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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Odd. It's contrary to the American way as I understand it.


america is contrary to the american way



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Was the clause intended to weed out any parties that seek to abolish democracy, or was it specifically anti-Nazi?


it's difficult to find info on why it was passed, ask the court clerk and they give you the
"well, we wouldnt want america to become another germany would we"

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How hard is it to run for office? What are the requirements?


if you are eligible all you have to do is apply and pay any applicable fees, requirements
vary from place to place but most follow certain guidelines, anyone can hold political
office regardless of nationality with the exception of president, must be US born

what's difficult about politics, comint off the hip with the money to fund a campaign, donations are scarce


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: MaddenKing081]
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MaddenKing081 said:
You are aware that Republican Ron Paul supports drilling for oil in Alaska and in the Oceans.


are you aware that most others are as well, some are also eager to sell off public lands


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: MaddenKing081]
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You are aware that Republican Ron Paul supports drilling for oil in Alaska and in the Oceans.



I'm not pro-Ron Paul, nor am I against him. I'm a foreigner who knows too little of the situation by my own estimate, so I voted None Of The Above on all counts. If I were an American I'd get the facts though and find the candidate that'd suit my ideals best.

Personally I don't think Ron Paul will be elected, but I also don't think America would elect a woman (Hillary) or a black man (Obama) as the president. There's just too much conservativism going around, regardless of what candidates might stand for.

I'm completely in the dark who your next president will be.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
MaddenKing081 said:
You are aware that Republican Ron Paul supports drilling for oil in Alaska and in the Oceans.


are you aware that most others are as well, some are also eager to sell off public lands


Im not aware of any other canidates that support offshore drilling/ alaska drilling. But then again, Im a democrat/ independent. I will be voting for Barack Obama. I can get over the fact that he is African American and realize that he brings the best chance of hope.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: MaddenKing081]
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Im not aware of any other canidates that support offshore drilling/ alaska drilling.



Most probably will be. You guys need the oil, the economic boost, and to increase your independent position in acquiring primary energy.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Im not aware of any other canidates that support offshore drilling/ alaska drilling.



Most probably will be. You guys need the oil, the economic boost, and to increase your independent position in acquiring primary energy.


See I really dont believe so, IF they would legalize Hemp as a crop we could easily use hemp as a biomass fuel. Not to mention ethanol although I know we already have a shortage in corn anyways. I just feel their are plenty of alternative energy sources, but the oil industry is content on making their money.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: MaddenKing081]
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Hemp can't enough.

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Currently, the United States consumes 19.6 million barrels per day, of oil, which is more than 25% of the world's total. The rate of consumption for oil is increasing at a rate of about 2% yearly.


19.6 M x 365.25 = 7,16 billion barrels a year

Hold that number. Now multiply by 200

1.43 trillion liters of oil a year.

Okiedokie, now times umph please :smile:

14.300.000.000.000.000.000 calories of energy.

Thats 14.3 billion billion calories.

Do you seriously think the US can conjure up two trillion liters of biodiesel and ethanol every year? That would be equivalent to raising a crop that can feed 20 billion people for a year. Do you think American farmers rock that much that they can raise a crop that could feed 3 times the world's population? Sorry, no.

That's what it boils down to. We have got to bring fusion energy plants into our world, so far it's our only hope. Until then, fight the energy crisis with everything you got. You may hate nuclear power plants as much as the next guy, but we direly NEED them to bridge the gap until we have tamed fusion and commercially exploit it to meet most of our energy needs.

Nuclear --> DT fusion --> DD fusion

It's the only shot we've got at retaining our technology, living standard, and population.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: MaddenKing081]
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MaddenKing081 said:
Im not aware of any other canidates that support offshore drilling/ alaska drilling.


it doesnt have to be an overt agenda


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Do you seriously think the US can conjure up two trillion liters of biodiesel and ethanol every year?



using the Manson approach we can reduce consumption to just a few million barrels per year


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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it doesnt have to be an overt agenda



Its probably a thing that will be carried out by whoever takes office. The oil/energy crisis is a very serious one. Dependence of the USA on Middle-Eastern oil is also considered a serious problem.

Simply state you're against it if you're put on the spot, but when push comes to shove later on do an 180 degree turn. Its the oldest political trick in the book.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Manson approach? You mean reduce the population by 90%?


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Manson approach? You mean reduce the population by 90%?


exactly, kill 500 million to save a tree


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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it doesnt have to be an overt agenda


Its probably a thing that will be carried out by whoever takes office.


Remember hearing about the patriot act, passed through with just a couple days notice, no
one read its some 400 pages, no one checked the history of the bill, do you think this sort
of thing would be uncommon? it's not, a more popular method is to attach a rider to
budget, education, medicine and even conservation bill... imagine voting for a bill that would
make 'green energy' into the only acceptable form but in the fine print they have 900 years
to comply and all oil reserves must be depleted


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: MaddenKing081]
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MaddenKing081 said:
You are aware that Republican Ron Paul supports drilling for oil in Alaska and in the Oceans.


Good for him!

Beats going to war for it.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
That's what it boils down to. We have got to bring fusion energy plants into our world, so far it's our only hope. Until then, fight the energy crisis with everything you got. You may hate nuclear power plants as much as the next guy, but we direly NEED them to bridge the gap until we have tamed fusion and commercially exploit it to meet most of our energy needs.


:congrats::congrats::congrats:


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
I'm surprised you guys don't have a Christian Fundamentalist Party.


Ironically enough, they call themselves the "Constitution Party."


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Silversoul]
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i'd like ron paul to win just to see what would happen.

out of the "realistic" candidates i'd like obama to win.

i think there is a 90% chance gulliani will win no matter who the democrats put up.

anybody but mitt romney.


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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: truekimbo2]
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Regardless of who runs, it's going to be an interesting election to be sure.

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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: niteowl]
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I can't vote because I'm a felon, but if I could, I'd vote for Ron Paul. In any case, my vote wouldn't matter - shit's rigged anyways. Liberal, Conservative, Democrat, Republican - it's all 2 sides of the same coin.

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Re: USA Presidential elections 2008 -- tell us who you'll probably vote for and why! [Re: Asante]
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I will be voting for Kucinich in the primaries.

Why? He is the most grounded, consistent, compassionate and logical candidate running. Period.

Once the real election rolls around, I will be voting for whoever is running for the Dems.


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