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Do blind people hallucinate?
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Hey all,

I have a friend who has been blind from birth and is willing to trip our favorite mushroom(no im not kidding). My question is would he see visuals(CEVs) like the rest of us? Would it be overwhelming for someone who has never seen to see something?

He's blind from an eye problem he had since birth so i would assume the sacred mushroom would still affect his brain, creating visuals......?

Reading over that post it seems like an interesting question!
Fd


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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Dude that sounds crazy.. I bet he'd see whatever he "saw" in his mind's eye.. amplified. I dont think it'd overwhelm him due to the fact that he NEVER had sight.. So he has nothing to compare it to.. It'd be his imagination amplified by the hallucinogen.. That seems crazy... Crazy as hell..

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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Make sure you look after him man lol. I can imagine it could be little scary if you can't see.
Let us know how it goes, if he does it. I'd be interested to see how a blind person reacts to CEVs.

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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WOW, that's fascinating. I never pondered that possibility!

Oh yeah, do make sure to watch over him and care for him. Do be prepared if an emergency happens. Be wise, and let us know how it goes

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Brukan]
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Ya obviously ill be right there sober with him, just to make sure he stays calm. He smokes pot and has done low DXM doses so the altered state of mind shouldnt be a surprise.

Anyone else have any thoughts, theories or anything?
Fd


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Fd3000 is really a brown dancing monster. He uses the info he gets from his crazy dreams to help those in need. Too bad he doesn't really exist...

"I could walk up to the president and blow smoke in his stupid monkey face and all he could do is stand there grooving on it" - Homer Simpson

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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It could be the same as a deaf person. Would a deaf person hear any audio hallucinations on a trip? I'm not sure, I'm deaf myself, but when I take my hearing aids out, it's hard to distinguish between silence and noise, especially when your head is buzzing.
Well, perhaps all his (if he does) CEVs will be of images he's seen in dreams etc. I'm not sure if they dream or not either. It's quite interesting to think about. I wonder if he will see patterns of colours?

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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i have to know how it go's ,that sounds crazy


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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that sounds so amazing (this is maddhadder420's girlfriend) i personaly think it would be a good and spiritual feeling for him. just think someone who has been blind his whole life would actually have the chance to SEE something so great. right on i say go for it.but diffently watch over him.good luck!have fun....


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: MadDhAdDeR420]
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I used to know a kid who was blind. He smoked weed and drank alcohol. When he got high, he said he ate pizza and it was the best thing he's ever tasted in his life. He also said he kept slipping in and out of reality and thinking twisted thoughts. Shrooms would be interesting.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: thepodman]
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Make sure YOU NEVER LEAVE YOUR FRIEND ALONE WHILE TRIPPING. Hes already not dealing with a full hand, and shrooms could make doing things that are easy to us harder for him. I think it could be cool for him, and for you.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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holy shit man....you have to keep us updated on this one.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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when is he going to trip? i wanna know how it turns out.

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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"My question is would he see visuals(CEVs) like the rest of us? "

I guess he'll just have to wait and see!


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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Yeah, please tell us how it went, if it does happen.
I have always wondered about blind peoples inner experiences, especially those blind from birth. What do they dream? Interesting stuff


Good luck


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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Well he still hasnt desided but i think he'll end up doing it. What would be a nice dose for him, i was thinking 1.5g - 2g? Ill defiently keep you posted!

Fd


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Fd3000 is really a brown dancing monster. He uses the info he gets from his crazy dreams to help those in need. Too bad he doesn't really exist...

"I could walk up to the president and blow smoke in his stupid monkey face and all he could do is stand there grooving on it" - Homer Simpson

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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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A lot (but not all) mushroom imagery is from memory. Your friend will not have this to draw from. People blind from birth use their visual cortex to process touch. If they regain sight at a later date, they will never see properly, regardless of their optic fitness.

Back to your original question, your blind friend may have some overpowering feelings and sensations and interpret them to be "visual". However, he will NOT be able to tell you if he saw colors as he has no reference point.

The question will remain unanswerable.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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Yes please post the results of this. This is truly fascinating.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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give him an insanely high dose... naw 2.0 sounds good for a first time blind tripper.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Fd3000]
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I had a friend who lost his sight at 19. He had bit of a drug problem before his accident but afterword he became very depressed. He ended up using even more drugs. He didnt know what to do with himself and he also had a decent sized settlement. He ended up OD'ing at 22. Anyway he told me that he still got CEV's while tripping. He also said his favorite thing to do (besides drugs) was to sleep. Because he could see perfectly in his dreams.


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Re: Do blind people hallucinate? [Re: Swami]
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In reply to:

A lot (but not all) mushroom imagery is from memory. Your friend will not have this to draw from. People blind from birth use their visual cortex to process touch. If they regain sight at a later date, they will never see properly, regardless of their optic fitness.

Back to your original question, your blind friend may have some overpowering feelings and sensations and interpret them to be "visual". However, he will NOT be able to tell you if he saw colors as he has no reference point.

The question will remain unanswerable.




Thats an interesting point. How could he see anything if his mind has no idea or preception of what vision is. How could he see colors if his mind cant identify them as something? How could he see a pattern if its something completely strange to him.

Since his mind doesnt know what vision is he may precieve things as visions when they arent. How could he describe what he saw, "it looked like a triangle"....oh wait hes never seen a triangle.....

This question is messing with my mind!
Fd


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Fd3000 is really a brown dancing monster. He uses the info he gets from his crazy dreams to help those in need. Too bad he doesn't really exist...

"I could walk up to the president and blow smoke in his stupid monkey face and all he could do is stand there grooving on it" - Homer Simpson

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