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2008 Elections
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Their coming up. Are you a registered voter? Do you believe it makes a difference? Im not. CSNBC reported that it was recently discovered that all three candidates are related. Just another reason to prove what ive been telling people all along. Presidents are not elected by the people they are born into it through bloodlines and then carefully placed into positions of power by the elite groups that covertly control this thing we call a goverment.

"Choosing a president is like selecting between three different masks that cover the same face." David Icke
Are you going to vote?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 04/23/08 12:38 AM until the end of time
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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."

We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: Akira]
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Id vote if i could.


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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: The_Ghost]
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Obama for the motha fuckin winnnnnnnnnnnnnn


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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: Akira]
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Secret world orders and covert government operations and indoctrinations aren't necessary with our form of government. The self-perpetuating two-party dominance and the corporate stranglehold in Washington that results in a political and economic business hierarchy and that constantly eeks closer to a manipulative dictatorship is suppressive and controlling. We the people think we make the decisions, but our government and it's bedmates (the Wall-Street guys) are deep into the business of controlling and manipulating the masses while clinging to a facade of being "technically" democratic.

I vote out of principle, rather than believing in doing something. My only hope is that my vote and others like mine will someday bring people like Ralph Nader, Mike Gravel, Cynthis McKinney, Dennis Kucinich, etc. to the forefront and intot he spotlight. Until then, I'm prepared to be perpetually deceived and lied to by candidates and I'm prepared to live in a society commanded by the capitalist elite and manipulative officials, rather than myself and the rest of the "stupid majority".


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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"
Jiddu Krishnamurti

"That's a marvelous structural technique of propaganda... It is only in folk tales, children's stories, and the journals of intellectual opinion that power is used wisely and well to destroy evil. The real world teaches very different lessons, and it takes willful and dedicated ignorance to fail to perceive them.”
Noam Chomsky

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: The Tourist]
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What most people don't realize about voting in presidential elections is the the vote of the people of this country is called the popular vote and the vote the actually decides the president is called the electoral vote, the electoral vote is decided by several small groups, not by the American people!! So NO we never have had any real influence to begin with. And my bet is Hillary will win (HATE THAT CUNT) or Obama (Osama?) with Hillary as Vice.

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: shroom_me]
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Thats why you can have the most votes and lose...


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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: Brainiac]
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yup like in 2000

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: shroom_me]
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shroom_me said:
What most people don't realize about voting in presidential elections is the the vote of the people of this country is called the popular vote and the vote the actually decides the president is called the electoral vote, the electoral vote is decided by several small groups, not by the American people!! So NO we never have had any real influence to begin with. And my bet is Hillary will win (HATE THAT CUNT) or Obama (Osama?) with Hillary as Vice.


It is called the electoral college. And it has more to do with states rights than any thing else.

Each state is allowed "electoral votes" based on their population. If Texas voted primarily for Hilliary then she would get that states electoral vote.

In the end, electoral votes, are what determines who wins.

Your vote counts.....to a point.


If the decision was based strictly on popular vote, then California and New York would be the only two states that the candidates would have to worry about.


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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: niteowl]
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good point niteowl!!

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: shroom_me]
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I will not vote. McCain has already won don't you see? There is no chance for the democrats..

If you are of draft age you had better start thinking about what you will do when we go to war with Iran.

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: The_Ghost]
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Has anybody else noticed that the three choices for president are all sitting Senators that come from a congress that has one of the lowest approval ratings in the history of the US?

It isn't that "There is no chance for the democrats," rather there is no hope for change. I would support a random business person off the street before supporting one of the three stooges we are left to choose from.


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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: Seuss]
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Don't waste your votes!! VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!

Edited by shroom_me (04/23/08 11:43 PM)

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: shroom_me]
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im sorry to say that a vote for ron paul is a wasted vote. as long as its a two party system people like paul (who i heavily support) do not stand a chance, which is sad

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: nalyudi]
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I'm voting because I still have the right to.




I'm not kidding, either.

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: Adden]
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Im voting. Im still in the undecided category but I wouldnt ever vote for Hilliary Clinton. Im leaning more towards Barack but I havent ruled out John McCain either. I have my own research to complete before I come to a final decision on who deserves my vote.

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: hazey]
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hazey said:
I will not vote. McCain has already won don't you see?


No, I really don't.


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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: shroom_me]
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Why should we vote for Ron Paul?
I don't like the idea of corporations doing whatever the fuck they want and taking over the world. Allowing the dollar sign to further become the world's sole concern is a good thing for business and economic growth, and a great thing for social, intellectual, cultural, moral, and environmental death.


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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"
Jiddu Krishnamurti

"That's a marvelous structural technique of propaganda... It is only in folk tales, children's stories, and the journals of intellectual opinion that power is used wisely and well to destroy evil. The real world teaches very different lessons, and it takes willful and dedicated ignorance to fail to perceive them.”
Noam Chomsky

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: The Tourist]
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the pub is not an area for serious political discussion. that has its own page....take it there.

Edited by nalyudi (04/24/08 12:26 AM)

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: shroom_me]
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And hey, aren't most of us westerners big on this idea of "democracy"? Well what are we doing supporting capitalism, a strictly and wholeheartedly (< very much a metaphor in the case of capitalism) un-democratic system, running amok?

Is Ron Paul's stated plan to directly reinforce the plutocracy and corporate dictatorship that is running the western world, or just to reinforce the systems that create such a plutocracy?


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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"
Jiddu Krishnamurti

"That's a marvelous structural technique of propaganda... It is only in folk tales, children's stories, and the journals of intellectual opinion that power is used wisely and well to destroy evil. The real world teaches very different lessons, and it takes willful and dedicated ignorance to fail to perceive them.”
Noam Chomsky

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Re: 2008 Elections [Re: nalyudi]
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ok ok, gotcha. i'm done.


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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"
Jiddu Krishnamurti

"That's a marvelous structural technique of propaganda... It is only in folk tales, children's stories, and the journals of intellectual opinion that power is used wisely and well to destroy evil. The real world teaches very different lessons, and it takes willful and dedicated ignorance to fail to perceive them.”
Noam Chomsky

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