited by CLuB99 (edited June 01, 2000).]



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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84369 - 05/20/00 11:19 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

What is the reason for pre-cooking the grains?Aren't they going to get cooked plenty in the pressure cooker?I eat quinoa all the time,and it only takes about 15 minutes of gentle simmering.Wouldn't it be easier to just mix everything and a certain amount of water and just do it in one shot?
jes wonderin'....


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84370 - 05/21/00 12:21 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

it helps get the water content right if you cook the grains first


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84371 - 05/21/00 01:01 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

When you say add one part of the water back, how much exactly is one part?
I have a health food store handy with all these wonderful grains available in bulk. :smile:

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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84372 - 05/21/00 01:57 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

aural:
keyzar it's right...you'll have the right moisture content precooking the grains...all the grains!!
SpaceFarmer:
If you use a 1/2 pint jar to measure a part then it's a 1/2 pint jar... :wink:


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84373 - 05/21/00 02:00 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

SpaceFarmer: you are a lucky guy to find those grains bulk. I pay 3.50$ for a 250g packet..


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84374 - 05/21/00 02:26 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

..my point,belabored as it now is,is that it would be possible with a little trial and error to come up with a recipe where everything is combined in the jar at the start.Just the the 'ol "brown rice in qt. jar" method,or for that matter the classic rye formulae.
PS organic quinoa is $1.79/lb at the coop!


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84375 - 05/21/00 03:48 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

aural, you're right...
But for who's not expert, like me, preparing the mix with all ingredients can be a pain in the hess to achieve the right moisture content...


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84376 - 05/21/00 08:08 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

You lucky sacks, I am growing my own Quinoa just to see what the plant is like and to judge crop yield from my little clay pots.


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84377 - 05/21/00 08:36 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Club99: do you still have to pressure cook the substrate after boiling the quinoa/amaranth/rye?


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84378 - 05/21/00 08:54 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Learner-you should consider growing amaranth too-the greens are edible,and some species make HUGE seed heads (Seeds of Change,in Santa Fe has a wide variety).


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99] * 1
    #84379 - 05/21/00 12:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

JC Sure, use the cooked mix to fill your jars as usual, put a layer of verm on top then pressure cook....


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Re: Amaranth grain and Quinoa [Re: CLuB99]
    #84380 - 05/21/00 07:49 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Of all the darn organic Quinoa I threw in the clay pot, only 3 germinated.

Of the 3, one went tits up to the great plant heaven a day later. The second didn't, couldn't, wouldn't want to get a root hold.

The third however went gangbusters and using pinching techniques I've bushed it out considerably.

Looks like a good succulent dry climate hardy plant so far. Lots of hairs to keep moisture.



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