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OfflineDERRAYLD
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Spore Prints
    #842996 - 08/25/02 09:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have a simple statement to make that I thought everyone new allready.
When making prints don`t use cardboard or paper that is absorbent because inevitably the spores are going to become unuseable when absorbed into the material.
I`m saying this because I recieved a print from someone on the shroomery that was small but totally unuseable.
So try using tinfoil or a similar glossy material so the spores stick but don`t absorb into the material.


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #843001 - 08/25/02 09:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Absorb into the material? I've gotten quite a few paper prints and never had this problem. I have seen prints on paper that were damaged somewhat in the mail -- the print appeared to be smudged and the spores were "rubbed" into the paper through friction -- but they still were fine.

How was the print unusable?


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #843009 - 08/25/02 09:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

maybe someone used carboard or blotter paper


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: tekramrepus]
    #843052 - 08/25/02 10:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I`ve never personally had this problem with prints I`ve made but this was a print recieved from someone so I`m only guessing it was the paper used.
Because the print was useless, I wet the card and tried to scrape whatever was useable into the shot-glass.
So I`m innoculating some birdseed and hoping something grows, there was no noticeable spore in the syringe.
All the spores seemed to have gotten absorbed into the paper.


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #843073 - 08/25/02 10:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

In reply to:

Because the print was useless, I wet the card and tried to scrape whatever was useable into the shot-glass.


If you wet the card, the spores most likely will not drop into the solution. Did you scrape paper and all into the shot glass?


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #843074 - 08/25/02 10:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

just an idea......but why not cut the paper into really tiny peices, or maybe blend it up in a blender.....im sure theres some way you can still use this print......anyone got any ideas for this man.....im kinda new here, any experts wanna back me on this?


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Edited by wrestler_az (08/25/02 10:19 PM)


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: wrestler_az]
    #843123 - 08/25/02 11:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I scraped paper and all into the shot glass.
When you hold the syringe to the light you can see loads of paper fragments
so I`m guessing some spores will be in the syringe.
SO I`ll innoculate with extra CCs of solution and wait and see.
The thing is though the print was soooo tiny as well.
I just don`t understand why someone would make a tiny print firstly and then secondly not try to see if the print will absorb into the paper.

When I print caps I choose the largest and most impressive shrooms, that way my prints are dark and big.


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #843127 - 08/25/02 11:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

If the print wasn't contaminated and you made the syringe aseptically, I bet you'll be surprised!


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #843135 - 08/25/02 11:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Only time will tell mickey rourke.
The only thing I`m worried about that is by using more solution I might push the moisture content in the jar up making it soggy.
But birdseed is cheap and prints are readily available so I aint got jack to loose
But just like I`ve been told soo many times, any spore you can see is most likely a group of a couple hundred or thousand spores.
So I`ll have a jar of Hawaiin mycelium soon
Time is my friend.


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[Re: DERRAYLD]
    #843378 - 08/26/02 04:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Spore Prints [Re: matts]
    #843499 - 08/26/02 07:03 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

how much solution were you planning on using per jar? and how does this affect mycellium growth?


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    #843503 - 08/26/02 07:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Spore Prints [Re: matts]
    #843519 - 08/26/02 07:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I personally would like to know your definition of "unusable."

I print on manila folder stock that I cut to shape for each cap. I have had no problems with spores easily scraping into the shot glass.

You sure you actually got spores?

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Re: Spore Prints [Re: Boppity604]
    #845361 - 08/26/02 09:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

ok let me explain this once again.
I would think by my previous explanation unusable would be easy to understand.
The print had soaked or absorbed into the paper.
There wasn`t a single spore able to be scraped off.
I had to scrape the fibres of paper into the shot glass.
Once I had sucked up the contents of the shot glass into the syringe there was only paper fibres in the syringe.
So fine I innoculated 2 jars with 5cc per jar just to be safe.

Now the question remains, was the print actually unusable??? we'll have to see in the next 2 days now won`t we.

And Boppity no disrespect but do you really think I don`t know what a spore print looks like????
When I print caps I choose the best specimens and print them, my prints are always big black prints, when it comes time to make a syringe there`s never a problem with trying to scrape spores off.
So when I get a tiny light print originally labeled as large dark hawaiin print I get annoyed.
Then trying to use it and not even being able to scrape spores off I get peeved.

So this is reality and I was merely trying to bring it to the communities attention.
Just be wary of what you print on, that`s all I was trying to say.




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Re: Spore Prints [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #845429 - 08/26/02 09:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i have had the same problem, what i do is fill a syringe with sterile water, let cool, inject through the bag, shake around untill most of the spores are suspended, then suck the water back into the syringe.


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Re: Spore Prints [Re: canid]
    #852043 - 08/29/02 09:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well Mickey I guess the proof is in the poodin.
The jars have started growing and seem to be doing just fine.
Proof that clear isn`t bad when dealing with syringes.


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